# Screamers Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 21, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938 "2009-09-21T13:16:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 123

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2441 "2009-11-06T20:19:12Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> Investigators leave breadcrumbs just in case they die before being outed. A good Cop would not have said you looked scummy after investigating you as Town.

Point. And the Daphne investigation still looks weird as hell. Eh, maybe I’m just being recreationally paranoid, and we should just lynch the hell out of the lurkers.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2442 "2009-11-06T20:25:17Z")

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I think we should all take a deep breath and see what the mass claim brings.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2443 "2009-11-06T20:27:30Z")

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BTW, I’m also kind of wondering if Alka was our serial killer; he was awfully sure that Daphne had been double-killed.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2444 "2009-11-06T21:26:54Z")

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A deep breath sounds good after reading all that.

I won’t be around much until Monday.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2009, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2445 "2009-11-07T01:18:07Z")

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I think we would have been informed if **Alka** was a SK. Also, that would give him two Night actions, which is a bit weird.

Mind you, I think we do _have_ a SK, but I don’t think **Alka** was it.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2009, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2446 "2009-11-07T22:07:07Z")

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The remnants of the community gathered in the town square early, hoping that they could be more successful today. A headcount produced only one missing again. That was good. The one missing, though, was Gryff. That was considerably less good. The townspeople cautiously opened the door to his house. The lights were on, and the word DIE had been inscribed on every flat surface available, which wasn’t much. There were boxes littering his house, and his body was propped against the door to the backroom, which was locked.

_Gryff, the General Store Owner (Town Shopkeeper), is dead._\*

Suddenly, Boozy Squid sputtered and spoke. “Hello. If you can hear this, that means my overpriced auto-will has worked successfully. Boozahol has died exactly 8 hours ago, and he wished to tell you that he prays for your success.” The hologram of Boozy vanished.

**Boozahol Squid PI, the Megacorp Regional Manager (Town Politician), is also dead.**

It is Day 6. Leader deadline is at 5:05 PM EST on Sunday, November 8th.

Also, OaOW is still ineligible for leader.

\*A shopkeeper is similar to an inventor, except that he cannot use the items he has, but can only give them to other people to use. This is only the second time our group has used this role, I believe, the first time being the GasterdMod game (Not Inblorious Gastereds, but rather the one on IdleMafia).

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2009, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2447 "2009-11-07T22:14:35Z")

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So I guess OaOW is NOT the politician.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2009, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2448 "2009-11-07T22:20:37Z")

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Let’s see: (1) **Elect Drain Bead**

(2) I also think **Drain Bead** should draw up our mass-claim list, if we decide to go that way.

(3) **Oredigger** , do you have a report on the music box?

(4) **One** , I think it’s now time, mass claims aside, to tell us what your role is. If you’re a town power role, you’re the #1 target for scum pretty much regardless anyway. If you’re not, then I’d like to get you pinned down to a claim right now.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2009, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2449 "2009-11-07T22:50:55Z")

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I think with our mass claim, OAOW should go first, since he’s already semi-claimed anyway. The rest I’d do through [random.org](http://random.org).

We clearly either have a SK or two Scum groups (with the 2 Model 5s, it’s not outside of the realm of possibility).

I trust nobody except myself at this point.

**Elect Drain Bead**

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2009, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2450 "2009-11-07T23:41:19Z")

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State of play

Alive:  
Normal Phase - unclaimed  
USCDiver - unclaimed  
Allwalker - unclaimed  
Oredigger77 - unclaimed  
Tom Scud - Vanilla Town (unconfirmed)  
GuirienEspana - Vanilla Town (unconfirmed)  
Drain Bead - Vanilla Town (unconfirmed)  
tiltawhirl - Escape Artist (can avoid lynch, has unspecified other powers, unconfirmed)  
One and Only - unspecified Town power role (power role confirmed)

Dead Town:  
Scuba\_Ben - Vanilla Town  
BillMC - Vanilla Town  
TexCat - Prostitute (Town Recruiting Mason)  
jpei - Head Miner (Town Governor)  
Thing Fish - Town Bodyguard  
amrussell, Ordinary Wife (Vanilla Town)  
peekercpa, the Field Medic (Doc-in-Training/Backup Doc)  
Freudian Slit, Town Jailor  
Daphne, Bartender (Town Roleblocker/weak role cop)  
Boozahol Squid, PI - Megacorp Regional Manager (Town Politician)  
Gryph - General Store Manager (mostly confirmed)

Dead Scum:  
CatinaSuit - Model 5 (Screamer Investigator) (speculated was a Head Screamer)  
Jimmy Chitwood - Model 5 (Screamer Investigator).  
Chronos, Screamer Roleblocker, Model 2

Skipped Town:  
Alka Seltzer - Government Collector (Third Party Bling thief)

Unknown roles:  
Serial Killer  
possibly 2 or 3 Screamers

Factual claims:  
**Tom Scud** received a music box from Gryff, which recorded a distress message saying Tom Scud is Town; sent it to Oredigger on Night 4.  
**Oredigger77** volunteered to be blocked on Night 3, however **Daphne** said she would choose her own block target.  
**OneAndOnly** is not eligible to be leader  
Day 1 Leader: AllWalker -\> jpei (Town Power)  
Day 2 Leader: Boozahol Squid, P.I.  
Day 3 Leader: Alka Seltzer  
Day 4 Leader: Boozy

Votes spoilered

Day 1 Final Vote

jpei (1): Freudian Slit  
peekercpa(3): Gryph, Boozahol Squid, PI, Cold Phoenix  
Drain Bead (2): USCDriver, CatInASuit  
Bill MC(8): Jimmy Chitwood, Drain Bead, tiltawhirl, Alka Seltzer, Daphne Black, Allwalker, Texcat, jpei (Leader)  
Boozahol Squid, PI(3): Bill MC, Thing Fish, Chronos  
CatInASuit (2): amrussell, Tom Scud  
Cold Phoenix (2): Oredigger, Guiri  
Tom Scud(1): Peeker  
Chronos(1): Normal Phase

Day 2 final vote:  
Gryff(1):  
Daphne(3): Gryff, Drain Bead, Chronos  
Freudian Slit(4): AllWalker, Tiltawhirl, Tom Scud, peeker  
Thing Fish(7): amrussell, Boozy Squid, CiaS, Normal Phase, Scuba Ben, Thing Fish, Guiri  
Peeker (1): Alka Seltzer

Day 3 final vote:  
Chronos(9): Oredigger, USCDiver, Tiltawhirl, Gryff, DaphneBlack, DB, CatInASuit, OaOW, Boozy Squid  
Drain Bead(6) : Tom Scud, Normalphase, Alka(leader), Chronos, Scuba\_Ben, GuiriEnEspana  
No vote: AllWalker

Day 4 final vote:  
Gueri (1): Cat  
Cat (13): everyone else.

Day 5 final vote:

Scuba (5): DrainBead, AllWalker, Norma, Guiri, tilty  
USCD (1): Gryff  
Tilta (3): Scuba, Mr. Scud, USCD  
Mr. Scud (1): OaOW  
Guiri (1): Boozy Squid

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**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2009, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2451 "2009-11-07T23:42:17Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> \*A shopkeeper is similar to an inventor, except that he cannot use the items he has, but can only give them to other people to use. This is only the second time our group has used this role, I believe, the first time being the GasterdMod game (Not Inblorious Gastereds, but rather the one on IdleMafia).

/snipped  
Cannot or should not? He used the Tiara, for which apparently he was punished. The phantom vote can’t have been **Boozy** ’s as he was probably unable to use his power during the night (his failed night 1 action) and seems to have only used it once (on **TF** ).

> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> Let’s see: (1) Elect Drain Bead
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> (2) I also think **Drain Bead** should draw up our mass-claim list, if we decide to go that way.

/snipped and bleached

1. Agreed, **Elect Drain Bead**
2. Agreed and agree

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2009, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2452 "2009-11-07T23:46:45Z")

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I’m a role cop,

flavour is child pickpocket, my age is why I am ineligible to be leader. I am a poor orphan living on the streets after my parents were killed by screamers. I have to steal to survive. If i am successful in my thievery I can glean knowledge about the person I stole from as to their role, but not however their alignment

Night one I went after boozy. I found out he was a politivian and breadcrumbed it in post 1342

> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#):
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> very Democratic of you sport!

Night 2 I went after Tom Scud, got nothing

Night 3 Drain Bead - nothing

Night 4 Guiri - nothing

Night 5 Oredigger - nothing

**elect Drain Bead**

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2009, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2453 "2009-11-07T23:47:32Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> (3) **Oredigger** , do you have a report on the music box?

Why yes I do; Tom Sud is scum. 😃 Sorry, that’s not even slightly funny but I had do do it. The music box told me that Tom is town and my correct alignment has been recorded over his so I’ll pass it along toNight and maybe we can make a run at this.

> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> I trust nobody except myself at this point.

Well I used to trust Boozy and I do even more now that he’s confirmed I also managed to have Tom confirmed for me at the same time so that’s where my leader vote is going.

**Elect Tom Scud**

As far as the mass claim goes I’d prefer to use something visable for our random number generator how about the score to tomorrow’s NFL games? I think Drain is a townie but it is always easier of we take out any possible tampering.

As a last thought since each of the previously confirmed town power roles were killed last it suggests to me a little bit more colusion then should be possible between a scum team and a SK. I think would should consider the possibility of an extra scum kill.

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**Author:** ![tiltawhirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@tiltawhirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiltawhirl)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2454 "2009-11-08T00:07:28Z")

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I will **Elect Tom Scud** following his confirmation by Oredigger. Previously I had been in favor of electing unconfirmed players as a way to test them out, but I think we’ve entered a critical juncture where the Leader role can really help town or hurt it.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2455 "2009-11-08T00:08:24Z")

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**Oredigger** , what exactly did the Music Box say?

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2456 "2009-11-08T00:25:30Z")

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> [@GuiriEnEspana](#):
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> /snipped  
> Cannot or should not? He used the Tiara, for which apparently he was punished. The phantom vote can’t have been **Boozy** ’s as he was probably unable to use his power during the night (his failed night 1 action) and seems to have only used it once (on **TF** ).

Shopkeepers are unable to use items, but they can pass items to themselves.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2457 "2009-11-08T00:29:12Z")

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Leader Count:  
Drain Bead (3): Tom Scud, Guiri, OaOW  
Tom Scud (2): Digger, Tilty

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2458 "2009-11-08T00:49:06Z")

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**elect Tom Scud**

Just let me know when to claim.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2459 "2009-11-08T01:02:49Z")

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> [@USCDiver](#):
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> **Oredigger** , what exactly did the Music Box say?

"Hello, my name is THOMAS SCUD and I am a TOWNSPERSON "

Seems pretty straightforward to me.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2460 "2009-11-08T01:36:30Z")

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**unvote myself**  
**elect Tom**

Good to have him confirmed.

Now, working with the list he so conveniently provided…I’ll leave out those who have already claimed. That only leaves us 4. Should be quick and easy enough.

Normal Phase - unclaimed  
USCDiver - unclaimed  
Allwalker - unclaimed  
Oredigger77 - unclaimed

Using [random.org](http://random.org), the order for the mass claim is:

USCDiver  
Normal Phase  
Allwalker  
Oredigger

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