# Scotland's referendum on Independence 18 Sept 2014 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 21, 2014, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356 "2014-01-21T12:11:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 40
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/781 "2014-09-18T20:03:14Z")
12 out of 20. As an ignorant American, I consider that not too shabby. ---
**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/782 "2014-09-18T20:04:05Z")
> [@Bozuit](#): > > Why wouldn’t/shouldn’t Scotland have knighthoods? [I am pretty sure they already do](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Thistle). Of course, they are currently granted by Queen Elizabeth, but she is, and is expected to remain, queen of Scotland as well as of England (and Wales, Northern Ireland, Australia, Canada, etc.) ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/783 "2014-09-18T20:46:25Z")
> [@Pjen](#): > > Fair’s fair. > > Any non-Scot who scores better than 15 on this test earns the right to have their comments about Scottish Independence taken seriously. > > [http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/could-you-pass-a-scottish-citizenship-test--lJfaVbmL4l](http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/could-you-pass-a-scottish-citizenship-test--lJfaVbmL4l) Ignorant American and I got 18. I still don’t think anyone who isn’t Scottish and who isn’t directly involved (and able to vote) really has much to say on this. I’m with Scott Manley on that one. But as someone completely not involved, I actually hope the Scotts vote YES! on this one. It will be interesting to see how it plays out if they do. ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/784 "2014-09-18T20:48:10Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > That is interesting, though I feel like the Nos are being rendered before/under the Yeses, so that it looks like Yes is winning, but it might be even. Though it could be that there are fewer of them, so they’re quickly swapped to the bottom. Hard to tell, without looking at the code. Yes voters are far more vocal on social media. As a Scotsman my feed of those openly saying which way they intend to vote is roughly 8 to 1 in favour of Yes. I suspect my friends on social media are more likely to be Yes voters, but I do not expect all my social media friends to break in quite those numbers. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/785 "2014-09-18T20:51:09Z")
> [@XT](#): > > Ignorant American and I got 18. Yay! > [@](#): > > the Scotts Boo! ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/786 "2014-09-18T20:52:34Z")
[QUOTE= Pjen] Fair’s fair. Any non-Scot who scores better than 15 on this test earns the right to have their comments about Scottish Independence taken seriously. [http://i100.independent.co.uk/articl...st--lJfaVbmL4l](http://i100.independent.co.uk/articl...st--lJfaVbmL4l) [/QUOTE] Ten. No True Scotsman fails the test. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/787 "2014-09-18T20:52:47Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > Yay! > > Boo! Chalk it up to spell checker posting from my phone. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/788 "2014-09-18T20:54:07Z")
> [@njtt](#): > > Damn, only 14! :mad: > > But how is it false that James I succeeded Elizabeth I (not as king of Scotland, of course, but he did succeed her)? Come to that, is it really false that Shakespeare composed his _Henry VIII_ during James’ reign? I was under the impression that it was generally considered to be the last play he worked on, and he certainly lived, and continued writing plays, well into James’ reign. (Maybe Shakespeare scholars now date the play earlier than they used to, but, if so, that is a matter of knowledge, fairly esoteric knowledge, about Shakespeare, not knowledge about Scotland.) > > It is also pretty nitpicky to say that James was not the “principal target of the Gunpowder Plot”. He was certainly _a_ target, and by far the most prominent target, even if the plotters actually hated some of the parliamentarians more. I think you may have misread the question. Those are all wrong answers because they are TRUE statements about James, and you were supposed to pick the FALSE one. ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/789 "2014-09-18T20:55:27Z")
> [@XT](#): > > Chalk it up to spell checker posting from my phone. 😛 Too late, your status as honorary Scotchman is denied! ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/790 "2014-09-18T21:01:42Z")
> [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](#): > > Too late, your status as honorary Scotchman is denied! Damn…and I always wanted to be a Scot too! ☹ I love the kilts and the accent. Plus, who doesn’t love Scott Manley??? ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/791 "2014-09-18T21:03:39Z")
It’s too bad the Scottish National Party (SNP) didn’t name themselves the Scottish National Independence Party (SNIP.) Not only would SNIP be easier to pronounce than SNP, but the “SNIP” could be taken to signify severance from the UK. “Snip, Snip, Snip, Snip, Snip, Snip, Snip, Snip!” ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/792 "2014-09-18T21:44:45Z")
YouGov polling company sticking their necks out and saying it’ll be 54% in favour of no. Based on Internet polling on how people say they’ve voted. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/793 "2014-09-18T21:49:45Z")
> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#): > > Based on Internet polling on how people say they’ve voted. If you can’t trust internet polls, what can you trust? ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/794 "2014-09-18T22:17:54Z")
> [@XT](#): > > I actually hope the Scotts vote YES! on this one. > [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > Boo! Hey, hey, hey…he just talking about Bob and Georgine, [the Scotts](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Scott). Get off his back :D. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/795 "2014-09-18T22:28:26Z")
> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#): > > YouGov polling company sticking their necks out and saying it’ll be 54% in favour of no. Based on Internet polling on how people say they’ve voted. That’s based on a re-poll of people they’ve already polled, after they’ve been to the polls. ---
**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/796 "2014-09-18T22:53:35Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > That’s based on a re-poll of people they’ve already polled, after they’ve been to the polls. I wonder if any of them were Poles? ---
**Author:** ![Bozuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bozuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bozuit)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/797 "2014-09-18T23:53:17Z")
> [@Ximenean](#): > > I wonder if any of them were Poles? Almost certainly. I heard from some quiz somewhere that Poles are the largest group of foreign-born residents in Scotland. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/798 "2014-09-19T00:17:53Z")
> [@Ximenean](#): > > I wonder if any of them were Poles? Re-polling Poles who have already been polled after they’ve been to the polls is likely just Polish pollsters polling Poles. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/799 "2014-09-19T00:38:05Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Re-polling Poles who have already been polled after they’ve been to the polls is likely just Polish pollsters polling Poles. I won’t touch that with a ten foot pole, or a nine foot Italian… ---
**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/800 "2014-09-19T00:40:12Z")
First result in, from the splendidly-named Clackmannanshire, and it’s exactly in line with the aforementioned pole, I mean poll: 54% No. Only a small area, but one the pundits are saying Yes might have hoped to win. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356.md?page=39) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356.md?page=41)