# Scott Walker is in **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 13, 2015, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052 "2015-07-13T13:52:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/61 "2015-07-14T19:03:56Z")
[Rick Santorum says we shouldn’t vote for Scott Walker because Walker’s wife is in favor of gay rights, and she might sway Walker to change his mind on the subject.](http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/rick-santorum-scott-walkers-gay-marriage-120055.html) ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/62 "2015-07-14T22:36:02Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > One of the state’s two U.S. Senate seats has been held by a Republican for 26 of the last 34 years. That’s not correct. It’s 16 out of the last 34 years. And 18 of those 34 years both seats were held by Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/63 "2015-07-14T22:49:55Z")
Kind of creepy how [he worships Ronald Reagan](http://www.vox.com/2015/3/3/8135031/scott-walker-reagan-birthday). Millennia from now, heretics will acknowledge that Ronald Reagan probably was a real person, but they will question his divinity. _(Not my comment. Copied from another board.)_ ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/64 "2015-07-15T01:07:06Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Rick Santorum says we shouldn’t vote for Scott Walker because Walker’s wife is in favor of gay rights, and she might sway Walker to change his mind on the subject.](http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/rick-santorum-scott-walkers-gay-marriage-120055.html) “Tonette” Walker? Who names their daughter “Tonette” ? She sounds like an ocarina. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/65 "2015-07-15T02:04:08Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > “Tonette” Walker? Who names their daughter “Tonette” ? She sounds like an ocarina. Doo-wop singers would name their daughter Tonette. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/66 "2015-07-15T10:19:03Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > The state has typically voted Democratic in recent presidential elections, so there is at least some truth to that part of it. > > Madison is certainly a liberal bastion, and urban Milwaukee (which is 40% black and 17% Hispanic) tends to vote Democratic, as well. But, most of the rest of the state seems to be pretty staunchly conservative these days. > > Anecdotally, when I go back to Green Bay to visit my parents, it definitely seems like Fox News Nation up there. My parents, and a few of my friends who still live up there, are liberals, and they bemoan the feeling that they’re found themselves surrounded by arch-conservatives. The La Crosse area is, I’m told, unusually liberal/Dem despite it being largely working-class white. I hope that’s true – I just became a La Crosse resident this week! ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/67 "2015-07-15T15:21:21Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > That’s not correct. It’s 16 out of the last 34 years. And 18 of those 34 years both seats were held by Democrats. I stand corrected; my math was wrong on how long Russ Feingold held the seat now held by Ron Johnson. The other seat (which was once Joseph McCarthy’s) was held by William Proxmire for 22 years, then Herb Kohl for 24 years (and is now held by Tammy Baldwin). ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/68 "2015-07-15T15:27:18Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > Kind of creepy how [he worships Ronald Reagan](http://www.vox.com/2015/3/3/8135031/scott-walker-reagan-birthday). > > Millennia from now, heretics will acknowledge that Ronald Reagan probably was a real person, but they will question his divinity. > _(Not my comment. Copied from another board.)_ This is creepy beyond words. I’m surprised his wife puts up with dedicating all of their anniversaries to Saint Ronald. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/69 "2015-07-15T16:28:22Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > The other seat (which was once Joseph McCarthy’s) was held by William Proxmire for 22 years, then Herb Kohl for 24 years (and is now held by Tammy Baldwin). Proxmire was a Democrat. I met him once in a restaurant in Howards Grove in the 70’s and I was drunk out of my head. Wasn’t one of my prouder moments. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/70 "2015-07-15T17:31:30Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > Proxmire was a Democrat. Yah; I didn’t make that clear, but that Senate seat (Proxmire / Kohl / Baldwin) has been Democratic since the 1950s. He was well-known for going out in public in Wisconsin to meet his constituents; I had a short conversation with him at a Kay-Bee Toy store while I was in college. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/71 "2015-07-15T18:18:37Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > The other seat (which was once Joseph McCarthy’s) was held by William Proxmire for 22 years Which was still not long enough to let me forget Edith Bunker’s rendition of the name: > [@](#): > > Edith: I dreamed-- [Laughs] You’ll never believe this. > > Archie: Good. Then there ain’t no point in tellin’ it. > > Gloria: I wanna hear the story, Ma. Tell me. > > [Edith laughs] I was in the Miss America contest! [Laughing] > > Archie: Who were you, Edith? Bert Parks? > > Edith: No! Even Bert parks wasn’t Bert Parks. He was Senator Proxmire. I don’t know who Senator Proxmire is, but I kept hearing his name on the radio all day yesterday. And it’s one of those words. “Proxmire, proxmire, proxmire, proxmire, proxmire!” ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/72 "2015-07-15T18:47:04Z")
On Walker’s election (and the GOP hold in general on the WI governor’s office) - remember that the election is on the non-presidential cycle, where Republicans can turn out the vote and the Democrats can’t. So Walker will be facing a different electorate if he is the GOP presidential candidate (and may pull a Gore and lose his home state). That of course doesn’t explain the recall election. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/73 "2015-07-15T18:55:50Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > He was well-known for going out in public in Wisconsin to meet his constituents;) yeah, no shit. I was at the Wagon Wheel restaurant stewed as hell. I’m wondering who this dink is walking around shaking peoples hand. When I was told it was a U.S. Senator I tried acting straight for 2 minutes but slurred every word I spoke to him. We were seniors in high school and the drinking age was 18. Hope that incident wasn’t what later prompted the feds to impose 21 on the states. :p:smack: ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/74 "2015-07-15T20:20:22Z")
[Walker equates gays with pedophiles.](http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/14/politics/scott-walker-boy-scout-troop-leaders/) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/75 "2015-07-15T21:54:17Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > The other seat (which was once Joseph McCarthy’s) was held by William Proxmire for 22 years . . For whom I hold a special hate because he was always such a tightass on space-program and science-research spending. :mad: Burn on Venus, Senator! ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/76 "2015-07-15T23:41:09Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Walker equates gays with pedophiles.](http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/14/politics/scott-walker-boy-scout-troop-leaders/) :rolleyes: He’s doing no such thing. Isn’t it reasonable that a greatER threat to kids would come from overnights and such with adults that are attracted to boys? That means women and gay men. The same would be true for girl scouts…man and lesbians. Now, if you want to argue that women should be able to go on overnights with boy scouts and men should be able to go on overnights with girl scouts, you’re free to make that argument. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/77 "2015-07-16T00:29:49Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > :rolleyes: He’s doing no such thing. Isn’t it reasonable that a greatER threat to kids would come from overnights and such with **adults that are attracted to boys? That means women and gay men**. The same would be true for girl scouts…man and lesbians. Now, if you want to argue that women should be able to go on overnights with boy scouts and men should be able to go on overnights with girl scouts, you’re free to make that argument. None of the women I know are attracted to boys; they are attracted to men. Same with all the gay men I know: they are attracted to men. Why do you think all adult gay men and all adult women are attracted to young boys? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/78 "2015-07-16T03:37:01Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > :rolleyes: He’s doing no such thing. Yes, he is. That’s exactly what he’s doing, and he’s doing it very deliberately. “Gays are a threat to our children,” is one of the oldest homophobic slurs out there. > [@](#): > > Isn’t it reasonable that a greatER threat to kids would come from overnights and such with adults that are attracted to boys? That means women and gay men. The same would be true for girl scouts…man and lesbians. No, it’s not reasonable. Gay people do not want to sleep with children. Straight people do not want to sleep with children. _Pedophiles_ want to sleep with children, and and pedophiles [overwhelmingly identify as heterosexual](https://stopabusecampaign.com/most-sex-abusers-are-heterosexual/). ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/79 "2015-07-16T05:32:25Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > None of the women I know are attracted to boys; they are attracted to men. Same with all the gay men I know: they are attracted to men. I was unaware that the we were restricting the discussion to people you know personally. But surely you are aware there are, in fact, adults who do like to have sex with children, right? > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Why do you think all adult gay men and all adult women are attracted to young boys? :dubious: I don’t. And said no such thing. How about if you limit your responses to things I actually say? Something tells me that might be a nit more productive. Now tell me, who do you think is more likely to want to have sex with a 13 year old boy, someone who is sexually attracted to males or someone who is not sexually attracted to males? And who do you think is more likely to want to have sex with a 13 year old girl, someone who is sexually attracted to females or someone who is not sexually attracted to females? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/80 "2015-07-16T05:47:56Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Yes, he is. That’s exactly what he’s doing, and he’s doing it very deliberately. “Gays are a threat to our children,” is one of the oldest homophobic slurs out there. And that might explain your knee-jerk reaction. But that doesn’t mean that’s what he was doing. As I just asked in my previous post: Who do you think is more likely to want to have sex with a 13 year old boy, someone who is sexually attracted to males or someone who is not sexually attracted to males? And who do you think is more likely to want to have sex with a 13 year old girl, someone who is sexually attracted to females or someone who is not sexually attracted to females? > [@Miller](#): > > No, it’s not reasonable. Gay people do not want to sleep with children. Straight people do not want to sleep with children. _Pedophiles_ want to sleep with children, and and pedophiles [overwhelmingly identify as heterosexual](https://stopabusecampaign.com/most-sex-abusers-are-heterosexual/). First, your cite merely goes to dispel the myth that all those who abuse children are gay. I don’t doubt the veracity of that claim. But do you deny that there is some subset of people, both straight and gay, who want to have sex with someone under age? Do you also agree that the predilection to be attracted to young children is different from the predilection to be attracted to teens? I know you do because I know you know the difference between pedophilia and ebophilia. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052.md?page=5)