# Scotland's referendum on Independence 18 Sept 2014 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 21, 2014, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356 "2014-01-21T12:11:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 41
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/801 "2014-09-19T01:10:38Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > 12 out of 20. As an ignorant American, I consider that not too shabby. My score, but I got a couple of guesses right. Also from John Oliver I knew the national animal. - Question ---- Assuming a No vote, how soon can we expect another referendum on the same question? ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/802 "2014-09-19T01:13:26Z")
Orkney goes no, 10,004 to 4,883. Not really a surprise there. Total votes counted so far: Yes: 21,233 No: 29,040 ---
**Author:** ![PaulParkhead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@PaulParkhead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PaulParkhead)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/803 "2014-09-19T01:49:08Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > - Question ---- > > Assuming a No vote, how soon can we expect another referendum on the same question? Don’t expect another one any time soon. If Devo Max is delivered as promised, I wouldn’t expect this question to come up again within the next 20 years. If it’s not, as seems at least possible, I dunno. Still not soon. It’s been a fascinating couple of years in Scotland, but I don’t think we’re in a hurry to repeat this. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/804 "2014-09-19T01:53:41Z")
Shetlands in, no 9,951 to 5,669. Totals: Yes: 26,902 No: 38,911 Six other districts supposed to report soon. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/805 "2014-09-19T02:21:26Z")
Comhairle nan Eilean Siar (aka The Western Isles), No, 10,544 to 9,195. Totals Yes: 36,097 No: 49,535 ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/806 "2014-09-19T02:37:41Z")
Inverclyde is in, No wins, 27,329 over 27,243. Yes: 63,340 No: 76,864 ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/807 "2014-09-19T02:51:29Z")
BBC News has a special live update as the count goes on. > **[Scottish independence referendum - BBC News](https://www.bbc.com/news/events/scotland-decides)** > > The latest news, live coverage and results for the 2014 Scottish independence referendum from the BBC The numbers that turned out to vote are amazing. 80% and up turnout and it included 16 and 17 year olds. It seems likely that the UK will stay united. Results won’t be official until Friday. I think its\*\* very important\*\* that the new powers promised to Scotland are actually implemented. The Yes vote for Independence is close to 40% and the politicians need to see that as a clear warning that change must come. > **[UK party leaders promise Scotland new powers ahead of key independence vote |...](https://www.cnn.com/2014/09/16/world/europe/scotland-independence-vote/)** > > The three main UK party leaders gave a joint promise Tuesday that Scotland will get extra powers if it opts to stay part of the United Kingdom. > [@](#): > > In a pledge published on the front page of Scotland’s Daily Record newspaper, the three leaders say that if Scotland’s voters reject independence, work to devolve “extensive new powers” from the central government in Westminster will start Friday. > > The issue of spending on social welfare and health care, through the National Health Service, has been central to the pro-independence campaign. Questions over the economy and taxation have also been key. > > In their promise, the leaders say “we can state categorically that the final say on how much is spent on the NHS will be a matter for the Scottish Parliament.” > > They conclude, “People want to see change. A No vote will deliver faster, safer and better change than separation.” ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/808 "2014-09-19T02:57:52Z")
Dundee, Yes 53,620 over No, 39,880 and Renfrewshire, No, 62,067 over Yes, 55,466 New totals: Yes:172,426 No: 178,811. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/809 "2014-09-19T03:12:50Z")
West Dunbarshire Yes, 33,720 over No 28,776 Midlothian, No 33,972, over Yes 26, 370 New totals: Yes: 232,516 No: 241,559 ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/810 "2014-09-19T03:24:18Z")
East Lothian, No, 44,283 over Yes, 27,467 Sterling, No, 37,153 over Yes 25,010 Falkirk, No, 58,030 over Yes 50,489 Totals: Yes: 335,482 No: 381,025 ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/811 "2014-09-19T03:37:38Z")
My heart is broken. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/812 "2014-09-19T03:38:49Z")
Angus is in, No 45,192 over Yes 35,044 Aberdeen No 84.094 over Yes 59,390 Dumfries No 70,039 over Yes 36,614 East Renfrewshire, No 41,690 over Yes 24,287 East Dunbartonshire, No 48,314 over Yes 30,624 Totals: Yes: 521,441 No: 670,354 ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/813 "2014-09-19T03:49:54Z")
NORTH LANARKSHIRE RESULT “Yes” wins by 115,783 to 110,922. That’s 51.1% for “Yes” and 48.9% for “No”. Total votes counted 226,883. Turnout 84.4%. ``` No 903,076 Yes 738,214 ``` ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/814 "2014-09-19T03:55:20Z")
More results North Lanarkshire, Yes 115,783 over No 110,922 South Lanarkshire, No 121,800 over Yes 100,922 Perth, No 62,714 over Yes 41,475 Glasgow, Yes 194,779 over No 169,347 Totals: Yes: 1,055,799 No: 1,256,372 ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/815 "2014-09-19T03:56:04Z")
Now with Glasgow in: No: 1,256,372 Yes: 1,055,716 ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/816 "2014-09-19T04:01:08Z")
Borders No 55,553 over Yes 27,906 North Ayrshire No 49,016 over Yes 47,072 Totals: Yes: 1,102,788 No: 1,305,388 ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/817 "2014-09-19T04:07:52Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Re-polling Poles who have already been polled after they’ve been to the polls is likely just Polish pollsters polling Poles. …who were scratching their polls after thinking about the poll tax? Apparently the polling Poles are pondering polling Poland, potentially. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/818 "2014-09-19T04:13:38Z")
South Ayrshire, No 47,247 over Yes 34,402 East Ayrshire, No 44,442 over Yes 39762 Totals: Yes: 1,176,952 No: 1,397,077 6 districts left. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/819 "2014-09-19T04:18:33Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > South Ayrshire, No 47,247 over Yes 34,402 > > East Ayrshire, No 44,442 over Yes 39762 > > Totals: > > Yes: 1,176,952 > No: 1,397,077 > > 6 districts left. [BBC](http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-29238890) is reporting total different from those after East Ayrshire: No 1,305,388 Yes 1,102,788 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356/820 "2014-09-19T04:21:25Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Ten. > > No True Scotsman fails the test. That’s very reassuring, because I scored ten also. Looks the UK will remain united for now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356.md?page=40) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotlands-referendum-on-independence-18-sept-2014/679356.md?page=42)