# Scooter Libby: bestiality pedophilia sicko

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 4, 2005, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552 "2005-11-04T21:20:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/1 "2005-11-04T21:20:39Z")

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Not really a pitting, but this is just too _ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww_ for the other SDMB forums…

Admist all of the Valerie Plame/perjury/Treasongate bruhaha, [_The New Yorker_](http://www.newyorker.com/talk/content/articles/051107ta_talk_collins) dives into “Scooter” Libby’s twenty-year opus, “The Apprentice”, and gives us a look into what turns Libby’s crank:

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> Like his [conservative erotica] predecessors, Libby does not shy from the scatological. The narrative makes generous mention of lice, snot, drunkenness, bad breath, torture, urine, “turds,” armpits, arm hair, neck hair, pubic hair, pus, boils, and blood (regular and menstrual). One passage goes, “At length he walked around to the deer’s head and, reaching into his pants, struggled for a moment and then pulled out his penis. He began to piss in the snow just in front of the deer’s nostrils.”
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> Homoeroticism and incest also figure as themes. The main female character, Yukiko, draws hair on the “mound” of a little girl. The brothers of a dead samurai have sex with his daughter. Many things glisten (mouths, hair, evergreens), quiver (a “pink underlip,” arm muscles, legs), and are sniffed (floorboards, sheets, fingers).

But this excerpt is something else:

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> At age ten the madam put the child [prostitute] in a cage with a bear trained to couple with young girls so the girls would be frigid and not fall in love with their patrons. They fed her through the bars and aroused the bear with a stick when it seemed to lose interest.

Ten-year-old-girls _caged_ and **raped by bears???**  
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

I think we’ve got a new winner for the [Bill O’Reilly Bad Sex Writing Contest](http://archive.salon.com/sex/feature/2004/01/14/bad_writing/index_np.html)…

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/2 "2005-11-04T21:21:10Z")

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This can’t be real. Tell me it’s not real.

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**Author:** ![velvetjones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/5f9b8f/32.png) [@velvetjones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velvetjones)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/3 "2005-11-04T21:33:50Z")

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Wow, that is some seriously weird shit. Just not enought :eek: to really say how incredibly icky that is.

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**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/4 "2005-11-04T21:35:08Z")

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If he wrote a novel with a murder, does that also reflect personally on him? I like piling on as much as the next guy, but fiction is called that for a reason.

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**Author:** ![threemae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@threemae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threemae)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/5 "2005-11-04T21:38:40Z")

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Although I have to say, I couldn’t stop laughing at the New Yorker’s coverage of some of it:

"  
And, finally:

‘He asked if they should fuck the deer.’

The answer, reader, is yes.  
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**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/6 "2005-11-04T21:46:13Z")

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> [@SmackFu](#):
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> If he wrote a novel with a murder, does that also reflect personally on him? I like piling on as much as the next guy, but fiction is called that for a reason.

If it was an especially perverse novel about murder, yes I do think that reflects personally on him.

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**Author:** ![cowgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@cowgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cowgirl)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/7 "2005-11-04T21:48:51Z")

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> [@Kythereia](#):
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> This can’t be real. Tell me it’s not real.

I’m with you, **Kythereia**.

Some of us Canadians are confused. Can you please elaborate on

> [@The New Yorker](#):
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> the long and distinguished annals of the right-wing dirty novel

?

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/8 "2005-11-04T21:51:45Z")

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What a perfectly grizzly passage.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/9 "2005-11-04T21:55:34Z")

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A Kodiak moment.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/10 "2005-11-04T21:55:46Z")

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My god - the horrors . . . _arm hair_. That one’s gonna haunt me dreams.

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**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/11 "2005-11-04T22:00:06Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> What a perfectly grizzly passage.

Certain segments of the population like [bears](http://gaylife.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=gaylife&zu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.resourcesforbears.com%2Ffaq%2F).

Sorry, idea and link stolen from friend \*\*Sampiro’s \*\* [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=329464).

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**Author:** ![gazpacho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6f9a4e/32.png) [@gazpacho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gazpacho)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/12 "2005-11-04T22:09:00Z")

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> [@Silentgoldfish](#):
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> If it was an especially perverse novel about murder, yes I do think that reflects personally on him.

Just more examples of the US being prude. Violence is OK but sex is right out.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/13 "2005-11-04T22:10:26Z")

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> [@cowgirl](#):
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> Some of us Canadians are confused. Can you please elaborate on [the right wing dirty novel]

A number of conservative politicians and commentators, such as Lynne Cheney, Newt Gingrich, and Bill O’Reilly, have also written novels, some of which have fairly graphich and erotic sex scenes.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/14 "2005-11-04T22:10:33Z")

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> [@cowgirl](#):
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> Some of us Canadians are confused. Can you please elaborate on [the right wing dirty novel]

A number of conservative politicians and commentators, such as Lynne Cheney, Newt Gingrich, and Bill O’Reilly, have also written novels, some of which have fairly graphic and erotic sex scenes.

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**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/15 "2005-11-04T22:13:16Z")

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Who knew? And here all this time, I thought Republicans were against sex, other than procreative man-on-top-get-it-over-with-quick.

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**Author:** ![Malodorous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47774/32.png) [@Malodorous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malodorous)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/16 "2005-11-04T22:13:36Z")

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Is this published? The article doesn’t give a lot of details about what the text acutally is.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/17 "2005-11-04T22:16:32Z")

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> [@Maureen](#):
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> Who knew? And here all this time, I thought Republicans were against sex, other than procreative man-on-top-get-it-over-with-quick.

Oh really? Did you read that in our platform somewhere?

You know there’s lots of Republicans that aren’t even Christian? Just in case you’re trying to make some veiled religious stab on the whole “sex is only for procreation thing.” And of course until recent years Catholics were traditionally Democrats.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/18 "2005-11-04T22:17:26Z")

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> [@Captain Amazing](#):
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> …some of which have fairly graphic and erotic sex scenes.

[Jon Stewart] Graphic, yes. Erotic? Ehhh, not so much. [/JS]

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Lance_Murdoch)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/19 "2005-11-04T22:17:35Z")

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Maybe his next glistening, quivering tome will be called “Prison Bitch.”

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**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/20 "2005-11-04T22:20:07Z")

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> [@Martin Hyde](#):
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> Oh really? Did you read that in our platform somewhere?
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> You know there’s lots of Republicans that aren’t even Christian? Just in case you’re trying to make some veiled religious stab on the whole “sex is only for procreation thing.” And of course until recent years Catholics were traditionally Democrats.

No, it was pretty much the whole outlawing sex toys and sodomy and (in some places) oral sex thing in predominantly red states that gave me that impression. Well. That and trying to take away women’s procreative choices.

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