# Science says Incels are right about everything. What happens next? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 26, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677 "2019-07-26T18:11:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TheFuture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@TheFuture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheFuture)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/1 "2019-07-26T18:11:27Z")
> **[Scientific Blackpill](https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill)** Where do we go from here? ---
**Author:** ![Unreconstructed\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/76d3ee/32.png) [@Unreconstructed\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unreconstructed_Man)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/2 "2019-07-26T18:14:24Z")
Cool! A new wiki to “improve” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/3 "2019-07-26T18:16:49Z")
I’m not seeing a debate but I bet we can get to the Pit pretty quickly. Good luck. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/4 "2019-07-26T18:17:19Z")
…Wow. They really put a lot of research/effort into it. But, like the other thread, these incels/MRAs aren’t \*\*\*scientifically \*\*\*wrong. It’s just a matter of whether they can win society over, and so far they have a tough uphill slog. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/5 "2019-07-26T18:26:17Z")
The Dude has some appropriate words for this situation: > [@TheDude](#): > > You’re not wrong, Walter. You’re just an asshole. Of course, these clowns aren’t right, either, but whatevs. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/6 "2019-07-26T18:30:37Z")
On a related note: 2+2 now equals 5. Where do we go from here? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/7 "2019-07-26T18:46:13Z")
You made me feel dirty clicking that link, but that’s largely my fault for not looking at it first. The chances of them being right about everything is roughly equal to the chance that I’ll suddenly sprout wings and be able to fly. Excuse me while I run every virus scanner I own. ---
**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/8 "2019-07-26T18:47:22Z")
Science says nothing of the sort. Incel-ism is not a scientific system of thought, and the scientific claims it makes are mostly false. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/9 "2019-07-26T18:49:39Z")
> [@TheFuture](#): > > [Scientific Blackpill - Incel Wiki](https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill) > > Where do we go from here? We? There’s no “we”. “I” am going to laugh my ass off. “You” should get some professional mental help. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/10 "2019-07-26T18:55:26Z")
> [@TheFuture](#): > > Where do we go from here? Hold on, lemme check the register… Hmmm… says here you now get to eat a whole bag of dicks. Hey, don’t look at me pal, I don’t make the rules. Shall I fetch you a bag, then ; or did you bring your own ? ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/11 "2019-07-26T18:56:54Z")
> [@DrCube](#): > > Science says nothing of the sort. Incel-ism is not a scientific system of thought, and the scientific claims it makes are mostly false. Now, be reasonable. They’re right about a few things. Men exist Women exist Sometimes women and men have sex Just not with THEM ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/12 "2019-07-26T19:16:08Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > We? There’s no “we”. “I” am going to laugh my ass off. “You” should get some professional mental help. [/thread] ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/13 "2019-07-26T19:19:38Z")
> [@TheFuture](#): > > [Scientific Blackpill - Incel Wiki](https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill) > > Where do we go from here? We all go to the optometrist to get all of our eyes de-rolled. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/14 "2019-07-26T19:22:41Z")
I was unfamiliar with the whole Black Pill thing, so I went to wikipedia; \*The “black pill” is a set of beliefs that are commonly held amongst members of incel communities, such as biological determinism, fatalism, and defeatism for unattractive people. Someone who believes in the black pill is referred to as “blackpilled”. The black pill has been described by Vox correspondent Zack Beauchamp as " **a profoundly sexist ideology that … amounts to a fundamental rejection of women’s sexual emancipation, labeling women shallow, cruel creatures who will choose only the most attractive men if given the choice."** \* Sounds like an extremely unhealthy attitude to have about life and other humans. Besides being laughably incorrect. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/15 "2019-07-26T19:22:53Z")
**TheFuture** is looking rather dim. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/16 "2019-07-26T19:30:14Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Now, be reasonable. They’re right about a few things. > > Men exist > Women exist > Sometimes women and men have sex > Just not with THEM There _are_ actually women name Stacy, and there actually used to be at least a couple of men named Chad. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/17 "2019-07-26T19:32:32Z")
Well, at the very least, we know they’re not procreating. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/18 "2019-07-26T19:44:03Z")
The sources themselves are perfectly solid. Sources that were cited: \*\* University of Richmond Pew Social Trends National Center for Biotechnology Information (NCBI) SAGE Journal Research Gate National Bureau of Economic Research Bureau of Justice Statistics Research Direct Journal of the American Academy of Child & Adolescent Psychiatry BBC University of Chicago Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences Stanford University \*\* If we weren’t discussing incel-dom, but rather, some other psychological topic such as adolescent education or drug addiction, most Dopers would accept such sources without a second thought. IOW, the reason the sources are being rejected is not because of the sources themselves, but because of the incels citing them. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/19 "2019-07-26T19:47:01Z")
It’s often amazing how some men will insist that they’re not getting laid because they’re not physically attractive, yet at the same time, make zero attempt to get laid with women who are not physically attractive, because somehow, those women aren’t good enough. If you take the attitude of “I can’t get model/playmate quality women to sleep with me, then the problem lies in those women, not me, and no woman wants me” is pretty goddamned stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/20 "2019-07-26T19:47:34Z")
So the incels made a wiki to justify their ‘need’ for 12 year old virgins to fuck and discard. Thinking…no. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677.md?page=2)