# Science says Incels are right about everything. What happens next?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 26, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677 "2019-07-26T18:11:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/544 "2019-08-07T19:33:44Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Were there at least 6 centurions commanding 100 soldiers each in this “cohort”?
> 
> Who fucking says _cohort_ in this context? JFC. Get over yourself.
> 
> I’m about to compile a fucking list of why I hate you.

Yeah, I think the answer to “Who fucking says cohort in this context?” is “pretty much every graduate student in the country”. It’s completely standard usage in academic circles.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/545 "2019-08-07T19:41:45Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Were there at least 6 centurions commanding 100 soldiers each in this “cohort”?
> 
> Who fucking says _cohort_ in this context? JFC. Get over yourself.
> 
> I’m about to compile a fucking list of why I hate you.

Wiktionary (relevant definitions in boldface) [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cohort:](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cohort:)

> [@](#):
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> cohort (plural cohorts)
> 
> 1. A group of people supporting the same thing or person.
> 
> **2. (statistics) A demographic grouping of people, especially those in a defined age group, or having a common characteristic.**
> 
> _The 18-24 cohort shows a sharp increase in automobile fatalities over the proximate age groupings._
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> 1. (historical, Ancient Rome, military) Any division of a Roman legion, normally of about 500 men.
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> _Three cohorts of men were assigned to the region._
> 
> 1. An accomplice; abettor; associate.
> 
> \*He was able to plea down his sentence by revealing the names of three of his cohorts, as well as the source of the information.  
> \*
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> 1. Any band or body of warriors.
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> 2. (taxonomy) A natural group of orders of organisms, less comprehensive than a class.
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> **7. A colleague.**
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> \*\*8. A set of individuals in a program, especially when compared to previous sets of individuals within the same program.  
> \*\*
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> _The students in my cohort for my organic chemistry class this year are not up to snuff. Last year’s cohort scored much higher averages on the mid-term._

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/546 "2019-08-07T19:55:15Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> You can search through my Twitter history and find me arguing with feminists. A few of them, including at least a couple semifamous ones, have me blocked because they can’t handle polite but probing pushback (what they would call “walrusing” ). [. .]
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> And as I keep explaining, .

At which point I burst out laughing.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/547 "2019-08-07T20:43:40Z")

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He had me just at “[walrusing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning)”

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/548 "2019-08-07T20:56:22Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Now, be reasonable. They’re right about a few things.
> 
> Men exist  
> Women exist  
> Sometimes women and men have sex  
> Just not with THEM

roflmao

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/549 "2019-08-07T20:57:26Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> Well, at the very least, we know they’re not procreating.

Good! 😃

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/550 "2019-08-07T21:00:01Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> So, “insecure, creepy as fuck, whiny misogynistic sociopath”, was just edged out from a top 5 spot? Bummer.

rofl

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/551 "2019-08-07T21:04:42Z")

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> [@Thing\_Fish](#):
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> Yeah, I think the answer to “Who fucking says cohort in this context?” is “pretty much every graduate student in the country”. It’s completely standard usage in academic circles.

Thank you.

> [@MrDibble](#):
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> He had me just at “[walrusing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning)”

Oops, you got me! :smack: Wrong pinniped.

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**Author:** ![Trafalgar\_Laura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trafalgar_laura/32/2907_2.png) [@Trafalgar\_Laura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trafalgar_Laura)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/552 "2019-08-08T16:02:32Z")

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Is there some pithy term for when people conclude that an online debate stopped abruptly because they were just \*so \*right, not because other people got too bored or annoyed to keep engaging with them? There really should be.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/553 "2019-08-08T16:24:26Z")

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> [@Trafalgar\_Laura](#):
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> Is there some pithy term for when people conclude that an online debate stopped abruptly because they were just \*so \*right, not because other people got too bored or annoyed to keep engaging with them? There really should be.

Delusional Asshole Fatigue Quota (DAFQ), pronounced: _“DA-FaQ?”_

I just made that up. Tell all your friends.

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/554 "2019-08-08T16:26:59Z")

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> [@Thing\_Fish](#):
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> Yeah, I think the answer to “Who fucking says cohort in this context?” is “pretty much every graduate student in the country”. It’s completely standard usage in academic circles.

Yep, my grad school (business) even had a Cohort MBA, which wasn’t some kind of degree in how to be a mercenary or anything.

Rather, it meant that those of us in the ‘cohort’ would all take our core courses together as a unit, and graduate together at the same time. It was an intense full time program, not the usual a-la-carte style that most degree programs are.

And this was 2002…

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/555 "2019-08-08T16:38:22Z")

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> [@Trafalgar\_Laura](#):
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> Is there some pithy term for when people conclude that an online debate stopped abruptly because they were just \*so \*right, not because other people got too bored or annoyed to keep engaging with them? There really should be.

Megalomania?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/556 "2019-08-08T16:39:23Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Wrong pinniped.

Ooh, we’re all impressed by your impressive vocabulary. Hey, everyone - check out the big brain on **Slack**!

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/557 "2019-08-08T18:44:45Z")

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Do you have a better, more earthy word to describe the reason a walrus and sea lion might get conflated?

I remember when this was the last place on Earth one would ever expect to get jumped on for using an accurate piece of scientific terminology for which there is no simpler substitute.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/558 "2019-08-08T18:48:49Z")

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Incel must mean something other than what I think it does.

I thought incel was short for involuntary celibate and people used it to say “haha, noone wants to fuck you, even though you desperately want to get laid”

Which I always thought was pretty childish put down considering almost every high school freshman and sophomore would meet this description.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/559 "2019-08-08T20:09:22Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Incel must mean something other than what I think it does.
> 
> I thought incel was short for involuntary celibate and people used it to say “haha, noone wants to fuck you, even though you desperately want to get laid”
> 
> Which I always thought was pretty childish put down considering almost every high school freshman and sophomore would meet this description.

Every high school freshman and sophomore wants to drive. Nobody thinks, “HaHa, no one will give you a car because you don’t have a license even though you desperately want to drive!”.

So when people talk about incels, high school freshmen and sophomores are not a population that instantly comes to mind.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/560 "2019-08-08T20:17:30Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Do you have a better, more earthy word to describe the reason a walrus and sea lion might get conflated?

Yes: “stupid” about covers the reason.

> [@](#):
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> I remember when this was the last place on Earth one would ever expect to get jumped on for using an accurate piece of scientific terminology for which there is no simpler substitute.

“This” “place” being the fucking Pit, mate. Take your “pinnipeds” to GQ. Or better yet, shove it.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/561 "2019-08-08T20:23:11Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Yes: “stupid” about covers the reason.  
> “This” “place” being the fucking Pit, mate. Take your “pinnipeds” to GQ. Or better yet, shove it.

…and make room for a “cohort”.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/562 "2019-08-08T20:26:32Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Incel must mean something other than what I think it does.

Try reading the thread.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/science-says-incels-are-right-about-everything-what-happens-next/837677/563 "2019-08-08T20:43:17Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> …and make room for a “cohort”.

Aggressive anti-intellectualism, nice. Sarah Palin would be proud. :rolleyes:

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