# Screamers Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 21, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938 "2009-09-21T13:16:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 105
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2081 "2009-10-26T19:03:44Z")
Oh, and money -\> mouth: **vote CatinaSuit** ---
**Author:** ![Gryff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Gryff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gryff)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2082 "2009-10-26T19:15:29Z")
Ditto **vote CatinaSuit** ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2083 "2009-10-26T19:18:24Z")
Yeah, I’m not entirely sure where you’re going with this investigator claim, Cat. Are you an investigator who can determine peopel’s roles? Or are you a semi-investigator who… has a small chance of figuring out who a Godfather is? Why do you assume that there is a second (scummy) Head Screamer, anyways? ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2084 "2009-10-26T19:18:41Z")
**[Vote CIAS** Alka lets see if we can get the Day over tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2085 "2009-10-26T19:21:49Z")
**vote CatinaSuit** ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2086 "2009-10-26T19:24:07Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > Separate thought, more direct: Has **Boozy** stated what his role as Regional Manager does? No, I didn’t. It still wouldn’t be helpful at this juncture. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2087 "2009-10-26T19:40:03Z")
[QUOTE=GuiriEnEspaña] I say to follow our first instinct, test Alka’s theory and lynch him tonight and take his findings for what they’re worth - lucky guesses. The only thing that would change my mind right now is if Alka were to say that he interpreted “Head Screamer” to be scum but his role PM did not explicitly state alignment. [/QUOTE] Planning to do some killing Tonight, eh? In other news… **vote CatInASuit** The mechanics of his role claim don’t make sense to me. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2088 "2009-10-26T19:46:14Z")
Yeah, me either. **vote: CatInASuit** ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2089 "2009-10-26T19:50:12Z")
Where the F is **Alka**? **vote Cat** I really want to know an answer to the question I posed to **Alka** , though… ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2090 "2009-10-26T19:55:33Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > Planning to do some killing Tonight, eh? /snipped Ouch! My NETA wasn’t clear enough… **Vote CatInASuit** ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2091 "2009-10-26T19:56:59Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > /snipped > > Ouch! My NETA wasn’t clear enough… > > **Vote CatInASuit** No it was clear. Even in your NETA you said you’d be lynching ‘tonight’. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2092 "2009-10-26T20:11:27Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > No it was clear. Even in your NETA you said you’d be lynching ‘tonight’. I probably should not leave this unanswered or I’ll be haunted by it later on. My NETA clarified the object pronoun “him” as, although the context referred to **CIAS** , the sentence could have been parsed as referring to **Alka** , who is not the object of the proposed “lynch”. I didn’t see an issue with the time reference as I’m in Spain and the intention was to vote **CIAS** tonight (no capitals), this afternoon for those based in the US. I fully deserve this nit-picking as I’ve done so myself previously ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2093 "2009-10-26T20:49:00Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > No it was clear. Even in your NETA you said you’d be lynching ‘tonight’. I think you’re being a little overaggressive, doc. It’s completely plausible that Guiri meant CIAS with the ‘him’, and considering that a lynch is the start of Night is just as reasonable a way to think of it as any other. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2094 "2009-10-26T20:56:11Z")
How is pointing out a possible slip being overaggressive? I didn’t vote for her or even FOS. Her word choice was bad. In this game the words “day” and “night” have very specific meanings. But she has explained herself and I’m satisfied her comments were benign. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2095 "2009-10-26T21:01:51Z")
Gryff (1): CiaS (7): Scudsy, Gryff, Boozy Squid, USCD., Norm Phase, DB, Guiri It’s a close one! This vote could go any direction! Hold onto your hats, folks! ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2096 "2009-10-26T21:19:53Z")
Just wait until I post my WoW on Mahaloth. ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2097 "2009-10-26T22:47:47Z")
> [@Gryff](#): > > Having watched the movie on the weekend, I feel I have to say that there was a ‘friendly’ screamer in it. That’s interesting, I didn’t know that. > [@Gryff](#): > > **Alka** very specifically mentions three town and one scum. Are you suggesting that he just jumped to the conclusion that the Head Screamer was scum, or does that sound like he was told that is the case in his PM. Checked my role PM. It lists the 3 town roles, and then says the final cache is held by the Head Screamer. Flavour-wise, I can’t dismiss Cat’s claim, but I’m finding it pretty unlikely: - “I was living in the town before the other screamers came.” Why would the Head Screamer be a loner? Head implies underlings. - I don’t see any reason for his partial (and mis-leading) initial claim, where he says he would appear vanilla. Vanilla to who exactly? Daphe was just a role-cop. And if Cat really is our investigator, he’s hardly going to investigate himself. - I don’t see why Cat would say Tom ‘looks scummy’ if he had a result on him. > [@CatInASuit](#): > > **Alka Seltzer** , link to the obvious berynium question. Oh, I saw that, I just thought nothing of it. It was the kind of question any player might ask. > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > The only thing that might really qualify as confusion is his little list of not-Head-Screamers there, which could turn into major WIFOM if he does flip Scum. Gryff has it right, if Cat flips scum this should be ignored. Assuming Cat is scum, they have had plenty of time to consider what they would do if I found him. The claim could be a role-fishing attempt, or an attempt to try and gain town cred for another scum player. > [@Oredigger77](#): > > I’m not that impressed with the list of investigations. With a complete list of scum and the claimed power-roles (not to mention the death confirmed) it wouldn’t be hard to name two vanilla townies and even if the guess was wrong then power roles would be outed making CAIS’s death a little better for the team. It’s a null test right now, smart townies would only dispute his investigations as a last resort, and scum or 3rd parties probably would not do so at all. > [@pedescribe](#): > > Everyone’s eyes swiveled to the bar, which DaphneBlack was no loner tending. Tom Scud dared to look over the counter…she had fallen, with multiple wounds. There were serrated wound up and down the body, and multiple stab wounds peppering the face and chest. I’m wondering if the nature of Daphne’s wounds indicates she was double-killed (serrated wounds sound like screamers, while stab wounds might be an SK). However, this might be a bit of a stretch on my part. > [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Actually, I guess having gone public with it I might as well say what it does. > > It initially played “it’s a small world”. I left it running overnight as I slept. > > Now, it says “I am Thomas Scud. I am a Town [role redacted]. Please help.” > > I will send it to someone tonight, who can confirm or deny the message and send their own message. **@Tom** - Interesting. To be clear, is that a message you wrote, or one that just appeared? Since **Tiltawhirl** hasn’t checked in, I’ll start the countdown tomorrow. I’ll aim to do so at about **6:00PM GMT** , which I think is **12:00PM EST** (We’re back on GMT now. My favorite day of the year, I got an extra hour’s sleep yesterday). **@Normal Phase** - Was it you or **amrussel** who made a bit of a case against CatInASuit on day 1 or early day 2? Something along the lines of “seems overly concerned about his reputation”. I can’t find the post now. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2098 "2009-10-26T23:00:11Z")
> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#): > > **@Tom** - Interesting. To be clear, is that a message you wrote, or one that just appeared? It just appeared. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2099 "2009-10-27T00:16:16Z")
You know, I told myself I would unvote if **Alka** couldn’t clarify that the Head Screamer was Scum, but all of the inconsistencies in what **Cat** is saying is enough to push this one over the edge for me. I find especially compelling the earlier smudging of **Tom** at a point after he’d allegedly investigated him. Can’t have it both ways. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2100 "2009-10-27T00:36:22Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > I find especially compelling the earlier smudging of **Tom** at a point after he’d allegedly investigated him. Can’t have it both ways. Do you know where that was? (sorry, everybody’s been smudging Tom this game, myself included. It’s hard to keep track of who’s done which) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938.md?page=104) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938.md?page=106)