# Scots: The New Dewar's Ad featuring an Englishwoman doing a Scots accent - okay?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 11, 2012, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scots-the-new-dewars-ad-featuring-an-englishwoman-doing-a-scots-accent-okay/643727 "2012-12-11T19:04:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scots-the-new-dewars-ad-featuring-an-englishwoman-doing-a-scots-accent-okay/643727/61 "2012-12-13T18:34:01Z")

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> [@The\_Stafford\_Cripps](#):
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> If it has got anything to do with the independence referendum it’s badly informed, since the monarchy is not up for discussion in 2014.

Not to hijack the thread or anything, but I’m confused: The King of Scotland inherited the throne of England, not the other way around. How, then, would the monarchy be affected by independence?

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scots-the-new-dewars-ad-featuring-an-englishwoman-doing-a-scots-accent-okay/643727/62 "2012-12-13T18:43:42Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Not to hijack the thread or anything, but I’m confused: The King of Scotland inherited the throne of England, not the other way around. How, then, would the monarchy be affected by independence?

If the yes side win the referendum the position of the monarchy would be discussed in the separation negotiations but I wouldn’t expect the position to change that much while the queen remains on the throne. When she dies things might begin to change quite radically, but that would also apply to Canada, Australia etc.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scots-the-new-dewars-ad-featuring-an-englishwoman-doing-a-scots-accent-okay/643727/63 "2012-12-13T18:50:25Z")

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> [@The\_Stafford\_Cripps](#):
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> If the yes side win the referendum the position of the monarchy would be discussed in the separation negotiations but I wouldn’t expect the position to change that much while the queen remains on the throne. When she dies things might begin to change quite radically, but that would also apply to Canada, Australia etc.

That is, it’s possible the Scottish monarchy might be abolished separately? Or the monarchy overall?

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scots-the-new-dewars-ad-featuring-an-englishwoman-doing-a-scots-accent-okay/643727/64 "2012-12-13T21:04:37Z")

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If the monarchy falls, what ever will they do with the Stone of Scone?

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**Author:** ![Corcaigh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Corcaigh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corcaigh)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scots-the-new-dewars-ad-featuring-an-englishwoman-doing-a-scots-accent-okay/643727/65 "2012-12-13T21:11:25Z")

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> [@Cinnamon\_Imp](#):
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> “Get yer coat luv, you’ve pulled”?
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> 😉

LOL

And for the love of gawd, do NOT call Scots people Brits, they don’t like that at all. Well none of the ones I met did!

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**Author:** ![Cinnamon\_Imp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@Cinnamon\_Imp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinnamon_Imp)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scots-the-new-dewars-ad-featuring-an-englishwoman-doing-a-scots-accent-okay/643727/66 "2012-12-13T21:26:55Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> I’m English, and I agree. Shrek’s Scots accent is better than the one in that ad.

To be fair, Mike Myers has a Scottish dad, so he’s picked up the accent naturally. See “So I Married an Axe Murderer” for more examples of his expert grasp of the culture 🙂

(“Piper down! We have a piper down!”)

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scots-the-new-dewars-ad-featuring-an-englishwoman-doing-a-scots-accent-okay/643727/67 "2012-12-13T21:57:09Z")

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> [@Corcaigh](#):
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> LOL
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> And for the love of gawd, do NOT call Scots people Brits, they don’t like that at all. Well none of the ones I met did!

This is going to confuse things - even if Scots don’t like being called “Brits”, they are actually British. What was being objected to earlier was “Brits” being used **synonymously** with English in a sentence which also mentioned Scots.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scots-the-new-dewars-ad-featuring-an-englishwoman-doing-a-scots-accent-okay/643727/68 "2012-12-13T22:01:46Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> That is, it’s possible the Scottish monarchy might be abolished separately? Or the monarchy overall?

Of course - if Scotland becomes independent it could obviously do what it likes with the monarchy. At present the most likely thing would be to keep it though, or alter the terms in some way especially for Scotland.

And it’s always possible that the monarchy could be abolished in the UK even if Scotland doesn’t become independent, especially once the queen dies. It’s just that that’s not very likely.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scots-the-new-dewars-ad-featuring-an-englishwoman-doing-a-scots-accent-okay/643727/69 "2012-12-13T22:19:12Z")

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> [@Cinnamon\_Imp](#):
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> To be fair, Mike Myers has a Scottish dad, so he’s picked up the accent naturally. See “So I Married an Axe Murderer” for more examples of his expert grasp of the culture 🙂

The dad’s accent in that film is scarily like my dad’s accent 🙂

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scots-the-new-dewars-ad-featuring-an-englishwoman-doing-a-scots-accent-okay/643727/70 "2012-12-13T22:27:10Z")

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> [@The\_Stafford\_Cripps](#):
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> And it’s always possible that the monarchy could be abolished in the UK even if Scotland doesn’t become independent, especially once the queen dies. It’s just that that’s not very likely.

I realize that; what I was wondering was if it would be possible to abolish the Scottish monarchy _independently_ of the UK’s.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scots-the-new-dewars-ad-featuring-an-englishwoman-doing-a-scots-accent-okay/643727/71 "2012-12-13T22:54:55Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> I realize that; what I was wondering was if it would be possible to abolish the Scottish monarchy _independently_ of the UK’s.

In an independent Scotland, yes, sure. An independent Scotland would be in the same position as Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the other Realms in that respect.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scots-the-new-dewars-ad-featuring-an-englishwoman-doing-a-scots-accent-okay/643727/72 "2012-12-13T22:59:42Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> In an independent Scotland, yes, sure. An independent Scotland would be in the same position as Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the other Realms in that respect.

Question out of left field: Is there any possibility of a Stuart restoration? Has anyone ever raised it? Are there even any pretenders currently alive?

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scots-the-new-dewars-ad-featuring-an-englishwoman-doing-a-scots-accent-okay/643727/73 "2012-12-13T23:14:21Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Question out of left field: Is there any possibility of a Stuart restoration? Has anyone ever raised it? Are there even any pretenders currently alive?

Aye, I think there is a Stuart pretender out there somewhere, some French bloke. The possibility of an actual restoration is almost zero though. Honestly, the whole monarchy thing is not a pressing matter for most.

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[Here’s](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnSIp76CvUI) my idea of a Scotsman selling me Scotch whiskey…and all in one take. Brilliant!

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scots-the-new-dewars-ad-featuring-an-englishwoman-doing-a-scots-accent-okay/643727/75 "2012-12-14T01:26:55Z")

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> [@For You](#):
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> If the monarchy falls, what ever will they do with the Stone of Scone?

nm

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> [@The\_Stafford\_Cripps](#):
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> This is going to confuse things - even if Scots don’t like being called “Brits”, they are actually British. What was being objected to earlier was “Brits” being used **synonymously** with English in a sentence which also mentioned Scots.

There is a cringe-worthy moment in a movie called _A Life Less Ordinary_ in which Cameron Diaz explains to a neighbor at the door that her “boyfriend” (Ewan MacGregor) is “… from Scotland. That’s in England.”

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scots-the-new-dewars-ad-featuring-an-englishwoman-doing-a-scots-accent-okay/643727/77 "2012-12-14T04:13:10Z")

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> [@singular1](#):
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> I’m fairly certain she says “Are ya thersty, Angus?” at the end of the commercial. Mr singular agrees.

As do I. But there may well be more than one version. I’ve seen it a few times and it’s…odd. Despite the thread it engendered, NOT thought-worthy odd, however. Just…odd.

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> [@Cinnamon\_Imp](#):
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> (“Piper down! We have a piper down!”)

If it ain’t Scottish, it’s crap! (One of my favorite movies ever 🙂 )

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I’m not Scottish. I know Forlani’s accent is fake. I think the commercial is brilliant.

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> [@Cinnamon\_Imp](#):
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> To be fair, Mike Myers has a Scottish dad, so he’s picked up the accent naturally. See “So I Married an Axe Murderer” for more examples of his expert grasp of the culture 🙂
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> (“Piper down! We have a piper down!”)

[Wiki](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Myers)

> [@](#):
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> Both of his parents are from Liverpool, England.

Do you know something I don’t?

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