# Screamers Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 21, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938 "2009-09-21T13:16:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 114

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2261 "2009-10-30T18:25:44Z")

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State of play

Alive:  
Tom Scud - unclaimed  
tiltawhirl - unclaimed  
Normal Phase - unclaimed  
USCDiver - unclaimed  
Allwalker - unclaimed  
Scuba\_Ben - unclaimed  
Oredigger77 - unclaimed  
GuirienEspana - Vanilla Town (unconfirmed)  
Drain Bead - Vanilla Town (unconfirmed)  
One and Only - unspecified Town power role (power role confirmed)  
Boozahol Squid, PI - Megacorp Regional Manager (mostly confirmed)  
Gryph - General Store Manager (mostly confirmed)

Dead:  
BillMC - Vanilla Town  
TexCat - Prostitute (Town Recruiting Mason)  
jpei - Head Miner (Town Governor)  
Thing Fish - Town Bodyguard  
amrussell, Ordinary Wife (Vanilla Town)  
peekercpa, the Field Medic (Doc-in-Training/Backup Doc)  
Freudian Slit, Town Jailor  
Daphne, Bartender (Town Roleblocker/weak role cop)

CatinaSuit - Model 5 (Screamer Investigator) (speculated was a Head Screamer)  
Jimmy Chitwood - Model 5 (Screamer Investigator).  
Chronos, Screamer Roleblocker, Model 2

Skipped Town:  
Alka Seltzer - Government Collector (Third Party Bling thief)

Unknown roles:  
Politician  
Serial Killer or Vig  
possibly 2 or 3 Screamers

Factual claims:  
**Boozahol** attempted a Night 1 action which did not have the effect he expected  
**Gryff** gave items to Boozahol, Tom Scud, Drain Bead, and Alka  
**Thing Fish** had his vote bought on Day 2.  
**Tom Scud** received a music box from Gryff, which recorded a distress message saying Tom Scud is Town; sent it to someone else on Night 4.  
**Drain Bead** received an unspecified item from Gryff, which was used on another player.  
**Oredigger77** volunteered to be blocked on Night 3, however **Daphne** said she would choose her own block target.  
**Gryff’s** tiara broke on Night 4; he is now eligible to be leader again  
**OneAndOnly** is not eligible to be leader  
Day 1 Leader: AllWalker -\> jpei (Town Power)  
Day 2 Leader: Boozahol Squid, P.I.  
Day 3 Leader: Alka Seltzer

Votes spoilered

Day 1 Final Vote

jpei (1): Freudian Slit  
peekercpa(3): Gryph, Boozahol Squid, PI, Cold Phoenix  
Drain Bead (2): USCDriver, CatInASuit  
Bill MC(8): Jimmy Chitwood, Drain Bead, tiltawhirl, Alka Seltzer, Daphne Black, Allwalker, Texcat, jpei (Leader)  
Boozahol Squid, PI(3): Bill MC, Thing Fish, Chronos  
CatInASuit (2): amrussell, Tom Scud  
Cold Phoenix (2): Oredigger, Guiri  
Tom Scud(1): Peeker  
Chronos(1): Normal Phase

Day 2 final vote:  
Gryff(1):  
Daphne(3): Gryff, Drain Bead, Chronos  
Freudian Slit(4): AllWalker, Tiltawhirl, Tom Scud, peeker  
Thing Fish(7): amrussell, Boozy Squid, CiaS, Normal Phase, Scuba Ben, Thing Fish, Guiri  
Peeker (1): Alka Seltzer

Day 3 final vote:  
Chronos(9): Oredigger, USCDiver, Tiltawhirl, Gryff, DaphneBlack, DB, CatInASuit, OaOW, Boozy Squid  
Drain Bead(6) : Tom Scud, Normalphase, Alka(leader), Chronos, Scuba\_Ben, GuiriEnEspana  
No vote: AllWalker

Day 4 final vote:  
Gueri (1): Cat  
Cat (13): everyone else.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2262 "2009-10-30T19:15:38Z")

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I’m OK with either **Boozy** or **gryff** as leader, but **gryff** hasn’t had the honor:

**elect Gryff**

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2263 "2009-10-30T19:22:30Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> By the way I was just thinking what happens if the politician buys the leader’s vote? I think that would make them a incredibly powerful so that should make it a town power (hopefully) which means we still might have a power role hiding in the vanilla pool.

It’s possible that Alka was or Boozy or OaOW is the politician.

I don’t know if the politician would be able to buy the leader’s tiebreaker vote, in which case buying the leader’s vote does let the politician start the clock, but is otherwise not much different from buying anyone else’s vote.

It’s a hugely powerful power in the hands of scum, though, because it means they need one less mislynch to control the vote; if scum do have a politician, I’d expect they’d also have one fewer scum than you’d expect.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2264 "2009-10-30T19:24:23Z")

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Also, I am now basically certain we have an SK and not a vig; if the vig thought I was scum, he/she should have vigged me last night; if he thought I wasn’t, he/she probably should have zapped someone off of my short list.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2265 "2009-10-30T19:28:58Z")

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PMs are out.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2266 "2009-10-30T19:37:09Z")

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> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#):
>
> \<faint voice from the ether\>
> 
> Thanks for the game everyone, it’s been interesting and played in a good spirit. Just remember, the only two certainties in life are death and taxes.

Do you want spoilers?  
Leader Votes:

Gryff (3): Scudsy, Ben, Norm  
Scudsy (1): Guiri  
Boozy (1): digger

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**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2267 "2009-10-30T19:58:53Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
>
> Do you want spoilers?

Yes please.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2268 "2009-10-30T20:58:59Z")

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**elect Gryff**

Most likely to be Town still left alive.

Mods confirmed delivery of my item, so hopefully we will hear about it in-thread soon.

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**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2269 "2009-10-30T21:12:19Z")

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Let’s share the love:

**elect: Gryff**

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2270 "2009-10-31T00:37:58Z")

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Well, I’m back from Korea and have some reading to do to catch up with what has been going on. Looks like Alka did a great job!

Yep, I have a baby daughter sleeping in the other room right now. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2271 "2009-10-31T01:32:56Z")

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Many congratulations Mahaloth.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2272 "2009-10-31T02:31:45Z")

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Leader Votes:

Gryff (5): Scudsy, Ben, Norm, DB, Boozy  
Scudsy (1): Guiri  
Boozy (1): digger

> [@Mahaloth](#):
>
> Well, I’m back from Korea and have some reading to do to catch up with what has been going on. Looks like Alka did a great job!
> 
> Yep, I have a baby daughter sleeping in the other room right now. 🙂

Yay!

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2273 "2009-10-31T03:29:19Z")

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I consider \*\*Boozahol \*\*and \*\*Gryff \*\*to both be equally confirmed. I’m going to

**Elect Gryff**

since he hasn’t had a chance to lead yet.

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**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2274 "2009-10-31T04:08:38Z")

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**Elect Gryff**

now that that sissy tiara thing is broken.

Wow, what a weird turn of events. No kills went through… what do we make of that? I suppose **Alka** taking off without us (damn tax guys, who can’t trust 'em :P) might have somehow blocked the kills. Maybe both killing parties targeted Alka and missed…

I don’t know, and it probably wont help to speculate too much.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2275 "2009-10-31T06:12:51Z")

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from the grave: congrats **mahaloth**. pm me your address i have something i need to send you. back to the grave.

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2276 "2009-10-31T08:50:22Z")

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**Elect Gryff**

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**Author:** ![Gryff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Gryff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gryff)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2277 "2009-10-31T09:25:45Z")

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> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#):
>
> **Elect Gryff**

Man, you mean I am going to have to do all those complicated time zone calculations!!!1!

Actually I am going to have limited access to the internet on Monday and Tuesday. While I can get access at any particular time I won’t be able to monitor/play as much as usual those days.

**Elect Boozy**

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2278 "2009-10-31T10:49:42Z")

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The person I gave the item to, just so you all know, has posted to the thread since the morning post.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2279 "2009-10-31T11:38:41Z")

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OK, **gryff**. **unelect** , then.

**elect boozy**.

@ Drain – that’s significant, I take it?

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2280 "2009-10-31T13:24:44Z")

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It may turn out to be, it may not. I just wanted to put everyone on notice that we have some potential info being withheld.

Keep in mind that while I have an idea what this item does, I can’t be entirely sure. My thought was based on what **Tom** claimed the music box did, but it could have drawbacks I’m not aware of. If we don’t hear from the person by this time tomorrow, I’ll probably at least let everyone know who it is.

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