# Screamers Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 21, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938 "2009-09-21T13:16:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 106
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2101 "2009-10-27T00:50:44Z")
**Tom** was actually the one who found it, and mentioned it [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11705133&postcount=2072). ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2102 "2009-10-27T00:54:50Z")
Fantastic. **Vote: CatinaSuit** Crap, I already did it. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2103 "2009-10-27T01:57:16Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > (sorry, everybody’s been smudging Tom this game, myself included. It’s hard to keep track of who’s done which) To be fair, I think I’ve voted to lynch more people than have smudged me.😛 ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2104 "2009-10-27T02:09:35Z")
> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#): > > **@Normal Phase** - Was it you or **amrussel** who made a bit of a case against CatInASuit on day 1 or early day 2? Something along the lines of “seems overly concerned about his reputation”. I can’t find the post now. It wasn’t me; I don’t remember even noticing **CIAS** until he did a WoW on me Yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2105 "2009-10-27T02:20:58Z")
> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#): > > **@Normal Phase** - Was it you or **amrussel** who made a bit of a case against CatInASuit on day 1 or early day 2? Something along the lines of “seems overly concerned about his reputation”. I can’t find the post now. Twere **amrussell** , #659. ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2106 "2009-10-27T03:35:20Z")
This is a no brainer. **Vote CiaS** ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2107 "2009-10-27T08:11:48Z")
**vote CIAS** really not buying it. I agree that “Head Screamer” implies underlings, and am really underwhelmed with the reveal of a known player and 2 vanilla claims. ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2108 "2009-10-27T09:31:41Z")
I checked my PM, I will be interested to check some of the details in it with pedescribe at Day end because they don’t make much sense and probably wont until I get to see a full ruleset. I have no problems being lynched, but allow me to recap. As for actions, I am a full investigator, I get role and side. Interesting to see that everyone assumed Vanilla = Town, but I guess YMMV. Ho hum. I am a Town Aligned Screamer 5, and I believe there are only two of us, with JC the other on Night 1. Yes, I had the berynium which would be picked up by Alka Seltzer, I also believe I would have been marked as vanilla town by any other investigative role in the town. Like I said I will be interested to see what the GMs had in mind. Given everything, I don’t believe there is a Godfather Scum in the town and would be amazed if there was. Alka Seltzer/Gryff/BS, P.I, are pretty much confirmed town and you can add Tom Scud to the list at least. All I shall say is Night 1: Tom Scud = Town Vanilla Night 2: Daphne Black = Town Roleblocker/Weak Role Cop Night 3: Guiri En Espana = Scum Vanilla **vote Guiri En Espana**. Feel free to ignore this for now, but please follow this up tomorrow morning. Good luck town and, no Boozy Squid, I won’t blow you up when I get lynched. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2109 "2009-10-27T09:34:39Z")
> [@CatInASuit](#): > > Night 3: Guiri En Espana = Scum Vanilla /snipped Well I can now confirm **CIAS** has no investigative powers at all. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2110 "2009-10-27T09:43:00Z")
Weak. If you were truly Town, you would have revealed that immediately. You’re just doing this so we WIFOM it once you are dead. ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2111 "2009-10-27T11:52:51Z")
If an Investigator turns up Scum, there’s no need to hold it back. I don’t understand proTown motivations for turning the findings into a huge, drawn out theatrical production. Trying to convince us that you’re Town aligned by revealing what you know piece by piece makes no sense, since in the end you would have had to tell us everything. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2112 "2009-10-27T12:35:49Z")
Aw great. 😕 Would someone not part of the CIAS bandwagon please cross-check **Guiri** ’s posts? It’s possible CIAS has a point. @ **CIAS** : I didn’t see a response to my question, so I’ll repeat it on this page (seeing as it’s easy to lose something one page back): Did you leave any breadcrumbs of your investigations from Nights 1 or 2? ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2113 "2009-10-27T12:36:42Z")
Now that’s a better attempt at sowing confusion. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2114 "2009-10-27T12:38:47Z")
**Ben** , you’re really starting to ping me. It makes zero sense for Town to act as **CIAS** has. He’s just blowing smoke. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2115 "2009-10-27T12:49:23Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > Would someone not part of the CIAS bandwagon please cross-check **Guiri** ’s posts? It’s possible CIAS has a point. /snipped A point would be “I investigated **GuiriEnEspaña** because he did X, Y and Z which pinged me as being scummy and made me quite sure he was a good candidate for the Head Screamer so, lo and behold, when I investigated him I found out that he was just a scum vanilla so I didn’t bother to tell anyone and preferred to let everyone vote for me first.” Now, that would be a point. What was the first thing **Alka** did toDay? Post his conclusion that **CIAS** is the fourth berynium-holder and must be the Head Screamer. Apart from the leader, the only players who are not part of the **CIAS** bandwagon are: - the recently inactive **Tilta** - **CIAS** himself - You Why don’t you cross-check my posts and get back to us on your findings? I refer you to **Normal Phase** ’s post [#1938](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11697409&postcount=1938) to give you a headstart. ---
**Author:** ![Gryff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Gryff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gryff)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2116 "2009-10-27T12:56:23Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > **Ben** , you’re really starting to ping me. It makes zero sense for Town to act as **CIAS** has. He’s just blowing smoke. Actually **Scuba** ’s actions yesterday while defending **Cat** was pinging away at me, but I was going to wait until the lynch confirmed **Cat** ’s scuminess before following up on that. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2117 "2009-10-27T12:58:25Z")
Yeah, I’m having a tough time deciding who I want to die more tomorrow, **Tom** or **Ben**. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2118 "2009-10-27T13:10:05Z")
I’m not trying to sow confusion, I’m just confused myself. (This happens every. single. time. I play MafiaScum.) Guiri, I’ll start with that post when I can. (But my day job expects me to do something else today, so my analysis of it could take a while.) **Gryff** , I have a loooong history of triggering people’s Scum-dar, yet I’ve never been Scum. I also have a loooong history of voting for Town. Both of you (Guiri and Gryff) have good points. (Thinking out loud) Alka jumped on at Dawn to say, “I caught a Scum!” Some time later, Cat said, “Not me!” Only significantly later did Cat say “I caught a Scum!” So I see your points, Cat is acting NOT like a Town detective. Cat, care to rebut? Also, care to address Guiri’s point – why did you investigate who you claimed to investigate? And while we’re waiting, **Vote CatInASuit** And if Cat flips as Town, we’ll all have to suspect Alka and Guiri. (Reaches for the _DUH_ button.) ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2119 "2009-10-27T13:16:32Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > IAnd if Cat flips as Town, we’ll all have to suspect Alka and Guiri. (Reaches for the _DUH_ button.) /snipped Not necessarily. If \*\*CIAS[/B turned up as “Head Screamer” with a Town aligmnent, would we also be told if he was a traitor (to Town)? Or impersonator (like Jessica was in the movie)? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2120 "2009-10-27T13:40:30Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > /snipped > > Not necessarily. If \*\*CIAS[/B turned up as “Head Screamer” with a Town aligmnent, would we also be told if he was a traitor (to Town)? Or impersonator (like Jessica was in the movie)? Well, IF Cat flips Town, we obviously lynch (or vig, but I’m pretty sure we have an SK and not a vig) you Tomorrow, cause that means the investigator caught Scum. But yeah, Cat flipping Town just means he’s a combo Miller/Cop, and a cop can’t be held accountable for fingering a Miller. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938.md?page=105) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938.md?page=107)