# Science Fiction Erotica **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 3, 2013, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-fiction-erotica/670283 "2013-10-03T18:20:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![agnesnitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d78d45/32.png) [@agnesnitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agnesnitt)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-fiction-erotica/670283/21 "2013-10-04T02:25:57Z")
Back in the 70’s I was in a respectable convenience store near my college. This was during pretty much the height of Star Trek popularity. I passed by a book rack and my brain registered a cover of a book with Star Trek themes. I picked it up and _glanced_ inside, then nearly threw it across the store. I don’t know the scifi value of the book, but darn it had the porn side of it cold. I think the title was Starship Sexterprise. And yes you can read that as Starship Enterprise if you’re not paying close attention and aren’t expecting it. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-fiction-erotica/670283/22 "2013-10-04T04:12:19Z")
Phil Foglio has a series of comics called Xenophile, which are graphic stories with a fantasy/SF component. Sometimes the SF/fantasy element is very slight indeed. I have several collections, and I enjoy them very much. So does my husband. ---
**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-fiction-erotica/670283/23 "2013-10-04T10:23:04Z")
I remember a SF novel, Dream Games what was very sexual. > **[Dream Games: Hansen, Karl: 9780441166916: Amazon.com: Books](https://www.amazon.com/Dream-Games-Karl-Hansen/dp/0441166911)** > > Dream Games \[Hansen, Karl\] on Amazon.com. \*FREE\* shipping on qualifying offers. Dream Games ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-fiction-erotica/670283/24 "2013-10-04T11:29:36Z")
> [@Icerigger](#): > > I remember a SF novel, Dream Games what was very sexual. > > [Dream Games: Hansen, Karl: 9780441166916: Amazon.com: Books](http://www.amazon.com/Dream-Games-Karl-Hansen/dp/0441166911) Ah, yes. I actually own that book and the novel written before it; _War Games._ Apparently that’s all the guy wrote, leaving the series hanging. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-fiction-erotica/670283/25 "2013-10-04T12:58:43Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > Phil Foglio has a series of comics called Xenophile, which are graphic stories with a fantasy/SF component. Sometimes the SF/fantasy element is very slight indeed. I have several collections, and I enjoy them very much. So does my husband. The title is spelled with a triple “X” ( **xXxenophile** , and I love them. They’re graphic and explicit and cleverly funny, and they’re science fiction or fantasy, or at least tend that way (one of my favorites is about a supposed time traveller emerging naked from a closet, a la Anrold in _the Terminator_, and telling the woman he encounters that he’s from the future, where there are no more women. He explains this while truing to figure out what everything i the 20th century room is, a sequence filled with quirky humor and unexplored tossed off bits (he whispers to the cat “Your secret is safe with me” and the cat thinks “He knows!”) When he finally gets to the point, saying “Great! do you know where we can find some women?” the woman rips her shirt open to reveal her breasts and says “Idiot, _I_ am a woman!” Much penis ensues. It’s all revealed to be a sex game between two ordinary modern-day people. It leads intio another sf-themed sex role-play game. ) The covers showed Foglio’s humor, too. The first issue has a woman of Asian ancestry naked in bed, except for strategically placed paper buildings, while a man gets dressed in a Godzilla suit. My favorite hasc a couple in bed, clearly about to achieve orgasm, but they have been interrupted by afigure at the door. It’s a short figure of the Grim Reaper, holding a scythe, but less than threatening because of his two-foot height. It’s clearly _Le Petit Mort_. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-fiction-erotica/670283/26 "2013-10-04T16:06:21Z")
I’ve never actually seen any of Foglio’s xXxenophile comics, but their existence gives me hope that eventually, he’s going to take the Agatha Heterodyne fanservice just a little over the line. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-fiction-erotica/670283/27 "2013-10-04T18:24:34Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > The title is spelled with a triple “X” ( **xXxenophile** , and I love them. They’re graphic and explicit and cleverly funny, and they’re science fiction or fantasy, or at least tend that way (one of my favorites is about a supposed time traveller emerging naked from a closet, a la Anrold in _the Terminator_, and telling the woman he encounters that he’s from the future, where there are no more women. He explains this while truing to figure out what everything i the 20th century room is, a sequence filled with quirky humor and unexplored tossed off bits (he whispers to the cat “Your secret is safe with me” and the cat thinks “He knows!”) When he finally gets to the point, saying “Great! do you know where we can find some women?” the woman rips her shirt open to reveal her breasts and says “Idiot, _I_ am a woman!” Much penis ensues. It’s all revealed to be a sex game between two ordinary modern-day people. It leads intio another sf-themed sex role-play game. ) > The covers showed Foglio’s humor, too. The first issue has a woman of Asian ancestry naked in bed, except for strategically placed paper buildings, while a man gets dressed in a Godzilla suit. My favorite hasc a couple in bed, clearly about to achieve orgasm, but they have been interrupted by afigure at the door. It’s a short figure of the Grim Reaper, holding a scythe, but less than threatening because of his two-foot height. It’s clearly _Le Petit Mort_. Yeah, you’re right about the name, I should have checked it. I think that having the cat think “He knows!” puts it squarely into SF territory, and most of the rest of that particular story is set in the current world and time. I particularly like the fact that all the participants show enthusiastic consent. In at least a couple of cases, a man essentially declares that he’s not interested in playing unless he’s asked nicely. I also like the way that many of the stories are of people who have known each other for a while, and who want to start adding sex to the relationship. Of course, there are also the random horny strangers meeting each other stories, as well. About the only quibble I have is that there’s too many lesbian sequences. That just doesn’t do it for me. However, apparently there’s a big demand for lesbian stories, so that’s part of what he produced. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-fiction-erotica/670283/28 "2013-10-04T19:33:53Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > The MIT Science Fiction Society (MITSFS) has long had a collection of SF erotica. (In my yearbook they used a photo of the collection to represent their club). It’s kept under lock and key, and I think they lie about its existence to most people. I don’t mean the stuff by Philip Jose Farmer or Cecilia Tan. THAT stuff is downright respectable, by comparison. > > These are the books that are written under pseudonyms and never seem to show up in the SF sections of any bookstores. I’ve seen such stuff over the years. Define long. We didn’t have that when I was LibCom. Though I think I know the stuff of which you speak. In the early '80s one porn publisher had an sf series - one of which I even saw in Newark Airport. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-fiction-erotica/670283/29 "2013-10-04T19:48:31Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > Phil Foglio has a series of comics called Xenophile, which are graphic stories with a fantasy/SF component. Sometimes the SF/fantasy element is very slight indeed. I have several collections, and I enjoy them very much. So does my husband. > [@CalMeacham](#): > > The title is spelled with a triple “X” ( **xXxenophile** , and I love them. They’re graphic and explicit and cleverly funny, and they’re science fiction or fantasy, or at least tend that way (one of my favorites is about a supposed time traveller emerging naked from a closet, a la Anrold in _the Terminator_, and telling the woman he encounters that he’s from the future, where there are no more women. He explains this while truing to figure out what everything i the 20th century room is, a sequence filled with quirky humor and unexplored tossed off bits (he whispers to the cat “Your secret is safe with me” and the cat thinks “He knows!”) When he finally gets to the point, saying “Great! do you know where we can find some women?” the woman rips her shirt open to reveal her breasts and says “Idiot, _I_ am a woman!” Much penis ensues. It’s all revealed to be a sex game between two ordinary modern-day people. It leads into another sf-themed sex role-play game. ) There was the story about the couple who are Earth’s ambassadors to an alien world. The woman starts seducing the man while he’s in a meeting with some aliens. The chief alien representative, who resembles a turnip, is oblivious the the fact the two humans are having sex and keeps talking to them about trade issues. The punchline was after the meeting the chief alien is berating his two assistants because they were having their version of sex in front of the human couple who were equally oblivious. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-fiction-erotica/670283/30 "2013-10-04T19:50:49Z")
[Saturday Night on Antarius](http://www.farleftside.com/extras/subitzky.html) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-fiction-erotica/670283/31 "2013-10-05T02:48:21Z")
> [@](#): > > Quoth **Voyager** : > > Define long. Oh, about 9 or 10 inches. ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-fiction-erotica/670283/32 "2013-10-05T02:58:46Z")
I have a copy of _[The Day the Universe Came](http://www.biblio.com/ray-kalnen/the-day-the-universe-came~47424923~title)_, which is certainly one of the odder stories I’ve read. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-fiction-erotica/670283/33 "2013-10-05T03:24:05Z")
It seems half the stories on [storiesonline.net](http://storiesonline.net) are (dreadful) science fiction, chock filled with Mary Sue stories where the 18 year old protagonist acquires limitless power from aliens and proceeds to build a huge and boring harem. But there are some very worthwhile stories, and I’d love to share them. What are the rules about linking to _written_ erotica? Does the two click rule apply? ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-fiction-erotica/670283/34 "2013-10-05T05:22:41Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Oh, about 9 or 10 inches. Haven’t seen much porn, have you? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-fiction-erotica/670283/35 "2013-10-05T08:03:17Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > Haven’t seen much porn, have you? 😛 😃 Reference the OP: _Gor_ is by no means explicit in the main, though, for all the undercurrent of female slavery (much more than 95% of Gor’s women are free, at that). IIRC – and I’m pretty damn thorough – the word “vagina” is mentioned just once in the first 25 books or so, and while he might have spiced things up a bit with the more recent releases, I doubt it. If you want to whack off to Gor you pretty much have to read it and then go make up stuff in your own head, although as I understand it there is a wide fanbase that does exactly that, up to and including constructing a lifestyle around it. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-fiction-erotica/670283/36 "2013-10-05T14:28:40Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > 😃 > > Reference the OP: _Gor_ is by no means explicit in the main, though, for all the undercurrent of female slavery (much more than 95% of Gor’s women are free, at that). IIRC – and I’m pretty damn thorough – the word “vagina” is mentioned just once in the first 25 books or so, and while he might have spiced things up a bit with the more recent releases, I doubt it. If you want to whack off to Gor you pretty much have to read it and then go make up stuff in your own head, although as I understand it there is a wide fanbase that does exactly that, up to and including constructing a lifestyle around it. As best exemplified on Second Life Gor, where people do pretty much exactly as you say, then live the life of one of the characters. Let me introduce you to Second Life Gor, particularly the section on sexual roleplay in SL Gor, which is NSFW and also the best gaming evah!: [general introduction to SL Gor](http://www.bondagerotica.com/articles/second-life-gor/introduction-to-second-life-gor.html) [sexual RP in SL Gor](http://www.bondagerotica.com/articles/second-life-gor/sexual-roleplay-in-Second-Life-Gor.html) SL Gor puts most SF erotica in perspective. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-fiction-erotica/670283/37 "2013-10-05T19:44:26Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > As best exemplified on Second Life Gor, where people do pretty much exactly as you say, then live the life of one of the characters. Let me introduce you to Second Life Gor, particularly the section on sexual roleplay in SL Gor, which is NSFW and also the best gaming evah!: > > [general introduction to SL Gor](http://www.bondagerotica.com/articles/second-life-gor/introduction-to-second-life-gor.html) > > [sexual RP in SL Gor](http://www.bondagerotica.com/articles/second-life-gor/sexual-roleplay-in-Second-Life-Gor.html) > > SL Gor puts most SF erotica in perspective. Assuredly. But I have also known via the Internet a number of people who make it their _first_ life, never mind acting out on-line. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-fiction-erotica/670283/38 "2013-10-05T21:28:28Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > 😃 > > Reference the OP: _Gor_ is by no means explicit in the main, though, for all the undercurrent of female slavery (much more than 95% of Gor’s women are free, at that). IIRC – and I’m pretty damn thorough – the word “vagina” is mentioned just once in the first 25 books or so, and while he might have spiced things up a bit with the more recent releases, I doubt it. If you want to whack off to Gor you pretty much have to read it and then go make up stuff in your own head, although as I understand it there is a wide fanbase that does exactly that, up to and including constructing a lifestyle around it. BTW Norman has a book called “Imaginative Sex” published by Daw, which gives hints on Gor-like role playing with lots of scenarios and even costume suggestions. Gor stuff doesn’t do it for me, and I got fed up with the series after book four or five (and me being fed up and not collecting means I really don’t like it.) Somewhere early in the “Alan Burt Akers” Scorpio series they mention a country called Gah really into slavery, which so pissed the other nations off that they obliterated it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-fiction-erotica/670283.md?page=1)