# Scooter Libby skates free **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 3, 2007, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-skates-free/410296 "2007-07-03T00:18:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-skates-free/410296/261 "2007-07-08T05:39:22Z")
[QUOTE=bob\_co] You be the national socialist, not me. Yours is the NAZI agenda. I know the difference but your are the one going for communism in the good old US. Joe McCarthy is grabbing you from the grave. He was right you know. [/QUOTE] Keep digging.. ---
**Author:** ![bob\_co](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b3f665/32.png) [@bob\_co](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_co)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-skates-free/410296/262 "2007-07-08T05:52:49Z")
So … when we boiled it all down to a fact that is still in dispute, you still froth at the mouth over the Bush adminstration? The political concepts are clear, you are the whiney bitch today and I will be tomorrow. Do you like it that way? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-skates-free/410296/263 "2007-07-08T06:01:02Z")
[QUOTE=bob\_co] So .. when we boiled it all down to a fact that is still in dispute, [/quote] Only in your mind peeps. > [@](#): > > you still froth at the mouth over the Bush administration? The political concepts are clear, you are the whiney bitch today and I will be tomorrow. Do you like it that way? Well yes, specially because I read that Joe McCarty was holding.. an actual laundry list when he made his famous retort of having in his hands a list of Communists in government, ain’t history neat? Those ISP’s on Neverland will like it too. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-skates-free/410296/264 "2007-07-08T06:12:15Z")
[QUOTE=bob\_co] you are the whiney bitch today and I will be tomorrow. [/QUOTE] Forgot to add: When **John Mace** , one of the few conservatives I respect, validates me I have nothing to whiney about, keep being left alone in Neverland you lexicon challenged, pretend that is a Libertarian, one. Heck, you can not even hold a candle to our own **Liberal** , that BTW **is** a libertarian. (Maybe you should ignore that last paragraph, your head could explode) ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-skates-free/410296/265 "2007-07-08T06:36:19Z")
[QUOTE=bob\_co] I know the difference but your are the one going for communism in the good old US. Joe McCarthy is grabbing you from the grave. He was right you know. [/QUOTE] > **[Finfacts: Irish business, finance news on economics](http://www.finfacts.com/)** > > Analyses and news on Irish, European and global business, finance and content on economics > [@](#): > > In his early years as a Senator, McCarthy had little impact. He drank heavily, gambled and acted as a paid lobbyist for a number of business corporations. Then as the 1952 election was drawing closer, he found a cause. The panic about communist success in Eastern Europe, the fall of Nationalist China and the Soviet atom bomb test following betrayal of American nuclear secrets, had set off a firestorm of national insecurity. Against that backdrop, McCarthy had seen how Congressman Richard Nixon had gained national prominence through the investigation of a charge of espionage against a State Department employee and on February 9, 1950 in Wheeling, West Virginia, McCarthy launched his crusade. **Waving his laundry list, he claimed to have the names of 205 known communists who were State Department employees. In the succeeding days as he continued a speaking tour, the number changed and as he was challenged to produce credible evidence in the remaining weeks of February, McCarthy could not name one current suspect employee in the State Department**. In a book on hoaxes, it was mentioned that a reporter did ask McCarthy much later what was that list and he told him it was his laundry list. We may debate if it was an actual laundry list, you know, the one that you use to get your clothes at the launderer (you need all the help with explanations, you see) or a laundry list in the sense of a mobster having a list of names to clean; but the fact is, He did lie, he did not have a list of names in the State Department. Likewise, the sources you mentioned have no compunction on lying to their readers, And that is because the readers are getting to read what they want. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-skates-free/410296/266 "2007-07-08T07:15:39Z")
Just one bit more to entertain what is left of your brain: IIRC **John Mace** has mentioned before that he supports libertarian ideals, so when he notices that you are indeed wet about Wilson you should ponder, once again this has little to do with ideology, what is important to learn is that your points are not supported by facts. And McCarthy is pinin’ for the fjords. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-skates-free/410296/267 "2007-07-08T17:51:28Z")
[QUOTE=bob\_co] Your request of me was that I place him in nigeria at the time and that the sales were happening, and I think I did. [/QUOTE] **Not** that the sales were happening, **bob** – a point on which you seem to respond with smoke and mirrors and froth and venom whenever cornered. A point on which the Admin itself has long, long since shut up, and it astonishes me to find that at this date, the lie still appears to be circulating in the RW blogosphere. Somewhere. I occasionally lurk on FR and, IME, nobody **there** seems to be so stubborn or brazen as to hold to **that** long-discredited canard. **Hussein was not seeking to acquire any uranium from Niger.** Wilson told the truth on that point, as was his duty. Wilson was punished. The same thing has happened to many dedicated professional civil servants under this Admin, and to many dedicated professional military officers, too. [Relevant editorial.](http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070709/hayes) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-skates-free/410296/268 "2007-07-08T18:10:53Z")
[QUOTE=bob\_co] I believe that the burden of proof here should be on the moonbats that Dick Cheney sent Joe Wilson to Niger. He in facct did not. [/QUOTE] [_sigh_] See, this is like Al Gore and the Internet. I cannot prove Al Gore invented the Internet – nor can you prove he ever claimed to have done so. He didn’t, and he never claimed it. He did take credit for the Internet’s invention, and quite properly, in the sense that, while a senator, he got Congress to fund its development. Yet we spent all of 2000 hearing Gore called a liar because he claimed to have invented the Internet. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-skates-free/410296/269 "2007-07-08T18:13:00Z")
[QUOTE=bob\_co] I think that i made my case for an argument that started yesterday in the face that my original point was that this was this all was a political tactic to drive the liberals to mouth frothiness. No one in this or future administrations will take the stand in the same way. [/QUOTE] No, **bob,** Bush did **not** commute Libby’s sentence to drive liberals crazy, and would roll his eyes if you suggested it to him. He did it to protect his own. And yes, many in this and future administrations **will** take the stand in court, I am quite certain. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-skates-free/410296/270 "2007-07-08T19:13:06Z")
Senior officials in the CPD div. in the CIA picked Joe Wilson for the inquiry. He was not suggested for the mission by his wife. In 1999 he was in another inquiry that his wife did recommend him. He was an ambassador in Africa and had contacts in Niger. He was the correct man for the mission. He contributed to the Bush campaign in 2000. He is not a Democrat .He may be becoming one now though. As any thinking man who cares about his country lying to him should. ---
**Author:** ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-skates-free/410296/271 "2007-07-08T20:03:13Z")
[QUOTE=bob\_co] Mob rules, or producers rule. Do you want an evironment friendly to the mob, or the producers? [/QUOTE] I know that other people are arguing this much better than me, but I had to jump in just to make a clarification. **bobby boy** , you mentioned wanting to play in GD and not the Pit. Piece of advice for you: if you throw around a blatant exclusion of the middle logical fallacy around, those folks will eat you for lunch. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-skates-free/410296/272 "2007-07-08T20:14:25Z")
A bit uncertain, what wine goes best with braised newbie? A nice chianti? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-skates-free/410296/273 "2007-07-08T21:55:25Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] A bit uncertain, what wine goes best with braised newbie? A nice chianti? [/QUOTE] Not bad, not bad at all. I’d recommend a Merlot when it’s prepared as shishkebab. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2007, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-skates-free/410296/274 "2007-07-09T00:46:52Z")
[QUOTE=bob\_co] In the mean time I will lick on those sweet sweet tears of sorrow. [/QUOTE] You might also want to read the labels on your pharmacy bottles more carefully. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scooter-libby-skates-free/410296.md?page=13)