# Screamers Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 21, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938 "2009-09-21T13:16:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/621 "2009-10-01T14:38:09Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > jpeg (2): OAoW, TxtKitty > The One and Only(1): Da’Chronic > Pecear(3): Gruff, Oredigger, Boozy, > The Dread Bean (5): amrussett, Abnormal Phase, Freudian Skit, UPSDriver, KittySoot > Borerigger(1): Brainbleed > AllWalker(1): Scudmissile > M.C. Billy(1): Pecear I unvoted Peeker earlier but since you guys seem to be overlooking it I’ll do it again. **Unvote Peeker** ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/622 "2009-10-01T14:55:34Z")
Vote Count: jpeg (3): OAoW, TxtKitty, Alkaseltzer The One and Only(1): Da’Chronic Pecear(2): Gruff, Boozy, The Dread Bean (5): amrussett, Abnormal Phase, Freudian Skit, UPSDriver, KittySoot Borerigger(2): Brainbleed, Scudmissile M.C. Billy(1): Pecear Da’Chronic(1): AllWalker(leader) ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/623 "2009-10-01T15:30:36Z")
And in fact, let’s have a look at **TexCat** : > [@TexCat](#): > > I did check just before the day started and OneandOnly was the only unconfirmed. Mildly useful but noncontroversial information post. > [@TexCat](#): > > I am not so worried about **jpei** ’s lack of vote as I am about the lame excuses and the above post that appears to laying down some early groundwork for not voting later – a pre-excuse. Makes me wonder if there is some role restriction about voting in elections – similar to OaOW’s restriction about being elected. > > Other things mildly pinging me at the moment are **peeker** ’s dogged pursuit of TomScud on what looks like pretty shaky grounds and **AlkaSeltzer** ’s obsession with millers. Reasonable argument about jpei, though not backed by a vote; jpei at the time was the early vote leader. I’m not sure that’s a fair characterization of **jpei’s** (rather odd) “Jim Jones” argument – he said he thought it might be mildly dangerous to vote, then didn’t vote. This seems like following through on his own ideas, not setting up a pre-excuse. But anyway, nothing to see here. The peeker comment was prior to the peeker-wagon; Alka had been voted by Boozy earlier. > [@TexCat](#): > > The skirmish between **peeker** and **TomScud** is now beginning to look to me like two scum fighting for show. I thought at first that it was just peeker going on and on about something that looked like nothing to everyone else, but I wonder now why Tom keeps defending himself and prolonging the skirmish when no one else thinks he was suspicious and he’s obviously not going to convince peeker. Tom’s vote on peeker would seem to indicate that they are not a pair of scum, but it’s early in the Day – and so something to keep an eye on. The first person to mention the “scumfight” theory vis a vis the peeker/Tom controversy. I know I’m town, so I know that it smudges at least one townie, though it might not have been intended to. Also, in my own lurking and playing experience, every single Day 1 fight has been Town vs. Town with scum among the pile-ons. > [@TexCat](#): > > I have never played in a game with a lie detector before. So I am not sure I really understand the point of everyone stating their town alignment. Is it just so that the lie detector is able to investigate them? > > I am not sure how this helps, but for the record, I am town aligned. > > **Vote: jpei** for not voting in the election and trying to find reasons for not voting, both before the election and afterwards. Reasonable question; fairly safe vote. Anyway, I’m not happy with my **Digger** vote, and not all that happy with any of the alternatives, so I’ll **unvote Oredigger** and **vote TexCat** for minimal participation and originating the mildly scummy “scumfight” meme. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/624 "2009-10-01T15:34:10Z")
NETA: every single Day 1 fight has been Town vs. Town except for in the Gasterd game, of course. ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/625 "2009-10-01T16:04:01Z")
**Alka Seltzer** and **Gryff** , I get what you are saying a bit more now. What you are saying doesn’t totally jibe with what I have seen with this group of mafia players, but I see where you’re coming from now. In this group, I’ve seen more scum false-claim Cop than Doc. I’m not going to vote for **peeker** at this point, but I’m not going to vote for you guys either. I’m still suspicious of **Drain Bead** but I don’t think she’s the best lynch candidate at this point. I initially thought **jpei** was operating mostly out of newbieness but now I am wondering whether he’s ‘lurking’ intentionally. **vote jpei** ---
**Author:** ![BillMC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@BillMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BillMC)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/626 "2009-10-01T16:44:05Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Good God, over 24 hours left in Day One and we’re onto Page Twelve. SDMB Mafia is not for the faint of heart! Damn right - it’s the main thing that irks me about playing on here - very verbose and everything in a single thread. > [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Oh, I’d also like to hear from **BillMC** a bit more (including a pro forma “I am Town” statement), but at least he’s been forthright about being pressed for time et cetera. Aww, did ya miss me? I am town, I am town aligned, I’m a Scotsman (yes really, but not in this game 😃 ) > [@DaphneBlack](#): > > Has anyone ever been in a game with two full docs? It seems ridiculously overpowered, but in a game this large I suppose I could see it, if it was balanced by the scum having a lot of powers too. There’s been a couple, Doc’s, half-docs, backup docs, so I really don’t have any issue with **Peeker** saying “a doctor” > [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > Peeker was asserting that there was another doctor, who would be coming out of the woodwork to counterclaim him. Hmm, I really did not read it that way. > [@peekercpa](#): > > ok, screw it. because the son of a gun always hangs low and is always right there regardless of alignment. playing slow when i don’t know for sure you are on my team. and since i know i am town. > > **vote billmc** > > and crud that didn’t come off right. > > **bill** is really a kind of scary player. when he’s on my side i know i have my back up. > > but he is also like a testicle that doesn’t fully protude. if it stays inside you it can kind of cannibalize the rest of your body all the while looking real helpful. i mean, seriously look at jessica simpson. > > that’s really all i am saying is all. So I’m a scary jessica simpson? lol – thanks - if nothing else **Peeker** your philosophical insights make me laugh. The various cases are pretty weak - but that’s fairly typical for Day 1. So for the comment above, I’m going to **Vote Boozy** ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/627 "2009-10-01T16:58:58Z")
> [@BillMC](#): > > So for the comment above, I’m going to > > **Vote Boozy** You rode the short bus when you were a kid, didn’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/628 "2009-10-01T17:10:15Z")
Now _that_ is a woefully inadequate reason for a vote. For summarizing the most common (apparently) interpretation of **peeker** ’s claim language – an interpretation that **Squid** wasn’t even the first to offer – you’re voting for him? That doesn’t have anything to do with finding scum. **Vote BillMC** ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/629 "2009-10-01T17:37:17Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > Now _that_ is a woefully inadequate reason for a vote. For summarizing the most common (apparently) interpretation of **peeker** ’s claim language – an interpretation that **Squid** wasn’t even the first to offer – you’re voting for him? > > That doesn’t have anything to do with finding scum. I was just about to say exactly this. Just because you didn’t read an ambiguous statement in the same way as another person, you’re voting for them? Several other people also misinterpreted the statement and I don’t see you voting for them. This is just…strange. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/630 "2009-10-01T17:43:24Z")
I’ve been thinking about this for five whole minutes, and I have come to the conclusion that this is the scummiest thing I’ve seen in this thread so far. Really, I can’t think of a vote that has had more shoddy reasoning, and I’m counting Day One [random.org](http://random.org) votes in that assessment. **Unvote Oredigger** **Vote BillMC** ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/631 "2009-10-01T17:57:18Z")
I’m not feelinfg the Drain Bead case. I was interested when she wouldn’t declare alignment, but to have stuck to the guns for so long, garnishing so much attention, when a simple “I am Town Aligned” would have made it go away… I am going to leave my vote where it is I think, pending further developments ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/632 "2009-10-01T18:03:18Z")
> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > I’m not feelinfg the Drain Bead case. I was interested when she wouldn’t declare alignment, but to have stuck to the guns for so long, garnishing so much attention, when a simple “I am Town Aligned” would have made it go away… > > I am going to leave my vote where it is I think, pending further developments If by “for so long,” you mean “less than 24 hours, in the 2nd post I made on the subject, after the first post in which I said everyone should claim town-aligned,” then sure. I only had two votes on me, I think, when I said I was town-aligned. I got the majority of them after. So while I’m glad for you not voting for me, I feel the need to point out that you’re not voting for me based on a mistaken assumption. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/633 "2009-10-01T18:15:59Z")
Vote Count: jpeg (4): OAoW, TxtKitty, Alkaseltzer, DaffyBlk The One and Only(1): Da’Chronic Pecear(2): Gruff, Boozy, The Dread Bean (5): amrussett, Abnormal Phase, Freudian Skit, UPSDriver, KittySoot M.C. Billy(3): Pecear, JiminiyShitblood, Brainbleed Da’Chronic(1): AllWalker(leader) TxtKitty(1): Scudmissile Boozy(1): MCBilly The frequent vote updates is to keep me sane, by the way. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/634 "2009-10-01T18:26:48Z")
Wow, just when I thought it was all for fun, the naming conventions take a turn for the gruesome. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/635 "2009-10-01T18:28:50Z")
[hijack] Subs needed for Disney Mafia on Giraffe. PM me there if you’re willing and able [/hijack] ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/636 "2009-10-01T18:36:42Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > Wow, just when I thought it was all for fun, the naming conventions take a turn for the gruesome. :eek: Oh, uh, sorry. I debated whether that would be taken as funny. Ped, please make up a better nickname for Jimmy than I did…please? ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/637 "2009-10-01T18:41:10Z")
Jimmy Morningwood? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/638 "2009-10-01T18:45:25Z")
OK. (Hall monitor hat on) I _THINK_ this is the list of people who aren’t voting at the moment. 1. tiltawhirl 2. jpei 3. ColdPhoenix 4. Thing Fish 5. Oredigger77 6. Nanook (now GEE) I think only jpei hasn’t voted at all today. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/639 "2009-10-01T19:07:53Z")
It’s been since page 11 or 12, I think, since **jpei** has even posted. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/640 "2009-10-01T19:17:07Z")
I’m almost afraid to vote, call me anything but GEE, please! My vote goes to Jpei as, regardless of claims, his actions are anti-town and therefore scummy. He didn’t vote for leader, he hasn’t voted day 1 so far, he hasn’t posted anything in 2 days, he really hasn’t contributed at all to the search for scum. While he’s explained his reasons for not voting for leader, I’ve not seen any other contribution of any kind. This does not seem to be typical town-like behavior and is not much use to the rest of us townies. **Vote Jpei** [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938.md?page=33)