# Scott Walker is in **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 13, 2015, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052 "2015-07-13T13:52:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/81 "2015-07-16T05:48:18Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > I was unaware that the we were restricting the discussion to people you know personally. But surely you are aware there are, in fact, adults who do like to have sex with children, right? Yes. Are you aware that being gay and being a pedophile are two different, unrelated things? Because you aren’t coming across as if you understand that. > [@magellan01](#): > > I don’t. And said no such thing. How about if you limit your responses to things I actually say? Something tells me that might be a nit more productive. I did limit my response to something you actually said. You offered no qualifiers attached to “women and gay men” or to “man or lesbians”. Your reference to “women and gay men” was in defining “adults that are attracted to boys”. Really, you wrote it, and it’s right there above to read in it’s entirety. If you didn’t mean “all women and gay men are adults that are attracted to boys”, you wrote very poorly. > [@magellan01](#): > > Now tell me, who do you think is more likely to want to have sex with a 13 year old boy, someone who is sexually attracted to males or someone who is not sexually attracted to males? > > And who do you think is more likely to want to have sex with a 13 year old girl, someone who is sexually attracted to females or someone who is not sexually attracted to females? Cite? Got a cite? Because **Miller** had a cite, and it says you’re wrong. You aren’t looking good in this exchange, that’s for sure. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/82 "2015-07-16T06:07:14Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Yes. Are you aware that being gay and being a pedophile are two different, unrelated things? Because you aren’t coming across as if you understand that. Read harder. > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I did limit my response to something you actually said. You offered no qualifiers attached to “women and gay men” or to “man or lesbians”. Your reference to “women and gay men” was in defining “adults that are attracted to boys”. Really, you wrote it, and it’s right there above to read in it’s entirety. If you didn’t mean “all women and gay men are adults that are attracted to boys”, you wrote very poorly. No, I just might have, evidently, given readers too much credit. Do you think that if I wanted to make the extreme, absolute claim of “all”, I might have included that word? This is a very childish semantic game your playing and I have no interest in playing. Go apply this level of analysis and reasonableness to Trump’s statements, because I’m sure that you’re of the mind that he meant that every single Mexican was a rapist. :rolleyes: But tell me, does that mean every single Mexican ever born? You get right on that, okay? > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Cite? Got a cite? Because **Miller** had a cite, and it says you’re wrong. First, I said I do NOT doubt the veracity of the claim made in Miller’s cite. Second, you’re wrong here because Miller’s cite does not define “children” and makes no distinction between pedophilia and ebophilia. > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > You aren’t looking good in this exchange, that’s for sure. Ha. If you think I give any weight to your estimation of how I might look at any time, you are very, very sadly mistaken. But if you think you’re winning something, good for you. Maybe you should pat yourself on the back and put a gold star on your lapel. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/83 "2015-07-16T06:52:53Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > First, your cite merely goes to dispel the myth that all those who abuse children are gay. I don’t doubt the veracity of that claim. But do you deny that there is some subset of people, both straight and gay, who want to have sex with someone under age? Do you also agree that the predilection to be attracted to young children is different from the predilection to be attracted to teens? I know you do because I know you know the difference between pedophilia and ebophilia. Nah, that’s a fair point. I was thinking of Boy Scouts as primarily an organization for younger kids, but I realized I was confusing it with Cub Scouts. There are sixteen and seventeen year old Boy Scouts, and lusting after a sixteen year old doesn’t make you a pedo. Skeevy as fuck, but not a pedo. I still say that Walker was deliberately playing to overt homophobes with that speech, though. Can’t prove it, obviously, and I’m definitely influenced by my overall impression of Walker as a human-shaped turd in a three piece suit, but I have very little doubt what he was trying to do there. Apparently, [Walker is now claiming that by “protecting the children,” he meant “protect them from media scrutiny.”](http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/walker-backtracks-on-reaction-to-gay-boy-scout-leaders-120166.html) Whatever our respective opinions on Walker’s original statement, can we agree that that’s a hilariously inept attempt at spin? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/84 "2015-07-16T11:48:07Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > :rolleyes: He’s doing no such thing. Isn’t it reasonable that a greatER threat to kids would come from overnights and such with adults that are attracted to boys? That means women and gay men. Women and gay men aren’t attracted to boys, they’re attracted to men. And no, there’s no greater threat overnight from women or gay men. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/85 "2015-07-16T13:06:37Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Nah, that’s a fair point. I was thinking of Boy Scouts as primarily an organization for younger kids, but I realized I was confusing it with Cub Scouts. There are sixteen and seventeen year old Boy Scouts, and lusting after a sixteen year old doesn’t make you a pedo. Skeevy as fuck, but not a pedo. > > I still say that Walker was deliberately playing to overt homophobes with that speech, though. Can’t prove it, obviously, and I’m definitely influenced by my overall impression of Walker as a human-shaped turd in a three piece suit, but I have very little doubt what he was trying to do there. > > Apparently, [Walker is now claiming that by “protecting the children,” he meant “protect them from media scrutiny.”](http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/walker-backtracks-on-reaction-to-gay-boy-scout-leaders-120166.html) Whatever our respective opinions on Walker’s original statement, can we agree that that’s a hilariously inept attempt at spin? Inept? I say wonderfully creative! 😉 Yeah, we are in complete agreement on your last point. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/86 "2015-07-16T13:24:39Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > “Tonette” Walker? Who names their daughter “Tonette” ? She sounds like an ocarina. > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Doo-wop singers would name their daughter Tonette. Or extremely large people. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/87 "2015-07-16T15:44:54Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Read harder. Write better. > [@magellan01](#): > > No, I just might have, evidently, given readers too much credit. Do you think that if I wanted to make the extreme, absolute claim of “all”, I might have included that word? This is a very childish semantic game your playing and I have no interest in playing. Go apply this level of analysis and reasonableness to Trump’s statements, because I’m sure that you’re of the mind that he meant that every single Mexican was a rapist. :rolleyes: But tell me, does that mean every single Mexican ever born? You get right on that, okay? You wrote the words, I just read them. If you didn’t mean “all”, you should have offered that qualifier. You didn’t, and it’s reasonable to assume you meant “all women and gay men”; in fact, as I showed, it’s implied. If you don’t want to be misunderstood, improve your communication skills. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/88 "2015-07-16T15:56:50Z")
Don’t get too nervous about a Walker presidency, fellow commie-pinko-Wobbly-fellow travelers. (secret hand signal) America will NEVER accept a President with a wandering eye. In an age where pop singers, concert violinists, and even novelists have to be physically beautiful, we will never see another ugly or “funny-looking” chief executive. The last total beast to win the office was Nixon. Also, America will never accept a First Lady called “Tonette.” ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/89 "2015-07-16T16:07:23Z")
Walker doesn’t seem like my cup of tea but the Wisonsin Supreme Court just issued a beat-down regarding the investigation into Walker and his allies. > **[Wisconsin Supreme Court Axes Walker Investigation](https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2015/07/16/gop-candidate-walker-awaits-ruling-on-2012-recall-probe)** > > Court cites free speech in decision, considered a major victory for Walker.  ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@Troy\_McClure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/90 "2015-07-16T18:47:33Z")
Yes, well there’s the little problem that the Supreme Court justices themselves have benefited substantially from the campaign tactics they were being asked to rule against: [http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/supreme-court-ends-john-doe-probe-that-threatened-scott-walker/article\_50f22c3b-27c9-5906-92e8-ded75ed50954.html](http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/supreme-court-ends-john-doe-probe-that-threatened-scott-walker/article_50f22c3b-27c9-5906-92e8-ded75ed50954.html) > [@](#): > > Some good-government groups questioned whether the four-member conservative majority, who benefited from a combined $8 million in outside spending by three groups targeted in the second John Doe probe, also should recuse. > > Club for Growth, Citizens for a Strong America and Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce spent millions to support the candidacies of Prosser, Roggensack, Ziegler and Gableman over the last eight years. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/91 "2015-07-16T22:22:16Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > :rolleyes: He’s doing no such thing. Isn’t it reasonable that a greatER threat to kids would come from overnights and such with adults that are attracted to boys? That means women and gay men. The same would be true for girl scouts…man and lesbians. Now, if you want to argue that women should be able to go on overnights with boy scouts and men should be able to go on overnights with girl scouts, you’re free to make that argument. Where do you get the idea that gay men are attracted to boys any more than straight men are attracted to girls? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/92 "2015-07-28T01:26:34Z")
[Scott Walker’s latest “idea” is to make the EPA into something stupid > [@](#): > > While Walker said he would not eliminate the EPA if elected president, he would shift its powers and resources to state environmental agencies such as Wisconsin’s Department of Natural Resources. > > In an interview with the Washington Examiner, and later during a campaign stop in Chicago, Walker said the proper role for the EPA is to serve as a mediator to resolve disputes between such state agencies. > > The EPA, Walker said, should become “an umbrella organization that really is limited to mediating interstate conflicts over, say, where a body of water or a piece of land goes through multiple states.” ]([http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ec6edfe97fdb4b74bd18984eb31c34f9/walker-says-epa-should-be-limited-umbrella-organization](http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ec6edfe97fdb4b74bd18984eb31c34f9/walker-says-epa-should-be-limited-umbrella-organization)) That’s stupid for at least 50 reasons: [ > [@](#): > > Lisa Heinzerling, a law professor at Georgetown University and former EPA associate administrator, said Walker’s approach would instead result in 50 different air quality standards and 50 different states conducting basic scientific research to support environmental protection. > > “If Gov. Walker really does desire meaningful environmental protection in this country, taking power from EPA and giving it to all 50 states is a very silly way to achieve it,” she said. “His idea is a really inefficient, and almost certainly ineffective, way of protecting the environment.” ]([http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ec6edfe97fdb4b74bd18984eb31c34f9/walker-says-epa-should-be-limited-umbrella-organization](http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ec6edfe97fdb4b74bd18984eb31c34f9/walker-says-epa-should-be-limited-umbrella-organization)) ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/93 "2015-07-28T07:14:24Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Where do you get the idea that gay men are attracted to boys any more than straight men are attracted to girls? I have no idea where you got that impression from. It is not an argument I have put forth nor something I believe. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/94 "2015-08-06T15:01:08Z")
[Former UW chancellor offers lament for Wisconsin](http://m.channel3000.com/madison-magazine/business-city-life/Former-UW-chancellor-offers-lament-for-Wisconsin/34421426) > [@](#): > > My personal career at Wisconsin is irrelevant to the story, so I won’t recount it, except to say that I believe I am the only person ever to have been a student, a faculty member, a department chair, an associate dean, a dean, vice chancellor/provost and chancellor at the University of Wisconsin. That’s not a boast; it’s just a fact, and maybe an indication that I might have learned along the way a little bit about how the university operates, how it stays where it is and what can ruin it. What really matters, though, are the statewide changes I have observed in a forty-year career at UW–Madison. In a nutshell, almost everything that once made Wisconsin seem like a promised land is being systematically stripped away and discarded. That process has been tragically accelerated under Governor Scott Walker. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/95 "2015-08-08T15:19:14Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > And also – recalling the thread about it in GD – how much he also hates universities and all institutions of higher learning and the academics that inhabit them. And by extension, how much he hates science and fact-based reality. > > But he’s not only a hater, he’s also a lover. He loves the Koch brothers, and he loves their money even more. > > Sounds like an ideal candidate! Plus: God has a plan for him: > **['God's Calling': Scott Walker Tells Supporters Presidential Campaign Is...](https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/2015/07/_god_s_calling_scott_walker_tells_his_supporters_his_presidential_campaign_is_god_s_plan/)** > > Scott Walker, who officially announced he is running for president today, says it's "God's calling" and "God's plan" for him. Really? Really. ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/96 "2015-08-08T16:33:39Z")
Making a good showing in the debate must not have been part of God’s plan. Walker is OK, but offers nothing to distinguish himself. He will not be the nominee and he brings nothing to a ticket as VP. Crane ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/97 "2015-08-08T20:33:41Z")
Funny thing…Ted Cruz says he gets messages from God every day. Sarah Palin said God wanted her to run for office. GWB said God wanted him to go to war. Rick Santorum, Walker, and who knows how many others were/are all convinced that they are on a mission from God. I wish someone would really dig in with the questions at one of these debates or panels: If God wants all of you to run, is he just testing you and sorting you out? Maybe God only wants one of you to run and the others just got their wires crossed. Is that it? So who is the chosen one? Maybe God doesn’t really want any of you to run, but you think so because you’re delusional. Possible? WTF is Trump doing in this race? Seriously? ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_blistering_barnacle/32/3386_2.png) [@Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blue_Blistering_Barnacle)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/98 "2015-08-08T23:47:13Z")
> [@vivalostwages](#): > > Funny thing…Ted Cruz says he gets messages from God every day. > Sarah Palin said God wanted her to run for office. > GWB said God wanted him to go to war. > Rick Santorum, Walker, and who knows how many others were/are all convinced that they are on a mission from God. > > I wish someone would really dig in with the questions at one of these debates or panels: > > If God wants all of you to run, is he just testing you and sorting you out? > > Maybe God only wants one of you to run and the others just got their wires crossed. Is that it? So who is the chosen one? > > Maybe God doesn’t really want any of you to run, but you think so because you’re delusional. Possible? > > WTF is Trump doing in this race? Seriously? He works in mysterious ways. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/99 "2015-08-10T15:50:21Z")
God really does talk to all of them. God has a sick, mischievous sense of humor. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052/100 "2015-08-10T16:20:48Z")
Yep, god called all these people, it’s just that they were all prank calls. **God:** Hey Scott, is your refrigerator running? \*\*Scott Walker: \*\* Yes \*\*God: \*\* Then maybe you’d better run and catch it! Ha Ha _click_ \*\*Scott Walker: \*\* God just told me to run! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scott-walker-is-in/725052.md?page=6)