# Scott Plaid, Stand Up or Shut Up **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 2, 2005, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794 "2005-07-02T03:22:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2005, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/21 "2005-07-02T04:53:37Z")
But what if they’re quadrangled and milled? ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2005, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/22 "2005-07-02T04:56:23Z")
For anyone who really wants to know, I believe **don Jamie** is referring to [this late, lamented humor site](http://www.grudge-match.com/current.html), where the phrase he mentions was sometimes given as a third option when two unpopular figures (like, say, Barney and Wesley Crusher) are pitted against one another. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2005, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/23 "2005-07-02T04:59:55Z")
Don’t be so hard on Scott. Lots of people never get their pony to master even one trick while it’s alive, much less withstand continuous postmortem pummelings. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2005, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/24 "2005-07-02T05:03:51Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > For anyone who really wants to know, I believe **don Jamie** is referring to [this late, lamented humor site](http://www.grudge-match.com/current.html), where the phrase he mentions was sometimes given as a third option when two unpopular figures (like, say, Barney and Wesley Crusher) are pitted against one another. Ah. Thank you for increasing my cultural literacy. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2005, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/25 "2005-07-02T06:56:54Z")
> [@](#): > > **tomndebb** : Perhaps the subject simply lacks the gravitas necessary to hold anyone’s attention? This dotty old woman was about to nod off at the keyboard until I found this tangent: > [@](#): > > **elucidator** : I very much doubt there are many men who can tea-bag themselves. If such a flexibility were common, the practice of onanism would not require thumbs. Further evidence that the Goddess knew what She was doing. Now _that_ has the necessary gravitas for me. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2005, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/26 "2005-07-02T07:01:11Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > You are far more a political soulmate of mine than either of the aforementioned are, but your actions and your personality are increasingly pissing me off. Kudos to the OP for sticking up for quality discourse. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2005, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/27 "2005-07-02T08:10:22Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > Perhaps. What have _you_ done lately? [Fought some ignorance](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6323768#post6323768), [posted a smartassed remark](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6323799#post6323799), [sought to make the board a more polite place](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6321512#post6321512), [encouraged board participation](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6321272#post6321272), and provided [a bit more knowledge](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6319798#post6319798) [and sources of knowledge](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6320037#post6320037) for the Teeming Millions. And you? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2005, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/28 "2005-07-02T08:22:04Z")
“Do not meddle in the affairs of Mods, for they are subtle, and quick to anger.” ---
**Author:** ![boofuu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f4b2a3/32.png) [@boofuu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boofuu)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2005, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/29 "2005-07-02T11:23:58Z")
I will admit that the linked threads show a bit of… underhandedness in avoiding pittings. I will assume that Mr. Plaid did not feel extremely strongly about the subject matter, in which case he might have been best in just not posting in the first place… But, Why all the hate for **Scott Plaid**? Really. He paid his money and has the right to post anywhere and as often as he wants. Hell, if coherency was a pre-requisite here, tons of people would be kicked to the curb. Probably me (Tell me I am not incoherent, please? Not consistenly at least. I try to preview.) He is not my best friend; in fact a comment he made on a post of mine (that admittedly may not have been understood as in joking manner in which I wrote it) left me mildly antipathetic towards him. But hardly enough to feel the rancor against him that some people have. In fact, I learned to word my posts carefully and diplomatically as possible, using the proper amount of emoticons to get my point across. Hmm, maybe I should try to fix that last sentence to resemble something coherent. 😃 (see smiley) It seems to me that people spend _a lot of time_ pointing out that they do not understand him. Maybe because I am trained to work with people with reading and writing disabilities (and I am in not saying that Scott Plaid has one) that his posts are not as incoherent as they seem. It often derails an interesting thread. Honestly, it just seems rude to keep pointing it out. I dunno, nitpicking is a pet peeve of mine. If you do not understand or agree with his posts, why not just leave them alone? Vicious cycle and all that. ---
**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2005, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/30 "2005-07-02T11:42:51Z")
> [@boofuu](#): > > Why all the hate for **Scott Plaid**? I haven’t seen any _hate_. I see irritation enough to start a Pit thread, yes, but so far, no hate. I don’t think it’s just one thing that’s really led to this Pitting, either. Friend Scott has several annoying habits, any one of which would hardly go noticed since so many of us do them now and again. But **Scott** pushes the envelope by maintaining practically a catalog of irritating behavior which he draws from again and again, constantly, like a kind of SDMB water torture dripping on our eyeballs. ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2005, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/31 "2005-07-02T11:55:33Z")
> [@boofuu](#): > > Why all the hate for **Scott Plaid**? And he just won’t shut up. I don’t have a well-thought out reason for feeling this way, other than he went from “Hey, a new poster” to “Hey, there he is again” to “Wow, he has a lot of opinions” to “He posts a lot” to “Dude, could you, I dunno, not post on EVERY thing that enters your brain?” to “OMG STFU!!!” in the space of 5 months. It’s not logical, but it does annoy the piss out of me, just like the lady at work who, whenever anyone is talking about anything, she feels the need to come over and put in her two cents. ---
**Author:** ![boofuu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f4b2a3/32.png) [@boofuu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boofuu)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2005, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/32 "2005-07-02T11:59:35Z")
> [@Uvula Donor](#): > > I haven’t seen any _hate_. I see irritation enough to start a Pit thread, yes, but so far, no hate. > > I don’t think it’s just one thing that’s really led to this Pitting, either. Friend Scott has several annoying habits, any one of which would hardly go noticed since so many of us do them now and again. But **Scott** pushes the envelope by maintaining practically a catalog of irritating behavior which he draws from again and again, constantly, like a kind of SDMB water torture dripping on our eyeballs. See, there I go with the unclear language. I meant more like the urban slang “hate;” y’know, not hate-hate but dislike. I understand he has irritating behavior and did not say it did not warrent a pitting (or did I? short term memory= -1 min). I am just saying if irritating behavior was a crime, well, hooboy. Just seems pitting should be for more heinous crimes. He and I joined about the same time but I have not seen what it is that raises the blood pressure of some other poster. Scott is nothing if not earnest. My impression is “mostly harmless.” Seems like he is easier to ignore. I guess if this pit is more of a venting, though… no harm, no foul. I was just saying, is all. ---
**Author:** ![Eureka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/74df32/32.png) [@Eureka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eureka)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2005, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/33 "2005-07-02T13:06:49Z")
**boofuu** , How long have you been reading the boards? I ask simply because your membership dates to about the time that **Scott Plaid** started contributing, so you may be less aware of what threads were like before he joined. Both misplaced pittings linked in the OP show (to me) a high profile, high post, new poster who is dissatisfied with the way that the board works, and has worked for a long time. He seems to want to change the world, or chase off the oponents. I never approve of new posters (or low post count posters) who think they should be able to change the board, rather than adapt their behavior to it. If Scott posted less frequently, he’d be easier to ignore. I’ve been seriously thinking about starting a pit thread on him for a couple of days. However, I’ve never started a pit thread, and my feelings tend more towards exasperation than vitriol. I almost never post in threads that he posts in (and would almost never post in the threads he posts in if he wasn’t there posting in them). Therefore it seemed like my starting a Pit thread on him would be whiny. So I have been hoping that someone else would start a Pit thread so that I could chime in with “Shut up” or at least “Slow Down”. **Scott Plaid** Back off on the use of [del] to mark out cutesy comments that don’t add anything to the thread. The most egregious example of this is the [Yu-gi-oh](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=322160&page=3&pp=148) /T. J.-Oh card in the mutant registry thread. Phrased the way it was, it struck me as minimizing the significance of both **Scott Plaid** ’s point, and the point made by **Bricker** that it responded to. (And both **Tomndebb** and **Bricker** thought it was less relevant than Scott did anyway. Heck, back off on the cutesy-ness even when not struck out. Back off on the gleefull assurance that your side is fundamentally right and the other side is wrong. (Note: you are not the only offender in this respect. The other offenders I can’t change. I probably can’t change you either, but you are a new enough (and young enough sounding) poster for me to make the effort). And please, if a thread (in GD) is not going your way, there are a limited number of appropriate responses: 1. Quit posting in the thread. Perhaps with a message that says “I have not changed my mind but have wearied of trying to change yours/wearied of discussing this issue” 2. Start a new thread in GD- and link to it in the old thread saying “here is where we can discuss whether Bush lied for the umpteenth time, so that this thread can remain more focused on whether the board is unbalanced and what can be done about it” 3. Start a Pit thread. Be warned, though, the responses in this thread, and the ones linked to in the OP, suggest that you may get piled on instead- as many posters would prefer having people like **Shodan** and \*\* Bricker\*\* around to fight with than you around to agree with. ---
**Author:** ![Eureka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/74df32/32.png) [@Eureka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eureka)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2005, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/34 "2005-07-02T13:09:30Z")
Ugh. The link in the above post goes to page 3 of the Mutant Registration Act thread. The post I refer to is #148, near the bottom of page 3. Obviously, I have no idea how to link to a single post. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2005, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/35 "2005-07-02T15:00:50Z")
> [@](#): > > Obviously, I have no idea how to link to a single post. Click “Reply to” or “Edit” on this post and copy the text that demonstrates [the way to link to a specific post within a thread while opening the whole thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6290934#post6290934) (where the “p=” and “#post” number are the same and can found by hovering your cursor over the “Edit” button at the bottom of the post and looking at the end of the displayed URL that ends “p=#######”) and [the way to link to a single post so that only that post is displayed](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6290934&postcount=148) (where the “p=” can found by hovering your cursor over the “Edit” button at the bottom of the post and the “postcount=” number is the little identfying number in the top right corner of the post. (Be sure to NOT then attempt to reply or edit; just copy the text into a notepad or other document that you can use as a template and then cancel out of the edit or reply function.) ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2005, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/36 "2005-07-02T15:49:56Z")
Or you could right-click on the post number, select “Copy Shortcut”, and paste. ---
**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2005, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/37 "2005-07-02T16:07:10Z")
> [@boofuu](#): > > See, there I go with the unclear language. I meant more like the urban slang “hate;” y’know, not hate-hate but dislike. No sweat - I took ya too literally. Happens. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2005, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/38 "2005-07-02T16:19:03Z")
> [@Eureka](#): > > Ugh. The link in the above post goes to page 3 of the Mutant Registration Act thread. The post I refer to is #148, near the bottom of page 3. Obviously, I have no idea how to link to a single post. Click on the number in the upper right hand corner. That’ll open the post in a new window. Then it’s just like any other link. ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2005, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/39 "2005-07-02T16:22:32Z")
That’s what I love about this place. Come in for the Pitting, but stay for the valuable tech tips. ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2005, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/40 "2005-07-02T17:07:57Z")
Can I just vote for “shut up”? Good God man, do you stop posting long enough to use the bathroom? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794.md?page=3)