# SCOTUS Wife Virginia Thomas asks Anita Hill to apologize - WTF? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 20, 2010, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-wife-virginia-thomas-asks-anita-hill-to-apologize-wtf/557798 "2010-10-20T16:56:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-wife-virginia-thomas-asks-anita-hill-to-apologize-wtf/557798/661 "2010-10-27T18:26:38Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Unless the disreputable source sent him the quote _with the cite_ That’s \*exactly \*what I’m suggesting, as the _absolute best-case scenario_. Some righty blog or email chain or newsletter or shit scrawled on the wall of a men’s room gave the bogus quote with the bogus cite, and he passed it on because it was so juicy, without bothering to ascertain the veracity, because it was just too useful even if it was a lie, and who checks up on those things anyway. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-wife-virginia-thomas-asks-anita-hill-to-apologize-wtf/557798/662 "2010-10-27T18:38:37Z")
Hmmm. **Shodan, Starving Artist** , and **Scylla.** All start with “S”! And “S” is the nineteenth letter of the alphabet! Steely Dan had a hit with “Hey, Nineteen!” Connect the dot, people! ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-wife-virginia-thomas-asks-anita-hill-to-apologize-wtf/557798/663 "2010-10-27T19:55:42Z")
**Shodan** - any response? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-wife-virginia-thomas-asks-anita-hill-to-apologize-wtf/557798/664 "2010-10-27T20:10:23Z")
Remember, this is a guy who believes we actually found Saddam’s WMD’s. Lincoln was right, you can fool some people all of the time. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-wife-virginia-thomas-asks-anita-hill-to-apologize-wtf/557798/665 "2010-10-27T20:19:36Z")
It wouldn’t surprise me if Shodan’s “defense” of the quote was simply to attack and insult those doing the questioning. It’s hardly a unique pattern around here when people get called on falsehoods. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-wife-virginia-thomas-asks-anita-hill-to-apologize-wtf/557798/666 "2010-10-27T20:23:47Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > So I think the only rational takeback from this is that Shodan is a lying, scumbag piece of shit. It didn’t take this thread to realize that, though, did it? Because if so, some people are very slow learners. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-wife-virginia-thomas-asks-anita-hill-to-apologize-wtf/557798/667 "2010-10-27T20:24:02Z")
That’s why I am trying to do this in a civilized, honest fashion. No name calling, nothing. As I said, I hope I am wrong on this, and will apologize if I am. I would just like an explanation of how I am wrong. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-wife-virginia-thomas-asks-anita-hill-to-apologize-wtf/557798/668 "2010-10-27T20:34:46Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > It wouldn’t surprise me if Shodan’s “defense” of the quote was simply to attack and insult those doing the questioning. It’s hardly a unique pattern around here when people get called on falsehoods. In a close second place is claiming it was just a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-wife-virginia-thomas-asks-anita-hill-to-apologize-wtf/557798/669 "2010-10-27T20:42:02Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > In a close second place is claiming it was just a joke. Third place would be to run away like a cowardly bitch until people forget. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-wife-virginia-thomas-asks-anita-hill-to-apologize-wtf/557798/670 "2010-10-27T20:46:41Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > In a close second place is claiming it was just a joke. Yeah… So, _where_ were those 9/11 perps safely based again? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-wife-virginia-thomas-asks-anita-hill-to-apologize-wtf/557798/671 "2010-10-27T21:16:46Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > I think I understand Shodan’s problem. … Everything must be distilled to a binary statement. … Isn’t **Shodan** one of those early model Chinese robots? The Hyperdine System’s 120-A2? Well, that explains it then. The A2s always were a bit twitchy. CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-wife-virginia-thomas-asks-anita-hill-to-apologize-wtf/557798/672 "2010-10-27T21:21:04Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Isn’t **Shodan** one of those early model Chinese robots? > The Hyperdine System’s 120-A2? > Well, that explains it then. The A2s always were a bit twitchy. > > CMC fnord! Nobody told me there was a Shodan on this messageboard, why not? ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-wife-virginia-thomas-asks-anita-hill-to-apologize-wtf/557798/673 "2010-10-27T21:36:37Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Hmmm. **Shodan, Starving Artist** , and **Scylla.** All start with “S”! And “S” is the nineteenth letter of the alphabet! Steely Dan had a hit with “Hey, Nineteen!” > > Connect the dot, people! \*\*Shodan \*\*is a vibrator? > [@villa](#): > > **Shodan** - any response? Of course not. But bless you for reminding us all of his deafening silence. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-wife-virginia-thomas-asks-anita-hill-to-apologize-wtf/557798/674 "2010-10-27T21:41:13Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > \*\*Shodan \*\*is a vibrator? Well. That puts a new spin on System Shock. > [@](#): > > Look at you, hacker: a pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting and sweating as you run through my corridors. How can you challenge a perfect, immortal machine? ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-wife-virginia-thomas-asks-anita-hill-to-apologize-wtf/557798/675 "2010-10-27T21:46:14Z")
I’m pretty sure that SHODAN is female, too. ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-wife-virginia-thomas-asks-anita-hill-to-apologize-wtf/557798/676 "2010-10-27T22:12:14Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > She has no corroboration and Thomas has numerous character witnesses . Lie. She had numerous witneses and Clarence Thomas’ ‘character witnesses’ were mostly partisan hacks. Some of them corroborated Hill’s testimony. ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-wife-virginia-thomas-asks-anita-hill-to-apologize-wtf/557798/677 "2010-10-27T22:19:09Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > And in a related note… inasmuch as Ms. Hill apparently teaches law, I wonder if the FBI had to explain to her that there is no violation of federal law committed by calling someone and asking for an apology. Are you trying to be that stupid? Or do you flinch from finding information like a vampire flinches from garlic? Anita Hill’s been subjected to harassment and bullshit for close to twenty years. In article after fucking article, which you could have bothered to read, she stated that she thought it was some kind of prank or security issue—I haven’t read this in a few days and the sheer victim-blaming bullshit in this thread is getting heavy—and so turned it over to security. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-wife-virginia-thomas-asks-anita-hill-to-apologize-wtf/557798/678 "2010-10-27T22:30:46Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Yeah… > So, _where_ were those 9/11 perps safely based again? And then there are the terminally lame, unable to get a point no matter how clearly explained, and oddly proud of that fact. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-wife-virginia-thomas-asks-anita-hill-to-apologize-wtf/557798/679 "2010-10-27T22:32:40Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > You’re attacking **Brickers** hypothetical because it contains _certain beliefs built in_ to it? Aren’t they suppose to be suppositional or conditional argumnents? Can you read? He likes to put forth this idea that he is fair and the ultimate in logical, impartial debaters, yet in this thread he has used a hypothetical which has as its basis that Anita Hill is a lying bitch, and that the rape of an underage girl is comparable to a guy being justly dinged for sexual harassment. The thing that strikes me is that nobody who criticizes Anita Hill for her action or lack thereof as Thomas’ employee seems to recognize the position she was in at the time. He was the Chairman of the EEOC. He was in charge of the federal agency in charge of investigating, punishing, and ultimately reducing sexual harassment. Who was she going to report him to? Himself? I’m still waiting for Shodan to put up a legitimate cite instead of muttering vaguely about Wiki and making huge leaps in logic about what got her her book contract and how much money she makes. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scotus-wife-virginia-thomas-asks-anita-hill-to-apologize-wtf/557798/680 "2010-10-27T22:35:35Z")
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