# Scored four $2 notes with a very young Queen Elizabeth! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 12, 2018, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scored-four-2-notes-with-a-very-young-queen-elizabeth/812292 "2018-04-12T14:52:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scored-four-2-notes-with-a-very-young-queen-elizabeth/812292/21 "2018-04-17T17:50:35Z")
I wouldn’t want to confess to high treason. Gets uncomfortable. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scored-four-2-notes-with-a-very-young-queen-elizabeth/812292/22 "2018-04-17T19:10:58Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > I wouldn’t want to confess to high treason. Gets uncomfortable. 😉 Prince Phillip did it, and it worked out OK for him. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scored-four-2-notes-with-a-very-young-queen-elizabeth/812292/23 "2018-04-19T18:08:44Z")
> [@FloatyGimpy](#): > > I have a 1954 $1 with Elizabeth and a 1937 $50 with George. The $50 was mint until my dad folded it in half :smack: That’s definitely an “Ouch!” Almost worth a slap with a dead trout, but for filial piety. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scored-four-2-notes-with-a-very-young-queen-elizabeth/812292/24 "2018-04-19T20:45:14Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > That’s it! Sadly, not the devil face ones. Devil face? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scored-four-2-notes-with-a-very-young-queen-elizabeth/812292/25 "2018-04-19T22:10:48Z")
I thought Jefferson was on the $2 bill. 😉 > [@installLSC](#): > > [You mean these ones from 1954?](http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/32080/27641296_1.jpg?v=8D4D87AEA0AD230) Who knew young Queen Liz was such a knockout? In the day she was quite cute. ---
**Author:** ![Marlonius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@Marlonius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marlonius)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scored-four-2-notes-with-a-very-young-queen-elizabeth/812292/26 "2018-04-19T22:35:41Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Devil face? An unfortunate trick of the light from the original photo that was copied into the banknote portrait. About half way down this page. Once the God - fearing Canucks noticed, a new edition was minted and the briefly circulated “Devil’s Face” bills became more highly sought. [http://mtltimes.ca/Montreal/montreal-times-writers/michael-joffre/coin-collecting-devils-face-in-the-queen-elizabeth-ii-hair-in-canadas-paper-money/](http://mtltimes.ca/Montreal/montreal-times-writers/michael-joffre/coin-collecting-devils-face-in-the-queen-elizabeth-ii-hair-in-canadas-paper-money/) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scored-four-2-notes-with-a-very-young-queen-elizabeth/812292/27 "2018-04-20T01:39:25Z")
Interesting - never heard of that! Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scored-four-2-notes-with-a-very-young-queen-elizabeth/812292/28 "2018-04-20T04:04:53Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > I thought Jefferson was on the $2 bill. 😉 That’s only in the alternate history covered by Turtledove in _Guns of the North_, where Jefferson remained loyal to George III. He leads a large group of Loyalists north where they establish New Virginia on the northern shores of Lake Ontario. Rallying the New Virginians and Quebeckers, Jefferson defeats the invading Americans. King George appoints him Governor General of British North America. As the Founding Father of BNA, Jefferson today is commemorated on the currency issued by the Bank of BNA. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scored-four-2-notes-with-a-very-young-queen-elizabeth/812292/29 "2018-04-20T06:52:29Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > I don’t get the criticisms about notes changing over time. Change is normal in life, especially if a long-lasting status quo makes it easier for criminal activity to occur. If changing it up helps to deter counterfeits, why not? > > Plus, when you have a living Queen instead of dead presidents on your money, you do have to update it from time to time. 🙂 Then again, in your case, perhaps no more often than we update ours, if she keeps on keeping on the way she has been. QEII is now the longest ever reigning monarch you’ve ever had, isn’t she? ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scored-four-2-notes-with-a-very-young-queen-elizabeth/812292/30 "2018-04-20T06:59:27Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > I thought Jefferson was on the $2 bill. 😉 > In the day she was quite cute. I have a 1960 edition of the World Book Encyclopedia. Well, except for the “L” volume which has been missing since about 1961 and for all I know has been sitting atop a steeply gabled roof in Oslo, Norway for the past fifty-seven years. Anyway, I mention this because the WBE was clearly targeted towards Canadians as well as Americans, and accordingly there is a full page color photo of Elizabeth II in her coronation regalia accompanying the article about her. And she was indeed quite good looking, almost as if she were cast for the role in a film. In case anyone wonders, I didn’t lose the “L” book. I was three in 1961. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scored-four-2-notes-with-a-very-young-queen-elizabeth/812292/31 "2018-04-20T07:03:17Z")
> [@installLSC](#): > > I’ve often had the same thought. American dollars used to be so uniform and unchanging in appearence that anyone over the age of 2 knew what it was supposed to look like. Now currency changes so often and is so busy the average person doesn’t really know what a “normal” bill looks like. I had always liked the dramatic corner-on view of the Treasury building, including the cars, on the back of the old $10 bills. I was sorry to see that go. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scored-four-2-notes-with-a-very-young-queen-elizabeth/812292/32 "2018-04-20T07:06:23Z")
> [@Doctor\_Jackson](#): > > Prince Phillip did it, and it worked out OK for him. How did he commit treason? Do you mean against Greece and Denmark by the fact that he renounced the associated titles? ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scored-four-2-notes-with-a-very-young-queen-elizabeth/812292/33 "2018-04-20T12:38:17Z")
Doctor Jackson appears to be speculating about [pre-marital royal nookie](http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/blackstone_bk4ch6.asp): > [@Blackstone](#): > > THE second species of treason is, “if a man do violate “the king’s companion, or **the king’s eldest daughter unmarried** , or the wife of the king’s eldest son and heir.” By the king’s companion is meant his wife; and by violation is understood **carnal knowledge** , as well without force, as with it: and **this is high treason in both parties, if both be consenting** ; as some of the wives of Henry the eighth by fatal experience evinced. The plain intention of this law is to guard the blood royal from any suspicion of bastardy, whereby the succession to the crown might be rendered dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scored-four-2-notes-with-a-very-young-queen-elizabeth/812292/34 "2018-04-20T12:43:21Z")
> [@installLSC](#): > > [You mean these ones from 1954?](http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/32080/27641296_1.jpg?v=8D4D87AEA0AD230) Who knew young Queen Liz was such a knockout? A knockout or a shape shifting reptilian? I’m not seeing the knockout. Now Princess Dianna, there’s a knockout. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scored-four-2-notes-with-a-very-young-queen-elizabeth/812292/35 "2018-04-20T13:06:04Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Doctor Jackson appears to be speculating about [pre-marital royal nookie](http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/blackstone_bk4ch6.asp): Thanks, **NP** , that’s it exactly! I was tagging on to the exchange below: > [@Jacquernagy](#): > > Bah - if the word “four $2 notes” were absent from the subject, THAT would be something to brag about. > [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > I wouldn’t want to confess to high treason. Gets uncomfortable. 😉 A consequence of the US having such uniform currency is that the only real [collector’s market](http://usarare.com/)is for “error bills” - those that were misprinted in some way -, bills that are very old (like ~100 years) or those with an unusual serial number. Otherwise, the collector market here is coins. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scored-four-2-notes-with-a-very-young-queen-elizabeth/812292/36 "2018-04-20T13:57:45Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Doctor Jackson appears to be speculating about [pre-marital royal nookie](http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/blackstone_bk4ch6.asp): Right, sorry. I hadn’t been following the thread closely enough. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scored-four-2-notes-with-a-very-young-queen-elizabeth/812292/37 "2018-04-20T17:52:13Z")
> [@Jacquernagy](#): > > Bah - if the word “four $2 notes” were absent from the subject, THAT would be something to brag about. Not only that, but it would add a strangely surreal aspect to my post #15. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scored-four-2-notes-with-a-very-young-queen-elizabeth/812292/38 "2018-04-21T13:27:33Z")
> [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](#): > > Then again, in your case, perhaps no more often than we update ours, if she keeps on keeping on the way she has been. QEII is now the longest ever reigning monarch you’ve ever had, isn’t she? Sure, but we’ve updated regularly, and the portrait of Her Majesty has changed each time to reflect her age. [1954 Series: Canadian Landscapes](http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/32080/27641296_1.jpg?v=8D4D87AEA0AD230) [1969 Series: Scenes of Canada](https://www.bankofcanadamuseum.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/1969-1-dollar-recto-1200x400.jpg) (last $1 note to be issued) [1986 Series: Birds of Canada](https://www.bankofcanadamuseum.ca/complete-bank-note-series/1986-the-birds-of-canada-series/birds-of-canada-series-2-note/) (last $2 note to be issued) [2001 Series: Canadian Journey](https://www.bankofcanadamuseum.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/2004-20-dollar-recto_Mark-Carney-1200x400.jpg) [2011 Series: Frontiers](https://www.bankofcanadamuseum.ca/complete-bank-note-series/2011-2013-polymer-series/polymer-series-20-note/) ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scored-four-2-notes-with-a-very-young-queen-elizabeth/812292/39 "2018-05-05T14:23:17Z")
And at a recent coin/stamp/notes show, I got a really nice [George VI $1 from the 1937 series](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/1937-1-bank-of-canada-face.jpg). Still feels a little bit crisp and no obvious fold marks; very bright green. I felt like a cheapskate paying with two twenties and getting change back, when I saw other people paying for their purchases by peeling off several fifties or several hundreds. :eek: There is obviously a lot of money in old money! ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scored-four-2-notes-with-a-very-young-queen-elizabeth/812292/40 "2018-05-06T01:25:58Z")
Ah, I miss the old two dollar bills. The toonie just weighs heavily in the pockets. It’s been a long time since I’ve seen one in the wild. But I did see a Sony Discman the other day. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scored-four-2-notes-with-a-very-young-queen-elizabeth/812292.md?page=1)