# SCOTUS punts on SSM! Gay marriages soon legal in 30 states

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-punts-on-ssm-gay-marriages-soon-legal-in-30-states/700551>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 6, 2014, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-punts-on-ssm-gay-marriages-soon-legal-in-30-states/700551 "2014-10-06T15:12:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-punts-on-ssm-gay-marriages-soon-legal-in-30-states/700551/1 "2014-10-06T15:12:19Z")

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[Breaking news](http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-declines-to-review-same-sex-marriage-cases/2014/10/06/ee822848-4d5e-11e4-babe-e91da079cb8a_story.html).

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> The Supreme Court decided not to review rulings that cleared the way for same-sex marriage in Virginia, Utah, Oklahoma, Indiana and Wisconsin on Monday, meaning marriages can take place there immediately.

After 25 years of living together “in sin” my sister and her partner can now get married and finally make honest women out of them.

Wow, we didn’t see that coming.

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**Author:** ![DrumBum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e79b87/32.png) [@DrumBum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrumBum)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-punts-on-ssm-gay-marriages-soon-legal-in-30-states/700551/2 "2014-10-06T17:01:45Z")

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> [@TokyoBayer](#):
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> [Breaking news](http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-declines-to-review-same-sex-marriage-cases/2014/10/06/ee822848-4d5e-11e4-babe-e91da079cb8a_story.html). After 25 years of living together “in sin” my sister and her partner can now get married and finally make honest women out of them.
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> Wow, we didn’t see that coming.

I would think “living in sin” would certainly be much more fun than being “honest women.” 😃

Congratulations to your sister and her partner.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-punts-on-ssm-gay-marriages-soon-legal-in-30-states/700551/3 "2014-10-06T17:17:59Z")

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Hooray!

> [@DrumBum](#):
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> I would think “living in sin” would certainly be much more fun than being “honest women.” 😃

Personally, I like to think of being married as just easier access to sin. 😃

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-punts-on-ssm-gay-marriages-soon-legal-in-30-states/700551/4 "2014-10-06T17:24:16Z")

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Salt Lake County is ready now to issue marriage licenses.

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-punts-on-ssm-gay-marriages-soon-legal-in-30-states/700551/5 "2014-10-06T17:32:49Z")

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Yay!

> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Personally, I like to think of being married as just easier access to sin. 😃

Personally, I don’t think of sex as sinful. 🙂

And yes, I’m aware of how “non-approved marriage arrangements” somehow got narrowed down to “sex”. 🙂

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-punts-on-ssm-gay-marriages-soon-legal-in-30-states/700551/6 "2014-10-06T19:27:11Z")

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I actually saw this on Facebook, of all places. Not anyone announcing it, just in the upper right corner. They surprisingly do a good job of just showing somewhat important news (even if it’s amongst a lot of celebrity stuff.)

FYI, this is also being discussed in this [unfortunately named GD thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=736481), if you want more info. I do like the idea of having a separate MPSIMS thread, though.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-punts-on-ssm-gay-marriages-soon-legal-in-30-states/700551/7 "2014-10-07T00:22:08Z")

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And as usual, Ohio is left back in the Neanderthal age.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-punts-on-ssm-gay-marriages-soon-legal-in-30-states/700551/8 "2014-10-07T13:09:53Z")

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I think the best thing about this is how unremarkable it is. I don’t get Fox News or AM radio, so I’m spared the anguish and hand wringing, but it’s not the huge bang I thought it would be. Pretty anticlimactic.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-punts-on-ssm-gay-marriages-soon-legal-in-30-states/700551/9 "2014-10-07T14:57:53Z")

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> [@TokyoBayer](#):
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> I don’t get Fox News or AM radio, so I’m spared the anguish and hand wringing

Aw, but the wailings and gnashings of teeth are the best part! 😛

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-punts-on-ssm-gay-marriages-soon-legal-in-30-states/700551/10 "2014-10-07T15:12:14Z")

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So when do the circuit court rulings begin to apply to the whole circuit?

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-punts-on-ssm-gay-marriages-soon-legal-in-30-states/700551/11 "2014-10-07T15:21:06Z")

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If I understand correctly, they already apply to the whole circuit. The argument I believe states like Wyoming and South Carolina are making is that the circuit court ruling applies to those other states’ suits but their’s is different enough to require its own ruling and the question will be if the circuit courts agree or not.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-punts-on-ssm-gay-marriages-soon-legal-in-30-states/700551/12 "2014-10-07T15:55:46Z")

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At this point it’s all just footdragging. Maybe some states will give it up at this point.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2014, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-punts-on-ssm-gay-marriages-soon-legal-in-30-states/700551/13 "2014-10-08T04:12:16Z")

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Congrats to Tokyo Bayer’s sister and future (legal) sister-in-law.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2014, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-punts-on-ssm-gay-marriages-soon-legal-in-30-states/700551/14 "2014-10-08T08:12:09Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Aw, but the wailings and gnashings of teeth are the best part! 😛

I know, I can’t wait until Texas gets the slap down. The schadenfreude will be particularly tasty that day.
