# Scream (1996) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 17, 2018, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scream-1996/806794 "2018-01-17T02:47:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![A\_Dodgy\_Dude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a87d85/32.png) [@A\_Dodgy\_Dude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_Dodgy_Dude)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scream-1996/806794/1 "2018-01-17T02:47:25Z")
So we all know who the kill turned out to be. But how does the killer’s motive explain killing Drew Barrymore at the start? ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scream-1996/806794/2 "2018-01-17T03:15:20Z")
Didn’t she dump Stu for the guy who gets cut open by the pool? ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scream-1996/806794/3 "2018-01-17T03:29:25Z")
She lied about never having been kissed. Sorry. I know it doesn’t have anything to do with the movie Scream except for that’s what I wanted to do during that whole movie- scream “LIAR!” at the screen. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scream-1996/806794/4 "2018-01-17T18:00:16Z")
It was a formula. The first kill doesn’t need to be tied to the killer’s main motive. On a practical level they may have been playtesting everything - the voice modulator, their choreography, etc. If they called and said “Do you like scary movies?” and she said “…wait, is this Stu?” then they knew they needed to fix something. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scream-1996/806794/5 "2018-01-17T18:06:01Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > She lied about never having been kissed. > Sorry. I know it doesn’t have anything to do with the movie Scream except for that’s what I wanted to do during that whole movie- scream “LIAR!” at the screen. How did she lie again? I don’t remember that from the movie. ---
**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scream-1996/806794/6 "2018-01-17T19:06:13Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > How did she lie again? I don’t remember that from the movie. I suspect they are riffing on Drew’s other movie “Never Been Kissed”. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scream-1996/806794/7 "2018-01-17T19:20:14Z")
> [@Poysyn](#): > > I suspect they are riffing on Drew’s other movie “Never Been Kissed”. Sure, but it seems like the thought is Drew was lying in “Never Been Kissed” And from all the times I…uh a friend, watched that movie, that never seemed to come up. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scream-1996/806794/8 "2018-01-17T19:58:23Z")
I will apologize again **Dodgy** , for taking this thread in a direction you did not want. The lie of the movie Never Been Kissed is in the title. And the premise. The whole movie is a lie. There is no way on Zeus’ blue planet that Drew Barrymore made it to the ripe old age of 25 without having been kissed. Also, there is no way the character Jessie in the movie made it to the ripe age of 25 without any male attention as portrayed in the movie. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scream-1996/806794/9 "2018-01-17T20:01:31Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > I will apologize again **Dodgy** , for taking this thread in a direction you did not want. > > The lie of the movie Never Been Kissed is in the title. And the premise. The whole movie is a lie. There is no way on Zeus’ blue planet that Drew Barrymore made it to the ripe old age of 25 without having been kissed. Also, there is no way the character Jessie in the movie made it to the ripe age of 25 without any male attention as portrayed in the movie. I likewise apologize. Also, I’m not sure if it’s me, or I’m being whooshed, or what, but almost nothing you wrote here makes sense to me. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scream-1996/806794/10 "2018-01-17T20:26:41Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I likewise apologize. > > Also, I’m not sure if it’s me, or I’m being whooshed, or what, but almost nothing you wrote here makes sense to me. She is saying the premise of the film is implausible, because Drew Barrymore is an attractive 25 year old. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scream-1996/806794/11 "2018-01-17T21:04:10Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > She is saying the premise of the film is implausible, because Drew Barrymore is an attractive 25 year old. I don’t see how the attractiveness of the actor playing a role has any bearing on the looks of the character, especially when she is specifically made up most of her life as an ugly, nerdy person. Not that big of a deal, just never heard that opinion on this movie before. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scream-1996/806794/12 "2018-01-17T23:11:25Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > She is saying the premise of the film is implausible, because Drew Barrymore is an attractive 25 year old. Not only was Drew far too attractive but the actual character in the movie was also too smart, attractive and personable to be the unwanted social pariah she was supposed to be in the movie. And yes, if you are playing a character no guy wants to kiss, then you should look the part. ---
**Author:** ![edwards\_beard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@edwards\_beard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwards_beard)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scream-1996/806794/13 "2018-01-18T00:23:08Z")
In response to the OP, I always thought it was psychological torture. They killed Casey (Drew B) and her boyfriend. Casey was in Sydney’s (Neve C) home room, on the anniversary of her mother being murdered. Once she got scared because of that they started toying with her. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scream-1996/806794/14 "2018-01-18T20:57:11Z")
> [@A\_Dodgy\_Dude](#): > > So we all know who the kill turned out to be. But how does the killer’s motive explain killing Drew Barrymore at the start? She had dumped one of the killers (iirc, Matt Lillard’s character) for the new guy, killed by the pool. The opener is once of my favorite performances by Barrymore, and the strongest opener of the period after the set-up for _Cliffhanger_. As for _Never Been Kissed_, I only saw the movie once, back when it was in theaters, but doesn’t Drew’s opening voice-over explain that she’s talking about a specific type of romantic kiss, rather than just general kissing? I recall them getting out ahead of that complaint from the jump, but maybe I’m misremembering. ---
**Author:** ![A\_Dodgy\_Dude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a87d85/32.png) [@A\_Dodgy\_Dude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_Dodgy_Dude)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scream-1996/806794/15 "2018-01-18T23:58:05Z")
> [@](#): > > I will apologize again Dodgy, for taking this thread in a direction you did not want. Don’t worry about it, biggirl. I’d forgotten about this thread about an hour after I posted it (as I usually do around here.) ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scream-1996/806794/16 "2018-01-19T00:46:55Z")
> [@epbrown01](#): > > As for _Never Been Kissed_, I only saw the movie once, back when it was in theaters, but doesn’t Drew’s opening voice-over explain that she’s talking about a specific type of romantic kiss, rather than just general kissing? I recall them getting out ahead of that complaint from the jump, but maybe I’m misremembering. Plus, she is made up during her school years and immediately after as someone dorky, shy, introverted, and unattractive. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scream-1996/806794/17 "2018-01-21T03:14:56Z")
They were just having fun and trying out their material/methods before going after Sydney. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scream-1996/806794/18 "2018-01-25T00:50:27Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > She lied about never having been kissed. > Sorry. I know it doesn’t have anything to do with the movie Scream except for that’s what I wanted to do during that whole movie- scream “LIAR!” at the screen. Never Been Kissed didn’t come out until three years later. Did you have a psychic vision or really foot drag seeing Scream? ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scream-1996/806794/19 "2018-01-25T00:59:04Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > Never Been Kissed didn’t come out until three years later. Did you have a psychic vision or really foot drag seeing Scream? I did not see Scream in the movies. I never go to movies as I am cheap and I know I can see them for free if I’m patient.