# Scott Plaid, Stand Up or Shut Up **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 2, 2005, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794 "2005-07-02T03:22:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 47
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/921 "2005-07-13T18:21:10Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > Scott would claim to be right, based on an article like [this](http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/leakey.htm) (note the domain, which is almost as good as giantrobot): But the particular fossil nicknamed “Lucy” was discovered by Johanson’s team, not Leakey’s. \*\*Scott \*\*would be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/922 "2005-07-13T18:23:36Z")
> [@Scott Plaid](#): > > For one thing, I can not think of a single time I used it that was not appropriate. Thus, there is no “overuse” [Not even this one?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6290934&postcount=148) You could always try putting this one to a vote, to see what the general consensus is. > [@](#): > > By using it, I spread awareness of it. It is a tool like any other, and people should know about it. Based on this wisdom, I am now off to spread the word about the \ \ tags to all users of Netscape. ---
**Author:** ![Hunter\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@Hunter\_Hawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hunter_Hawk)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/923 "2005-07-13T18:31:59Z")
Having followed this thread for a while now, I can only conclude that I would be _so_ willing to pay good money to see a debate between **Scott Plaid** and **Roland Deschain**. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/924 "2005-07-13T18:32:59Z")
> [@Scott Plaid](#): > > You see, you refused to believe what the actual facts of the case was. This has gone past amusing and is now into the territory of sad and depressing. **Scott** , as of now, I’m no longer considering you an irritating distraction; instead, I’m lumping you in with **seethruart** and **Sea Sorbust** , except your pathetic obsession is not as prosaically schizophrenic as hordes of tiny space invaders or the possibility of asteroid-caused cataclysm; your obsession is with your own ego. This means neither your dysfunction nor mockery of it is funny to me any more. I didn’t entertain myself in school by slapping the books out of the arms of the big-headed kid in the back of the bus, and I’m not going to do it now. You’re not just a garden-variety idiot. I think there’s something legitimately wrong with you, and it makes me sad. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/925 "2005-07-13T18:42:25Z")
> [@Tim Staab](#): > > Thanks to you all. I’m new here, and this has been a fun and informative experience. Through the posts here, and by following links, I’ve learned a lot about how the board works, what kinds of people are here, and how discussions work (and don’t work). … **snip** … I’ll probably wander away from this train wreck now (but morbid curiousity may draw me back). Thanks again to all. Gosh… I just noticed that over 3/5 of your posts so far have been to this thread. Talk about jumping into the deep end… Welcome to the SDMB! Now head over to Cafe Society and get some fresh air! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/926 "2005-07-13T18:51:22Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > DAMN! > > After reading this, I had to go pour myself a tasty beverage, sit back in front of the computer (my monitor seems to have finally retired back to his terrarium), fill my mouth with said beverage, reread your post, spew ungodly amounts of salivad and slightly warmed beverage all over my computer TV thingy (what? that’s also called a monitor? weird), and relate the news of this wonderful event to you all. > > DAMN! (again) I am grateful that you have allowed me to enter the hallowed halls of those rare few who cause the beverage-spew-on-the-computor response. Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/927 "2005-07-13T19:01:31Z")
> [@Hunter Hawk](#): > > Having followed this thread for a while now, I can only conclude that I would be _so_ willing to pay good money to see a debate between **Scott Plaid** and **Roland Deschain**. I suspect the hamsters would beg to differ. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/928 "2005-07-13T19:20:15Z")
I’d like to see a case-law debate between **Scott Plaid** and **Beryl Mooncalf**. ---
**Author:** ![Greathouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greathouse/32/2992_2.png) [@Greathouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greathouse)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/929 "2005-07-13T19:33:22Z")
> [@BMalion](#): > > I’d like to see a case-law debate between **Scott Plaid** and **Beryl Mooncalf**. That would be FUCKING AWESOME! ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/930 "2005-07-13T19:36:11Z")
I’d like to see a debate between Scott Plaid and a rabid chimpanzee. We could take off the usernames and have fun guessing which was which. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/931 "2005-07-13T19:59:09Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > But the particular fossil nicknamed “Lucy” was discovered by Johanson’s team, not Leakey’s. \*\*Scott \*\*would be wrong. Absolutely. Admitting when I’m wrong, instead of digging up a cite that shows I’m wrong and claiming it says I’m right, is what separates me from **Scott**. 🙂 (I googled Lucy just to make sure I was wrong, as I always do when someone corrects me; once I had the cite, I figured I may as well use it as an example.) Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/932 "2005-07-13T20:07:25Z")
> [@BMalion](#): > > I’d like to see a case-law debate between **Scott Plaid** and **Beryl Mooncalf**. Oh, God. I would pay serious money to watch that happen. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/933 "2005-07-13T20:41:17Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > > [@BMalion](#): > > > > I’d like to see a case-law debate between Scott Plaid and Beryl Mooncalf. > > Oh, God. > > I would pay serious money to watch that happen. How about getting Fred Phelps to moderate? ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/934 "2005-07-13T21:08:44Z")
> [@Scott Plaid](#): > > As the Jews were making constant disturbances at the instigation of “Useful One”, he [Claudius] expelled them from Rome." Besides which, being expelled from roman hardly equals a crcifixion. Hah! Here’s a clue: “them” that “he” expelled from Rome were the Jews, not “Useful One” – so the point that expulsion “hardly equals a crucifixion” is a thoroughly silly one. Is this really so hard? (Shouldn’t “Useful One” be Paul’s chum Onesimus? That’s what the name means.) ---
**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/935 "2005-07-13T21:56:54Z")
> [@Rufus Xavier](#): > > I think this might be a good time to display my sig. It appears to be quite apropos (3 cents to **Sauron** ). Attaboy! Baby needs a new pair of shoes! ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/936 "2005-07-13T23:25:05Z")
> [@Scott Plaid](#): > > The answer to your question is that there are no existing records that would allow a reasonable person (much less a jew) to believe in even least detail about jesus. Birthdate, what time he was alive, etc. Ok… Without “No True Scotsman”-ing me, respond to this: I’m a Jew, and I’ll bet that I can find, oh…say 5 people here to agree that I’m reasonable (which is more than you’ve had this entire thread). And yet, I’m willing to believe “the least detail” about Jesus (IE, while not believing that he was messiah, I think there’s enough historical evidence to make a strong case that he existed–which is certainly “the least” I could believe.) And, **Cecil** agrees [the idea that Jesus most likely existed](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_275.html). > [@](#): > > Still, barring an actual conspiracy, 40 years is too short a time for an entirely mythical Christ to have been fabricated out of (heh-heh) whole cloth. (See below.) Certainly the non-Christians who wrote about him in the years following his putative death did not doubt he had once lived. The Roman historian Tacitus, writing in his Annals around 110 AD, mentions one “Christ, whom the procurator Pontius Pilate had executed in the reign of Tiberius.” The Jewish historian Josephus remarks on the stoning of “James, the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ.” The Talmud, a collection of Jewish writings, also refers to Christ, although it says he was the illegitimate son of a Roman soldier called Panther. Doubts about the historicity of Christ did not surface until the 18th century. In short, whether or not JC was truly the Son of God, he was probably the son of somebody. Cecil, the perfect master trumps Wikipedia. Or are you going to say that Cecil was wrong or isn’t ‘reasonable’? :: waits for Scott to declare that this proves he won :: Note: it’s “Jew” and “Jesus”…is your shift key broken? ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/937 "2005-07-13T23:27:36Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > Admitting when I’m wrong, instead of digging up a cite that shows I’m wrong and claiming it says I’m right, is what separates me from **Scott**. 🙂 So, aside from that, the two of you would be indistinguishable? Is that what you’re saying? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/938 "2005-07-13T23:34:44Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > So, aside from that, the two of you would be indistinguishable? Is that what you’re saying? 😉 Now, that’s just cruel. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/939 "2005-07-14T00:51:53Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > Note: it’s “Jew” and “Jesus”…is your shift key broken? That’s one of Scott’s signature moves, failing to capitalize anything he holds in contempt. These things are beneath his consideration so they are not worthy of capitalization. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794/940 "2005-07-14T01:18:18Z")
> [@Duke of Rat](#): > > That’s one of Scott’s signature moves, failing to capitalize anything he holds in contempt. These things are beneath his consideration so they are not worthy of capitalization. You’re kiddin’, right? That’s such elementary school behavior…about on par with sticking your fingers in your ears and saying “LalalaIcan’thearyou!” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794.md?page=46) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-plaid-stand-up-or-shut-up/310794.md?page=48)