# Scooter Libby: bestiality pedophilia sicko **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 4, 2005, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552 "2005-11-04T21:20:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/41 "2005-11-04T23:35:06Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > So Stephen King needs to be locked up, also? No, but I sure as hell wouldn’t want to have dinner with the guy! From all accounts he’s a bit of an asshole in real life anyway, so I don’t think I’d miss much. And gaspacho? Check my location field, idiot. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/42 "2005-11-04T23:35:12Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Boy, talk about a strawman. > > Even folks that believe sex should be restricted to marriage do not insist that it be procreative only. I’m unaware of ANY major religious or political group that holds that view This is a whoosh, right? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/43 "2005-11-04T23:36:59Z")
> [@SmackFu](#): > > If he wrote a novel with a murder, does that also reflect personally on him? I like piling on as much as the next guy, but fiction is called that for a reason. Shhhh. \*\*rjung \*\*doesn’t know about reality-- he operates exclusively in the realm of fiction. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/44 "2005-11-04T23:37:39Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Doesn’t the Catholic Church think that? Nah, they think that every act of sex should be open to the possibility of procreation. So a married couple can have all the sex they want as long as they don’t use birth control, other than having sex when no ovum is present. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/45 "2005-11-04T23:38:07Z")
[Amazon](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=books&field-author=Libby%2C%20Lewis/002-6587108-6708034) > [@](#): > > ``` > The Apprentice > > ``` > > by Lewis Libby > Avg. Customer Rating: 3.5 out of 5 stars > (Rate this item) > Other Editions: Hardcover | Paperback > Usually ships within 1-2 business days > Used & new from $975.00 PROFIT! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/46 "2005-11-04T23:55:10Z")
The pricing typo doesn’t scare me nearly so much as the average customer rating. 3.5 stars? Who’s reading this stuff? ---
**Author:** ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2005, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/47 "2005-11-05T00:00:35Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > Even after 2042 dead? That’s pretty hard core support. This is such a non sequitor that I really hope I’m being wooshed. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2005, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/48 "2005-11-05T00:27:21Z")
> [@Maureen](#): > > The pricing typo doesn’t scare me nearly so much as the average customer rating. 3.5 stars? Who’s reading this stuff? [@](http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/offer-listing/1555972454/ref=dp_olp_2//002-6502159-7732021?condition=all) Even scarier that it don’t appear to be a typo! Note to self; write bad book, then get indicted, indictment = book sales! ---
**Author:** ![tremorviolet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@tremorviolet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tremorviolet)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2005, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/49 "2005-11-05T00:29:45Z")
> [@Maureen](#): > > The pricing typo doesn’t scare me nearly so much as the average customer rating. 3.5 stars? Who’s reading this stuff? That’s not a typo, it’s what the cheapest copy is going for. The priciest has an inscription from Scooter himself and goes for $2400. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2005, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/50 "2005-11-05T00:32:07Z")
> [@Metacom](#): > > This is such a non sequitor that I really hope I’m being wooshed. I suspect it goes like this: you post something about not caring about a work of fiction. **Squink** makes the connection “work of fiction” is same as “what turned out to be work of fiction leading us to war w/Iraq”. then, you don’t get it. I could be wrong about the diagram. ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2005, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/51 "2005-11-05T00:32:28Z")
That’s un_real_. I guess a first edition is a first edition, no matter what the content. Remind me, **Breakdancing Duck**. Was Bret Easton Ellis ever Chief of Staff to the Vice President of the United States? Did his party platform speak loudly of morality in regards to sexuality? Just wondering. ---
**Author:** ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2005, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/52 "2005-11-05T00:36:15Z")
> [@wring](#): > > you post something about not caring about a work of fiction. > **Squink** makes the connection “work of fiction” is same as “what turned out to be work of fiction leading us to war w/Iraq”. > > then, you don’t get it. That makes sense, although I still think **Squink** ’s comment was very stupid. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2005, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/53 "2005-11-05T00:42:46Z")
> [@Maureen](#): > > The pricing typo doesn’t scare me nearly so much as the average customer rating. 3.5 stars? Who’s reading this stuff? Well, to be fair, the back cover (which you can view on the Amazon website) has a pretty complimentary blurb from the _New York Times Book Review_. It says: > [@](#): > > With delicate prose and stirring descriptive passages, Lewis Libby elevates a youth’s narrative to the level of myth…[his] storytelling neatly mixes conspiratorial murmurs with a boy’s emotional turmoil. It seems that, at the very least, the literary quality of Libby’s work is open to reasonable debate and interpretation, and that this is not a book that one should merely dismiss out of hand, especially without reading the whole thing. > [@Breakdancing Duck](#): > > Those of you bleating and screaming about how outrageous this is are the biggest bunch of fucking hypocrites. > > Apparently it’s quite all right for Brett Easton Ellis to write American Psycho, which was much more violent/depraved/sexually explicit then Libby’s book, but if someone of Libby’s ilk writes a slightly off-kilter novel, then the fucking sky is falling. > > Yeah, that’s really fair. It’s not a question of whether the book is, in and of itself, a violent or sxually explicit work. It’s a question of moral consistency. If Brett Easton Ellis had written _American Psycho_ and then accepted a position as the VP’s Chief of Staff in a political party that was constantly criticizing the morally depravity of violent and sexually explicit pop culture, then i’d be interested in that too. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2005, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/54 "2005-11-05T00:45:25Z")
> [@Breakdancing Duck](#): > > Those of you bleating and screaming about how outrageous this is are the biggest bunch of fucking hypocrites. > > Apparently it’s quite all right for Brett Easton Ellis to write American Psycho, which was much more violent/depraved/sexually explicit then Libby’s book, but if someone of Libby’s ilk writes a slightly off-kilter novel, then the fucking sky is falling. > > Yeah, that’s really fair. Actually, the problem is the apparent hypocrisy of the so-called “Party of Family Values” employing, in a prominent, important position, someone who write ultra-violent rape porn. If the Republicans hadn’t taken high visibility stances against everything from video games to gay sex to Hollywood movies not starring Arnold Schwartzenegger or Bruce Willis, this whole thing would be a non-issue. It’s not the depravity of the novelist that’s at stake, it’s the shamelessly two-faced nature of his masters. The book itself is small potatoes. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2005, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/55 "2005-11-05T00:54:00Z")
> [@Breakdancing Duck](#): > > Those of you bleating and screaming about how outrageous this is are the biggest bunch of fucking hypocrites… Is it possible that you have confused “bleating and screaming” with rolling about on the floor and clutching our sides, while peals of helpless laughter tumble? But come: let us celebrate Republican eroticism! (The appropriate forum would be Cafe Soc, yes?) We have some of the most celebrated Googlemeisters in virtual space, lets ferret out these scenes and share them in a spirit of healthy and vigorous erotic fervor! (Personally, my tastes are somewhat narrow, and that’s nobody’s problem but mine. Nonetheless, I’d prefer not to start with Jeff Gannon, if that’s OK with everybody else. Newt Gangrene’s _1945_ has some “sex kitten” scenes in it, IIRC that could easily be used to reinforce celibacy!) Let the good clean fun begin! ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2005, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/56 "2005-11-05T01:27:22Z")
> [@Metacom](#): > > That makes sense, although I still think **Squink** ’s comment was very stupid. Sure, because people with power _never_ try to turn their fantasies into realities, do they? Everyone agreed that turning Iraq into a shining beacon of democracy was a reality based proposition. > [@elucidator](#): > > Let the good clean fun begin! Some brave scholar could even do a “compare and contrast” piece on the fantasies of important people in Cheney’s life. Remember Lynne Cheney’s novel “Sisters” from a few years ago? > [@](#): > > The women who embraced in the wagon were Adam and Eve crossing a dark cathedral stage – no, Eve and Eve, loving one another as they would not be able to once they ate of the fruit and knew themselves as they truly were. She felt curiously moved, curiously envious of them. She had never to this moment thought Eden a particularly attractive paradise, based as it was on naiveté, but she saw that the women in the cart had a passionate, loving intimacy forever closed to her. How strong it made them. What comfort it gave. [here](http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art19337.asp), [pdf through whitehouse. **org**](http://www.whitehouse.org/administration/sisters.asp) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2005, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/57 "2005-11-05T01:28:07Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > let us celebrate Republican eroticism! You lust for Ann Coulter is unseemly. How about spreading that **'luci** love around more-- can I interest you in Bay Buchanan? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2005, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/58 "2005-11-05T01:32:22Z")
Scooter can write whatever he wants to write. I can draw any conclusions I’d like based on whatever he wants to write. Nope, don’t see any hypocrisy there. Though I have to say, if conservatives are going to keep writing amateur porn, could they at least get some writing lessons so it won’t reek so much? > [@](#): > > “Then he slipped her panties down her legs and, within seconds, his tongue was inside her, moving rapidly.” > –_Those Who Trespass,_ Bill O’Reilly ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2005, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/59 "2005-11-05T01:32:30Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > You lust for Ann Coulter is unseemly. How about spreading that **'luci** love around more-- can I interest you in Bay Buchanan? :eek: But “Babs” Bush is _right out!_ :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2005, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552/60 "2005-11-05T01:39:10Z")
> [@rjung](#): > > Though I have to say, if conservatives are going to keep writing amateur porn, could they at least get some writing lessons so it won’t reek so much? > > > [@](#): > > > > “Then he slipped her panties down her legs and, within seconds, his tongue was inside her, moving rapidly.” > > –Those Who Trespass, Bill O’Reilly Ew. Ew. Ew. A description of oral sex and Bill O’Reilly should never, ever be involved in the same discussion. Must now scrub brain with bleach. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-bestiality-pedophilia-sicko/329552.md?page=4)