# Screamers Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 21, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938 "2009-09-21T13:16:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 36
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/701 "2009-10-02T12:28:45Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > \*\*Gueri \*\*, why are you assuming that just because \*\*jpei \*\*has this power, it means he (she?) must be Town? /snipped I’m not assuming anything for the moment. Jpei’s made this role claim to cover his rear so I’m giving him some room to breathe. I’ve asked the Mods to confirm the claim and eagerly await signs of Jpei’s being “the most efficient and leader-like of the miners”. We have either 5 hours or 3 days left to vote - plenty of time… ---
**Author:** ![tiltawhirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@tiltawhirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiltawhirl)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/702 "2009-10-02T12:29:07Z")
> [@jpei](#): > > My canned post: > > This day isn’t over yet, folks. > > My role PM is: > > [spoiler]Your role is: > > Head Miner (Town Governor) > > You are the most efficient and most leader-like of the miners–a rare combination. As such, you were founder of the local branch of the Miner’s Union (no affiliation with the warmongering unions elsewhere on the planet) and you quickly garnered much respect from the town. With this respect, you can easily establish yourself as town leader for the day…for a day. Even your commanding figure will come under fire if you attempt to sway the town more than once. There will be mutterings. Don’t do it. > > Summary: > > 1. At anytime during the Day, you can simply declare yourself to be town leader for the day, and it will be so. You cannot do this more than once.[/spoiler] > > I declare myself town leader for today. As I have not yet voted, the day won’t be ending quite yet. > > I am open for suggestions as to when this should really end. (I’m envisioning a Sunday afternoon vote to a Monday afternoon close at the moment.) Huh. I wondered if **OaOW** might have a power similar to this since he’s ineligible to be Leader. **jpei** shouldn’t you have role claimed before using what might have been a useful power under your “Jim Jones” scenario??? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/703 "2009-10-02T12:38:46Z")
What a crock. **unvote TexCat** **vote jpei** For the single most anti-Town thing anyone’s done all day. ---
**Author:** ![Gryff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Gryff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gryff)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/704 "2009-10-02T12:40:54Z")
**GuiriEnEspaña** I know you subbed in, so you may not be aware that editing is normally not allowed in Mafia games here, sometimes backed up by mod lightning bolts. Though, looking now, I see no rule against it for this game. Nonetheless it will usually get you lynched if not fried. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/705 "2009-10-02T12:41:17Z")
This role would have been great at endgame, but at the rate it was going, he wasn’t going to make it to endgame. If he claimed truthfully but didn’t use the power, he’s a prime target for scum to NK. If he claimed untruthfully it’s all bad for reasons I stated upthread. If he’s scum, he’s just now used a very potent scum power. Like **peeker** , we should accept his claim (provided the mods confirm, which I’d imagine they will) for the time being, but we should not necessarily accept his _alignment_ as the game moves forward from toDay. I do think he should vote very soon, however–this day has been long enough and we need to move on and get some information. At this rate, half the players are going to claim before it’s over. I think it’s scummy to extend the Day too long at this point. ---
**Author:** ![tiltawhirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@tiltawhirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiltawhirl)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/706 "2009-10-02T12:41:45Z")
This is admittedly a quick & dirty (if it turns not to be last-minute because of the day extensioin) on my part but it’s the best I’ve got. **BillMC** votes Boozy because Boozy interpreted **peekercpa** ’s “a doctor” claim to mean that there were multiple doctors. Others had made the same interpretation, so why single out Boozy? **Vote BillMC** ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/707 "2009-10-02T12:56:31Z")
:: shakes head in disbelief :: I’m not actually sure what to say. Approximate vote count: jpei (5): OAOW, TexCat, Alka Seltzer, Daphne Black, Tom Scud OneandOnlyWanders(1): Chronos peekercpa(3): Gryph, Boozahol Squid, PI, Cold Phoenix Drain Bead (4): Normal Phase, Freudian Slit, UCSDriver, CatInASuit Bill MC(3): Jimmy Chitwood, Drain Bead, tiltawhirl Chronos(1): AllWalker(leader) Boozahol Squid, PI(2): Bill MC, Thing Fish Freudian Slit (1): OreDigger77 CatInASuit (1): amrussell Cold Phoenix (1): peekercpa Non Voters: jpei, GuiriEnEspaña Claims: Drain Bead: Vanilla peekercpa: Doctor jpei: Town Governer ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/708 "2009-10-02T13:00:37Z")
> [@Gryff](#): > > **GuiriEnEspaña** > > I know you subbed in, so you may not be aware that editing is normally not allowed in Mafia games here, sometimes backed up by mod lightning bolts. > > Though, looking now, I see no rule against it for this game. Nonetheless it will usually get you lynched if not fried. Thank you for pointing this out, I am actively searching for a Mafia rule book or post where I can find general rules. FTR, I snipped **Thing Fish** ’s post but forgot to add “/snipped” and didn’t want to get accused of misrepresenting another player’s post. No posts from **Jpei** for a while; no reply from Mods; possibly less than 1 hour left in Day 1… ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/709 "2009-10-02T13:08:39Z")
Actually, I have one question for **jpei**. If you didn’t like the Leader, according to your claim, you could always take over once. There is nothing from your quoted PM that would stop you voting either. So why didn’t you vote on the Day 1 Leader as according to your quoted PM you could always reverse the result? ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/710 "2009-10-02T13:10:38Z")
I am going to be away for the next few hours and am leaving my vote on jpei for the moment. If the day is extended, I’ll have time to move it later. If the day is not extended, I’ll be happy to leave it on jpei. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/711 "2009-10-02T13:19:03Z")
Would have loved to hear from our mods before I had to head off to court. I’ll be back around noonish to read but may not have time to post until the afternoon. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/712 "2009-10-02T13:26:39Z")
> [@jpei](#): > > My canned post: > > This day isn’t over yet, folks. > > My role PM is: > > [spoiler]Your role is: > > Head Miner (Town Governor) > > You are the most efficient and most leader-like of the miners–a rare combination. As such, you were founder of the local branch of the Miner’s Union (no affiliation with the warmongering unions elsewhere on the planet) and you quickly garnered much respect from the town. With this respect, you can easily establish yourself as town leader for the day…for a day. Even your commanding figure will come under fire if you attempt to sway the town more than once. There will be mutterings. Don’t do it. > > Summary: > > 1. At anytime during the Day, you can simply declare yourself to be town leader for the day, and it will be so. You cannot do this more than once.[/spoiler] > > I declare myself town leader for today. As I have not yet voted, the day won’t be ending quite yet. > > I am open for suggestions as to when this should really end. (I’m envisioning a Sunday afternoon vote to a Monday afternoon close at the moment.) > [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > **Question for Mods, does day 1 still end today at 9:52 AM, Eastern?** Not anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/713 "2009-10-02T13:30:03Z")
> [@Gryff](#): > > Yes, why exactly have you extended the (already long) day? > > I could see you doing it just to prove you have the power to avoid swinging, but that isn’t your justification, and actually participating with the game rather than lurking all this time would probably have been sufficient to manage that. In that case I would also expect you to only extended it a short while to prove the powers ability, rather than all weekend. > > You have also used up a power that could have helped town towards the end game when a scum controlled leader could have caused us real problems. > > Incidentally , this brings to mind a question > > **What happens if the leader is active, but just refuses to end the day until X happens. (i.e until vote goes his way, or other nefarious uses)** > > Even if, as appears likely, you are telling the truth this is still an anti-town action. I can’t see how this helps us? We have a back-up plan, don’t worry. I’m hoping that we never have to get into that, but we’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/714 "2009-10-02T13:31:01Z")
OK **unvote jpei** need a re-read to decide where my vote should go. Guess I have a couple of days now huh? ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/715 "2009-10-02T13:31:18Z")
> [@jpei](#): > > My canned post: > > This day isn’t over yet, folks. > > My role PM is: > > [spoiler]Your role is: > > Head Miner (Town Governor) > > You are the most efficient and most leader-like of the miners–a rare combination. As such, you were founder of the local branch of the Miner’s Union (no affiliation with the warmongering unions elsewhere on the planet) and you quickly garnered much respect from the town. With this respect, you can easily establish yourself as town leader for the day…for a day. Even your commanding figure will come under fire if you attempt to sway the town more than once. There will be mutterings. Don’t do it. > > Summary: > > 1. At anytime during the Day, you can simply declare yourself to be town leader for the day, and it will be so. You cannot do this more than once.[/spoiler] > > I declare myself town leader for today. As I have not yet voted, the day won’t be ending quite yet. > > I am open for suggestions as to when this should really end. (I’m envisioning a Sunday afternoon vote to a Monday afternoon close at the moment.) Congratulations! You’re the new leader right now. This has the consequence of stopping the countdown and allowing Allwalker to move his vote freely again. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/716 "2009-10-02T13:32:19Z")
jpei (4): TexCat, Alka Seltzer, Daphne Black, Tom Scud OneandOnlyWanders(1): Chronos peekercpa(3): Gryph, Boozahol Squid, PI, Cold Phoenix Drain Bead (4): Normal Phase, Freudian Slit, UCSDriver, CatInASuit Bill MC(3): Jimmy Chitwood, Drain Bead, tiltawhirl Chronos(1): AllWalker(leader) Boozahol Squid, PI(2): Bill MC, Thing Fish Freudian Slit (1): OreDigger77 CatInASuit (1): amrussell Cold Phoenix (1): peekercpa ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/717 "2009-10-02T13:36:16Z")
I’m not inclined to move my vote at this point, although I do reserve the right in this now freakishly-long Day. **jpei** has been playing anti-Town and the way he has chosen to use his power is very anti-Town. Also I see no reason why he could not be scum with this one-shot power. Grr argh. ---
**Author:** ![Gryff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Gryff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gryff)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/718 "2009-10-02T13:36:29Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > We have a back-up plan, don’t worry. I’m hoping that we never have to get into that, but we’ll see. Cool, though I have another question, though it is not really relevant unless someone else has this power.. \*\*What happens if someone with this power votes, lets 23:55 minutes goes by and then declares as leader? What if they let 48 hours go by?\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/719 "2009-10-02T13:40:05Z")
> [@Gryff](#): > > Cool, though I have another question, though it is not really relevant unless someone else has this power.. > > \*\*What happens if someone with this power votes, lets 23:55 minutes goes by and then declares as leader? > > What if they let 48 hours go by?\*\* 1. They start the countdown, which goes for 24 hours. 2. Same as 1. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/720 "2009-10-02T13:43:46Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > Of these I find Tilt, Cold, and FS to be the most bandwagony and most like to be scum hitching a ride to lynching town. Tilt is pinging as a bit of a confused newbie. Cold has barely been playing with a total of 7 game posts 2 of which were fluff but he did unvote Drain once his accusations were answered. FS has disappeared the last couple of days and so may have just been too busy to post a real vote but I also think that there is too much experience there to be allowed to get away with such a lame vote post. > > **Vote FS** Well, this game has gone a lot faster than I thought it would so it’s a little hard to keep up. I don’t think I’ve done anything scummy other than not post a lot and hitch to a bandwagon but I’ll try to see if I can read and get a hold of what’s going on. (Why do I so often feel like a student who hasn’t done the reading and then doesn’t go to class and then doesn’t do the reading because there’s no point and then eventually gets failed or something?) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938.md?page=35) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938.md?page=37)