# Screamers Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 21, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938 "2009-09-21T13:16:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 130
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2581 "2009-11-12T17:10:00Z")
Yeah, the really confusing thing about that sequence of votes is that they all actually make sense, and I now think better of both Diver and Tilt for their votes. While still thinking we need to take some positive action towards finding the SK (who, yes, USC, is not absolutely proven to exist, but the only other alternative I can see is one where scum with 2 kills a night deliberately off **Jimmy** in round one to throw Town off the scent. Which really doesn’t make much sense). ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2582 "2009-11-12T17:16:41Z")
> [@tiltawhirl](#): > > Since that isn’t going to happen, I want to do the next best thing: save town a possible mislynch and confirm my role. Confirming your role doesn’t confirm your alignment. I think it is more likely you are scum than town. Seems to balance a Town player who can survive a night kill. > [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Yeah, the really confusing thing about that sequence of votes is that they all actually make sense, and I now think better of both Diver and Tilt for their votes. While still thinking we need to take some positive action towards finding the SK (who, yes, USC, is not absolutely proven to exist, but the only other alternative I can see is one where scum with 2 kills a night deliberately off **Jimmy** in round one to throw Town off the scent. Which really doesn’t make much sense). Or there are two scum factions. Or Texcat’s recruiting attempt killed him off. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2583 "2009-11-12T17:30:58Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > Or there are two scum factions. Or Texcat’s recruiting attempt killed him off. I assume you mean TexCat had a one-shot vig thing built in, where he killed Jimmy by trying to recruit him? (And died himself in the attempt, or some such). I’ve thought about that, but then why weren’t there 4 deaths on Night 1, instead of 3? ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2584 "2009-11-12T17:36:06Z")
Not sure if I want to go down that wormhole, but I guess you could argue there was no Scum kill from Jimmy’s group (Jimmy having been chosen to perform it, and prevented from doing so), and Jpei was killed by the hypothesized second Scum team. I don’t see why Scum would kill amrussell, though. She had made some nice arguments, but she’d also been conspicuously (and recently) wrong about ThingFish, which did turn into a big issue the following Day. Vig kill would make more sense for her, or, as it turns out since we have no vig, SK-posing-as-vig. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2585 "2009-11-12T17:37:01Z")
On a second scum team: would one team have been given a roleblocker and the other, not? Seems pretty unbalanced if so, and no one has reported a roleblock since the deaths of Chronos, Daphne and Freudian. Also, I can’t see how 2 teams of Screamers would make any kind of sense in terms of game color. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2586 "2009-11-12T17:41:18Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > I don’t see why Scum would kill amrussell, though. She had made some nice arguments, but she’d also been conspicuously (and recently) wrong about ThingFish, which did turn into a big issue the following Day. Vig kill would make more sense for her, or, as it turns out since we have no vig, SK-posing-as-vig. Well, it could also be second-scum-kill posing as vig/SK. (My hypothetical 2-scum-kill strategy would have involved scum killing one “normal” scum target and then picking another Townie more or less at random to look like a confused vig). ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2587 "2009-11-12T17:43:12Z")
Vote Count: Tilty (3): Guiri, tilty, USCD Norma (2): OaOW, Allwalker AllWalker (4): Norma, Tom (Leader), Digger, DB ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2588 "2009-11-12T19:43:51Z")
I hate waiting for the axe to drop. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2589 "2009-11-12T19:45:42Z")
It would be nice to be right about one of these things, for a change. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2590 "2009-11-12T19:57:48Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > Ah, Jeez!! You’re going to purposefully preserve a tie! You are so scummy! I really don’t want to move my vote off you, but I will do as I promised if there is still a tie near the end of the Day. Scummy? I think the two of you are Town and have said so on a number of occasions. By voting for **AllWalker** I believe I’d actually have been saving you too. Yeah, must sound weird to you but we couldn’t afford to lose up to 4 townies tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2591 "2009-11-12T20:45:05Z")
Hey, Allwalker you want to spoil how this ends for us since Pede is still in class? ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2592 "2009-11-12T20:46:36Z")
LOL. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2593 "2009-11-12T20:46:45Z")
I think Allwalker is probably asleep, it being something like 5 AM in Oz. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2594 "2009-11-12T21:43:54Z")
Though a little less disorganized than the previous day, there was still some squabbling and uncertainties among the townsfolk. But in the end, consensus was reached. They were throwing AllWalker in. “Guys…c’mon. This is silly” he said. But to no avail. He was spat out, the sound of electricity still sizzling. He stood up! “Wednesday night is…pudding night.” And fell right back down. Tom Scud crept up to him slowly, feeling for a pulse, listening for a heartbeat. It was there. Allwalker is not dead! He also got zapped for his trouble. Not by the residual electricity on Allwalker, but by the pillow clutched in his hands. It was soon clear that this was no ordinary pillow. It started to move, to advance! It was changing, into a crystal ball, a rotary phone, an alarm clock, a palm pilot…it was slowing down. It settled on the form of an old, worn teddy bear, which moved no more. **Tiltawhirl, the Model 4 (Screamer Hider) is dead.** It is now Night 6. Day starts on Saturday, 4:45 PM. \*A hider is a role that can hide behind another character to avoid kills. If they’re hiding, and they’re attacked, they won’t die. But if the person they’re hiding behind dies, they die too. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2595 "2009-11-12T21:47:47Z")
😕 ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2596 "2009-11-12T21:47:55Z")
ROFLMAO. _sigh_ Should have gone with my initial instinct. So…AllWalker had a Gryff item that saved him from our lynch, and tilt was hiding behind him and got the kill? Is that what that all meant? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2597 "2009-11-12T21:50:29Z")
Um. So did AllWalker lie about his role? But he isn’t dead? But Tilt IS dead, because he hid behind AllWalker? Does anyone understand what just happened? ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2598 "2009-11-12T21:51:25Z")
Ha Ha Ha!!! Farewell **Tilta** , hope that noose was real, real comfy! But this doesn’t say anything about **AllWalker** ’s role or alignment, right? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2599 "2009-11-12T21:51:59Z")
I guess there must have been a Gryff item. Woo was that ever weird. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/2600 "2009-11-12T21:52:06Z")
That having been said…YAY! We know who **tilt** was trying to save by voting for himself–I guess he was hoping that we’d switch to him and he wouldn’t die, thus “confirming” him. Great fake roleclaim. Too bad he hid behind the person we all decided to switch to. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938.md?page=129) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938.md?page=131)