# Screamers Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 21, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938 "2009-09-21T13:16:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 46
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/901 "2009-10-06T01:31:53Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > Don’t be a twit. Vig targets you, you self protect, and now there’s someone else out there who buys your claim. did you miss the part about if the scum have a blocker? ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/902 "2009-10-06T01:56:25Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > did you miss the part about if the scum have a blocker? Sorry, I was overwhelmed by my opinion that you’re not a Doc. Next time, I’ll pay more attention to your fancies. ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/903 "2009-10-06T04:52:24Z")
I hate colour that makes me look like a moron. Still, at least I got to slice something. Sorry, Bill. May angels guide you to meatspace. ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/904 "2009-10-06T15:20:17Z")
All right, I love it when data comes together! > [@CatInASuit](#): > > Hmm, been a long weekend and just catching up. > > First off, this caught my eye. The people who expressed a preference were > > Tuesday vote: CIAS #161, thing Fish #210, tom scud #248, jpei #267 , Normal Phase #279 > Thursday vote: oredigger #250, FS #269 > > So, any reason for going with the less popular option. :dubious: > [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > This, combined with his “accidentally” misremembering the expressed opinions of Town in order to give us a long Day One, which, as I said, I think just gives us more time to shoot ourselves in the foot, has me starting to feel suspicious of AllWalker. > [@CatInASuit](#): > > \ > > Did I take it personally, probably true, since \*\*Allwalker \*\*did the something similar in the Day about the end time for the game. > > \ > > **AllWalker** - why did you choose Friday as the end date when most people preferred Wednesday? > > \ So apparently, some people didn’t like me choosing Thursday. The explanantion I gave, which I threw out to address **Cias** ’s first query, then attracted **Thing Fish** ’s attention: > [@AllWalker](#): > > I hope people are cool with a Friday finish - I didn’t exactly count the number of people who wanted a particular day for me to vote, I just kind of estimated. Apparently I should stick to counting. But this has been a busy Day 1 - maybe it’s just as well. The accusations are there, that I deliberately set the Day to end Thursday as part of some sinister agenda. Yeah, okay. But now I am feeling obsessive enough to check **CiaS** ’s list, and find it a bit, well, full of crap. On looking over early Day 1 for references to preferred leader vote times, I come up with this list: **End Day time analysis** Tom Scud - fine with Thursday (126) Oredigger want Thursday (128) Tom Scud suggests Thursday (151) _CiaS wants Tuesday (161) TF wants Tuesday (210) Tom Scud wants Tuesday (248) Oredigger again mentions Thursday end (250)_ Daphne - Wednesday or Thursday (252) I was sworn in in a lavish ceremony (261) Oredigger, again, mentions a Thursday end (265) _jpei wants Tuesday or Friday (267) FS wants Thursday or Friday (269)_ I was sworn in again, just to confirm there was no major vote miscount, I guess (270) _Normal Phase likes Tuesday (279)_ Normal Phase prefers Wednesday (midday) to Tuesday (290) I announce time of vote cast to be Thursday 10am EST (331) The entries in italics are the ones included on CiaS’s list. But nice work - accuse me of sloppiness, of overlooking things, of ignoring data, when my own list is practically double the length of yours - even ignoring the “I was sworn in” entries. Granted, **Oredigger** shows up on my list multiple times, but if I am scanning the thread looking for preferred times and Thursday keeps popping up, is it any mystery I ended up counting Thursday votes more? I particularly like **Normal Phase** - CiaS’s list includes him in favour of Tuesday, but he actually said he preferred a Wednesday vote for a Thursday finish shortly later. Everyone makes mistakes, but if you wont forgive mine I certainly wont forgive the grevious ones you make in the post pointing out my mistakes. Also, not included on either list was my own preference, mainly because I did not feel the need to tell myself. But I preferred a Thursday vote, too. Ignoring my vote that puts it 5 votes to 3, (not the 5 to 2 CiaS would have you believe,) including it is 5 votes to 4, and given Oredigger and **Tom Scud** ’s\* repetition on their opinion for Thursday, is it really any mystery I picked Thursday? In conclusion, if you are one of the people who thought I either fucked up the time or deliberately chose Thursday to further some mysterious Scum agenda you can bite my balls, because nothing undermines an accusation like basing it on incomplete and incorrect data. \*check the list. Scud eventually chose Tuesday but mentioned Thursday a few times before changing his mind. ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/905 "2009-10-06T15:27:57Z")
> [@AllWalker](#): > > Also, not included on either list was my own preference, mainly because I did not feel the need to tell myself. But I preferred a Thursday vote, too. Ignoring my vote that puts it 5 votes to 3, (not the 5 to 2 CiaS would have you believe,) including it is 5 votes to 4, and given Oredigger and Tom Scud’s\* repetition on their opinion for Thursday, is it really any mystery I picked Thursday? Well, I did it. Gaudere’s Law, maths edition - accuse someone of miscounting and in that post you yourself will do it to. With these numbers I was working off CiaS’s list and including Normal Phase, so my point is even stronger. I am overrepresenting CiaS’ argument. _Ignoring my vote that puts it 4 votes to 3, (not the 5 to 2 CiaS would have you believe,) including it is 4 votes to 4, and given Oredigger and Tom Scud’s_ repetition on their opinion for Thursday, is it really any mystery I picked Thursday?\* ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/906 "2009-10-06T15:29:59Z")
OK, folks, a little voting chronology. This should help us see patterns in vote-shifts, bandwagons etc. From the top: Boozy votes AlkaSeltzer - [287](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11598039&postcount=287) Normal Phase votes jpei - [290](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11598563&postcount=290) OAOW votes jpei - [300](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11599384&postcount=300) Freudian Slit votes jpei - [306](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11599720&postcount=306) peeker votes Tom Scud - [312](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11599812&postcount=312) Chronos votes OAOW - [318](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11600072&postcount=318) Tom Scud votes peeker - [342](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11600072&postcount=318) Drain Bead votes Chronos - [345](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11602948&postcount=345) Jimmy Chitwood votes peeker - [348](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11603101&postcount=348) Gryff votes peeker - [368](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11604767&postcount=368) Nanook (Guiri) votes peeker - [380](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11605306&postcount=380) _peeker is now vote-leader, one ahead of jpei_ amrussell votes Drain Bead - [387](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11605587&postcount=387) Normal Phase unvotes jpei, votes Drain Bead - [392](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11605754&postcount=392) Alka Seltzer votes Drain Bead - [396](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11605990&postcount=396) Freudian slit unvotes jpei - [406](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11606776&postcount=406) DaphneBlack votes Drain Bead - [409](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11606889&postcount=409) Freudian Slit votes Drain Bead - [410](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11606917&postcount=410) \*\* Official vote count: Alky Seltzer (1): Boozahol Octo, FBI jpeg (1): OAoW Mot Scud(1): peekra The One and Only(1): Kronzor Pecear(4): Tom Scad, Jimminy Chitwick, Gruff, Nook Cronos(1): Braid Dean The Dread Bean (5): amrussett, Abnormal Phase, Alka Celtser, DaphkneeBlack, Freudian Skip\*\* \*Drain Bead has overtaken peeker, in a very short space of time \* Thing Fish votes peeker - [423](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11608390&postcount=423) TexCat votes jpei - [424](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11608425&postcount=424) Cold Phoenix votes Drain Bead - [437](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11609585&postcount=437) Drain Bead votes Normal Phase - [438](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11609597&postcount=438) tiltawhirl votes Drain Bead - [443](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11609702&postcount=443) Boozahol unvotes Alka Seltzer - [444](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11609753&postcount=444) USCDiver votes Drain Bead - [458](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11611027&postcount=458) Oredigger votes peeker - [464](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11611426&postcount=464) _Drain Bead has risen to 8, while peeker is keeping in touch on 6. jpei is way down on 2._ Alka-Seltzer unvotes Drain Bead - [467](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11611616&postcount=467) _With 6 votes to DB’s 7, peeker claims doc_ Jimmy Chitwood unvotes peeker - [486](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11611939&postcount=486) Tom Scud unvotes peeker - [489](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11611984&postcount=489) Tom Scud votes Oredigger - [501](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11612299&postcount=501) Boozahol votes Tom Scud - [507](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11612859&postcount=507) Boozahol unvotes Tom Scud, votes Oredigger - [508](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11612859&postcount=508) Cold Phoenix unvotes Drain Bead - [515](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11613046&postcount=515) Drain Bead votes Oredigger - [518](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11613214&postcount=518) Thing Fish unvotes peeker - [519](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11613240&postcount=519) tiltawhirl unvotes Drain Bead - [520](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11613318&postcount=520) DaphneBlack unvotes Drain Bead - [522](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11613377&postcount=522) Oredigger unvotes peeker - [523](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11613503&postcount=523) Thing Fish votes Boozy - [536](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11614286&postcount=536) Boozy votes peeker - [553](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11615353&postcount=553) Tom Scud unvotes Oredigger, votes AllWalker - [555](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11615486&postcount=555) Guiri votes peeker as reiteration of Nanook’s vote - [557](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11615538&postcount=557) \*\*[Official vote count](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11615879&postcount=571) jpeg (2): OAoW, TxtKitty Mot Scud(1): peekra The One and Only(1): Da’Chronic Pecear(4): Gruff, Oredigger, Boozy, GuiniPizza The Dread Bean (4): amrussett, Abnormal Phase, Freudian Skit, UPSDriver Borerigger(1): Brainbleed AllWalker(1): Scudmissile \*\* _NB - an error in the count. Oredigger unvoted peeker (see above). Peeker is apparently tied with Drain Bead, actually 1 vote behind. In any case, nearer to a lynch than when he claimed._ peeker unvotes Tom Scud, votes BillMC - [577](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11616176&postcount=577) CatInASuit votes Drain Bead - [581](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11616705&postcount=581) Guiri unvotes peeker - [596](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11616847&postcount=596) Alka Seltzer votes jpei - [604](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11617127&postcount=604) Tom Scud unvotes AllWalker, votes Oredigger - [605](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11617128&postcount=605) AllWalker votes Chronos - [609](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11617154&postcount=609) _As far as anyone knows at this point, the 24-hour countdown has begun_ \*\*[Official vote count](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11617325&postcount=624) jpeg (3): OAoW, TxtKitty, Alkaseltzer The One and Only(1): Da’Chronic Pecear(2): Gruff, Boozy, The Dread Bean (5): amrussett, Abnormal Phase, Freudian Skit, UPSDriver, KittySoot Borerigger(2): Brainbleed, Scudmissile M.C. Billy(1): Pecear Da’Chronic(1): AllWalker(leader) \*\* _DB is out in front, jpei has moved into second over peeker_ Tom Scud unvotes Oredigger, votes TexCat - [625](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11617426&postcount=625) DaphneBlack votes jpei - [627](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11617577&postcount=627) BillMC votes Boozy - [628](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11617753&postcount=628) Jimmy Chitwood votes BillMC - [630](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11617832&postcount=630) Drain Bead votes BillMC - [631](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11617832&postcount=631) Guiri votes jpei - [642](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11618374&postcount=642) Oredigger votes Freudian Slit - [643](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11618406&postcount=643) amrussell unvotes DB, votes CatInASuit - [659](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11618934&postcount=659) _With that unvote, jpei is now vote leader_ **[Official vote count](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11619076&postcount=663): jpeg (5): OAoW, TxtKitty, Alkaseltzer, DaffyBlk, GuyinSpain The One and Only(1): Da’Chronic Pecear(2): Gruff, Boozy, The Dread Bean (4): Abnormal Phase, Freudian Skit, UPSDriver, KittySoot M.C. Billy(3): Pecear, JiminiyShitblood, Brainbleed Da’Chronic(1): AllWalker(leader) TxtKitty(1): Scudmissile Boozy(2): MCBilly, FishThingy Freudulan Slit (1): Arr!Digger77 CAIS (1): amrustle** Cold Phoenix votes peeker - [680](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11620266&postcount=680) peeker unvotes BillMC, votes Cold Phoenix - [689](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11620266&postcount=680) _At this point, jpei announces that he’s taking over as leader, thus extending the day. Votes shortly before this point should be looked upon as probably the final votes players intended making on Day One._ Guiri unvotes jpei - [691](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11620377&postcount=691) Tom Scud unvotes TexCat, votes jpei - [705](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11620511&postcount=705) tiltawhilrl votes BillMC - [708](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11620523&postcount=708) OAOW unvotes jpei - [716](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11620638&postcount=716) Alka Seltzer unvotes jpei - [724](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11620754&postcount=724) Oredigger unvotes Freudian Slit, votes Cold Phoenix - [726](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11620770&postcount=725) Freudian Slit unvotes Drain Bead, votes jpei - [727](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11620861&postcount=727) TexCat unvotes jpei - [739](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11621570&postcount=739) AllWalker unvotes Chronos, votes jpei - [740](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11621636&postcount=740) Tom Scud unvotes jpei - [748](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11622368&postcount=748) \*\* [Official vote count](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11622460&postcount=749) jpei (3): Daphne Black, Freudian Slit, Allwalker OneandOnlyWanders(1): Chronos peekercpa(3): Gryph, Boozahol Squid, PI, Cold Phoenix Drain Bead (3): Normal Phase, USCDriver, CatInASuit Bill MC(3): Jimmy Chitwood, Drain Bead, tiltawhirl Boozahol Squid, PI(2): Bill MC, Thing Fish CatInASuit (1): amrussell Cold Phoenix (2): peekercpa, Oredigger \*\* _We have a four-way tie, with peeker and Drain Bead still at risk of lynching despite significant unvoting for both_ Alka Seltzer votes BillMC - [766](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11624165&postcount=766) Daphne Black unvotes jpei, votes BillMC - [768](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11624259&postcount=768) AllWalker unvotes jpei, votes BillMC - [799](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11625777&postcount=799) Chronos unvotes OAOW, votes Boozahol - [805](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11626077&postcount=805) peeker unvotes Cold Phoenix - [807](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11626102&postcount=807) TexCat votes BillMC - [817](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11626916&postcount=817) Tom Scud votes CIAS - [819](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11627091&postcount=819) jpei votes BillMC - [822](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11627398&postcount=822) peeker votes Tom Scud - [835](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11627650&postcount=835) Normal Phase unvotes Drain Bead, votes Chronos - [838](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11628024&postcount=838) Guiri unvotes, votes Cold Phoenix - [869](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11628024&postcount=838) \*\*[Final Vote Count](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11631100&postcount=880): jpei (1): Freudian Slit peekercpa(3): Gryph, Boozahol Squid, PI, Cold Phoenix Drain Bead (2): USCDriver, CatInASuit Bill MC(8): Jimmy Chitwood, Drain Bead, tiltawhirl, Alka Seltzer, Daphne Black, Allwalker, Texcat, jpei (Leader) Boozahol Squid, PI(3): Bill MC, Thing Fish, Chronos CatInASuit (2): amrussell, Tom Scud Cold Phoenix (2): Oredigger, Guiri Tom Scud(1): Peeker Chronos(1): Normal Phase\*\* OK - hopefully that’s captured some usable data. Having gone through it, there are a couple of things that have jumped out at me that I want to compare to various players’ post content. But I would encourage people to go through this themselves and see what they make of it, rather than relying on one or two people to interpret it for us. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/907 "2009-10-06T15:31:55Z")
I’m actually female. I don’t really care, or I would have specified in my profile, but since I keep being referred to as “he” and “mate”, I may as well mention it. Also, I’m having a _sh_\*\*_y_ day. I don’t want to be bartender anymore; someone just pass me a bottle of something alcoholic and I’ll leave you alone. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/908 "2009-10-06T15:41:25Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > Holy Crap! I’m trying my best to keep up, but I’m not doing a very good job of it. I’m happy where my vote is now. There were a couple of **Drain’s** posts a few pages back that had me raising my eyebrows again, but I don’t really have the time to go back and link them right now. I’m going to be out of town for the weekend, but since it’s Night that shouldn’t affect me too much. I anticipate catching up Sunday afternoon. If my participation has been too lacking y’all let me know and I’ll ask for a sub. That’s **USCDiver’s** most recent post, on Friday just before **jpei** ’s coup. What does anyone think? ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/909 "2009-10-06T15:43:40Z")
Wow **amrussel** , that was some nice simulposting. That’s a lot for everyone to read 🙂 **Normal Phase** - sorry about that. Care to fool around? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/910 "2009-10-06T15:47:19Z")
Thank you for the offer, but I’d rather get drunk. ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/911 "2009-10-06T16:01:10Z")
Fair enough. I get that a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/912 "2009-10-06T16:10:54Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > That’s **USCDiver’s** most recent post, on Friday just before **jpei** ’s coup. > > What does anyone think? At the time, I thought it was a smudge. Now, I think it was a smudge. My opinion is probably colored by the fact that I know I’m Town. Curious to see what YOU think of it, though, since you’re the one who singled it out. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/913 "2009-10-06T16:13:30Z")
_huge grin_ That is just so charming. Also, **amrussel** , that is awesome. Like, seriously. Kudos. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/914 "2009-10-06T16:26:35Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > At the time, I thought it was a smudge. > > Now, I think it was a smudge. > > My opinion is probably colored by the fact that I know I’m Town. Curious to see what YOU think of it, though, since you’re the one who singled it out. Ah, I was thinking more of **USCDiver’s** asking if we should ask him to request a sub. On which I’m torn, as I basically don’t like subbing anyone out. On the other hand, he didn’t make the posts he said he was going to make on Sunday afternoon, so I don’t know if he’s going to be able to continue playing. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/915 "2009-10-06T16:34:52Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > I’m actually female. I don’t really care… Neither does **AllWalker**. Anyway, my condolences re: your day. [Here](http://www.modernpooch.com/archives/whiplash1.jpg) is the picture of a cowboy monkey riding a dog that you implicitly requested. **amrussell** , good stuff, that. Off the top of my head, this interval: > [@](#): > > Official vote count > jpei (3): Daphne Black, Freudian Slit, Allwalker > OneandOnlyWanders(1): Chronos > peekercpa(3): Gryph, Boozahol Squid, PI, Cold Phoenix > Drain Bead (3): Normal Phase, USCDriver, CatInASuit > Bill MC(3): Jimmy Chitwood, Drain Bead, tiltawhirl > Boozahol Squid, PI(2): Bill MC, Thing Fish > CatInASuit (1): amrussell > Cold Phoenix (2): peekercpa, Oredigger > > We have a four-way tie, with peeker and Drain Bead still at risk of lynching despite significant unvoting for both > > Alka Seltzer votes BillMC - 766 > Daphne Black unvotes jpei, votes BillMC - 768 > AllWalker unvotes jpei, votes BillMC - 799 > Chronos unvotes OAOW, votes Boozahol - 805 > peeker unvotes Cold Phoenix - 807 > TexCat votes BillMC - 817 > Tom Scud votes CIAS - 819 > jpei votes BillMC - 822 > peeker votes Tom Scud - 835 > Normal Phase unvotes Drain Bead, votes Chronos - 838 > Guiri unvotes, votes Cold Phoenix - 869 seems like a good starting point for further investigation, since it’s the one that damned a townie. Of course, it damned the townie that I put the first vote on, but that’s not important right now. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/916 "2009-10-06T16:39:55Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Ah, I was thinking more of **USCDiver’s** asking if we should ask him to request a sub. On which I’m torn, as I basically don’t like subbing anyone out. On the other hand, he didn’t make the posts he said he was going to make on Sunday afternoon, so I don’t know if he’s going to be able to continue playing. And there’s me being wishy-washy again. **USCDiver, do you think you’ll be able to play more this week?** ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/917 "2009-10-06T17:13:02Z")
I don’t know, **Drain Bead** , that doesn’t look all that smudgy to me. “Posts that had me raising my eyebrows” just sounds to me like the sort of fine-tooth-combing that everyone does to everyone else in these games. Meanwhile, another idea: It occurs to me that we can put peeker’s claim to at least a partial test. Suppose peeker were to post, a minute before the end of the Night (or even right at the scheduled Crack of Dawn, since it’s likely to take the moderators a minute or two to post the Dawn reveal post), whom he protected over the Night? This would presumably be too late for the Scum to change their target, but as long as it comes before the moderator post, it would enable us to see whether his protectee lived or died. Can anyone come up with any flaws with this idea? ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/918 "2009-10-06T17:53:09Z")
Lets us know who **peeker** thinks is worth protecting; doesn’t resolve the issue that he might be a Scum doctor; and doesn’t account for the possibility of roleblockers or redirectors playing games with us. Other than that, no issues. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/919 "2009-10-06T18:26:20Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I don’t know, **Drain Bead** , that doesn’t look all that smudgy to me. “Posts that had me raising my eyebrows” just sounds to me like the sort of fine-tooth-combing that everyone does to everyone else in these games. I thought it was a smudge because he said there were things that bothered him, but didn’t bother stating what the things were (kinda like the “a bunch” smudge I pointed out earlier). My thoughts were confirmed as time went on and he didn’t bother actually pointing out the posts I made–I always figured that even if he did come back to the game, he probably wouldn’t bother posting his evidence. Again, though, since I know I’m Town, my perceptions of his actions are colored by that knowledge, and I’m perfectly willing to accept the fact that others may not view it as such. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/920 "2009-10-06T18:52:53Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Lets us know who **peeker** thinks is worth protecting; doesn’t resolve the issue that he might be a Scum doctor; and doesn’t account for the possibility of roleblockers or redirectors playing games with us. > > Other than that, no issues. 🙂 Took me forever to get the boards to load after my last post to post this… It also, provided **peeker** says he protected someone other than himself, may clue the scum into whether or not he can. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938.md?page=45) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938.md?page=47)