# Screamers Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 21, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938 "2009-09-21T13:16:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 100
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1981 "2009-10-25T19:47:46Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > So my suggestion, unless the mysterious other investigator can come forward and confirm Alka today, is that we lynch Alka today, lynch Cat tomorrow, and take it from there. I think with two Screamers already down, we have the elbow room to do this. Nice plan to remove a confirmed townie and give scum an extra night kill (and SK, if we have one). ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1982 "2009-10-25T19:52:24Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Whoa, what? You really think this is a likely scenario? I suppose we can see what **CatInASuit** has to say for himself. **Alka** ’s leader vote for **himself** does seem a little over-eager, doesn’t it? I had planned to vote for him as he did a great job yesterDay but now I’m not so sure. Does anyone know if it’s possible that **Daphne** blocked the SK (or Vig?), was then killed herself (by Scum?), but her block still prevented the SK (or Vig?) from doing his job? I’m not sure how game mechanics affect the the night actions of a player who is killed during the night. Otherwise we’d have a 3rd roleblocker, right? ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1983 "2009-10-25T20:06:54Z")
> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#): > > Nice plan to remove a confirmed townie and give scum an extra night kill (and SK, if we have one). Who’s the confirmed Townie? I thought **Alka** confirmed **Gryff** and **Boozy** but they haven’t confirmed **Alka** ’s alignment, only his power (stealing). In fact **Gryff** has tried to distance himself **Alka** until an eventual investigator can confirm him as Town. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1984 "2009-10-25T20:08:19Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Whoa, what? You really think this is a likely scenario? No. I don’t think it’s LIKELY. However, I think it’s _possible_, and if so it could be fatal tonight. How do you know for sure that Alka is Town? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1985 "2009-10-25T20:09:20Z")
Incidentally, I’m reasonably sure that Cat IS scum. And that we should kill him as fast as possible. (By lynch or vig). ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1986 "2009-10-25T20:11:47Z")
Oh, I’m sure we’re all planning on killing **Cat**. We just have to get through this whole leader shebang first. This may mercifully be a short Day. Interesting that **Cat** was the one you left off your list of likely scum above. I know you NETAed to add him, but funny nonetheless. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1987 "2009-10-25T20:15:00Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > Oh, I’m sure we’re all planning on killing **Cat**. We just have to get through this whole leader shebang first. This may mercifully be a short Day. > > Interesting that **Cat** was the one you left off your list of likely scum above. I know you NETAed to add him, but funny nonetheless. Interesting that I voted him on Day 2, did a wall of words where I found him somewhat suspicious on Night 2, and in fact DID NETA to add him to the list on Night 3. ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1988 "2009-10-25T20:16:32Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > I suppose we can see what **CatInASuit** has to say for himself. What CatInASuit has to say is irrelevant, as he is scum. > [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Does anyone know if it’s possible that **Daphne** blocked the SK (or Vig?), was then killed herself (by Scum?), but her block still prevented the SK (or Vig?) from doing his job? I’m not sure how game mechanics affect the the night actions of a player who is killed during the night. Otherwise we’d have a 3rd roleblocker, right? You mean 4th roleblocker. If Daphne was NK’ed I don’t know if her block would go through or not. The other possibilities are that 2 killers targeted Daphne (which is plausable if we have an SK), or we have a non-compulsive vig. > [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Who’s the confirmed Townie? CatInASuit’s death will confirm me. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1989 "2009-10-25T20:20:52Z")
And I wanted to have this in my back pocket for today so I could see who jumped on the bandwagon, but given current circumstances: If I am scum, why did I do [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11672377&postcount=1590) Wall of Words on **amrussell** , concluding that she was extremely likely to be Town, on Night 2? It wasn’t a me-too post, it was an original argument; it addressed a player who was likely to face some heat the next day. Yes, she died on Night 2, but are you seriously going to tell me that the scum decided to night-kill a random townie, and one likely to face serious heat the next day if only for **Thing Fish** ’s dying OMGUS against her, when they had a claimed doctor who was apparently no longer likely to be lynched in their sights? AND that the serial killer or vig decided that Peeker was the guy they wanted to use their night kill on? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1990 "2009-10-25T20:22:38Z")
> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#): > > CatInASuit’s death will confirm me. No, it won’t. But if we are all still alive tomorrow Morning, I will consider you confirmed. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1991 "2009-10-25T20:35:49Z")
In other news, the mods say I can’t play the interesting message on my music box in public. Without mod-confirmation there’s no reason for me to do so, so I’ll send it on to someone tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1992 "2009-10-25T20:39:57Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > there will be…a few…evil **ish** roles. Also, there may or may not be a third party or multiple third parties. What that we’ve seen so far has been an evil **ish** role? Freudian, maybe. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1993 "2009-10-25T20:50:38Z")
Yeah, I’d say both **Freudian** and **Daphne** had pretty evilish roles. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1994 "2009-10-25T20:57:47Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > What that we’ve seen so far has been an evil **ish** role? Freudian, maybe. **Freudian** ’s role was extra evilish considering we were told in that [same post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11580793&postcount=21) that there would be no post restrictions in this game… (just a little mistake, I’ve since been told). ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1995 "2009-10-25T21:03:41Z")
BTW, I’m perfectly happy to go walk into the Forbidden Thread without a spacesuit if Town asks me to, but not until Tomorrow so I have a chance to pass on Gryff’s little giftie. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1996 "2009-10-25T21:05:18Z")
Since we can’t elect **Gryff** and based on the case against **CIAS** we \*may \*have a pretty short and uneventful day, I’m happy to: **Elect Boozahol Squid, P.I.** for a second term as leader. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1997 "2009-10-25T21:07:49Z")
I’m okay with that. **elect Boozahol Squid** ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1998 "2009-10-25T21:08:54Z")
You know, it’s funny **Tom** , I was thinking over the Night that your actions after Day’s end seemed very Townie. Then I got to the thread with your suspicion list and thought it was odd that you’d left off **Cat** , then noticed your NETA. And when **Cat** turned up Scum (at least, I’m assuming he’s Scum based on what **Alka** said), I just thought it was really ironic, in an Alanis sort of way. That’s two Scum in a row that you sort-of-promoted. If you’re Town, you are one unfortunate mofo. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1999 "2009-10-25T21:18:35Z")
Just checking in. Oh, yeah, I’m now in Seoul, Korea. Now that is **mod commitment** , people! Mahaloth ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2000 "2009-10-25T21:22:41Z")
If I’m 3rd party, why haven’t I already collected from jpei? Why take a stab into a larger pool of players in an attempt to find the Head Screamer? (If I’d collected from jpei tonight, I’d have had a better chance of finding them after last night’s kills and toDay’s lynch). Why did I claim on day 2, turning myself into a target for NKs and blocks? (If Peeker’s claim had been false, I might have been blocked night 2, preventing me from confirming Gryff). To the evilish roles, we can add Gryff’s tiara and OaOW’s ineligability to be leader. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938.md?page=99) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938.md?page=101)