# Screamers Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 21, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938 "2009-09-21T13:16:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 54
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1061 "2009-10-08T16:42:19Z")
The little arrow thingy next to the “Originally posted by **NAME** ” text at the start of a quote box, that is. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1062 "2009-10-08T16:46:45Z")
In fact, here’s the exchange. > [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > I actually kinda like the substantive Night posts–it makes them go faster. I get twitchy waiting for Day when I’m Town and can’t do anything but drink fake booze. > > The only other game I was in where Town could strategize at Night, Scum could during the Day, so that’s something we should consider. I think in that game the fact that Scum could day-strategize was made clear, though. Can’t remember at this point–I think it was the Firefly game. > [@Alka\_Seltzer](#): > > **COLOR="bleach"Mods: Can the scum talk strategy during the day in this game?[/COLOR]** > [@pedescribe](#): > > Every group can talk strategy Day and Night. That includes the Town, the Scum, and any other secret communicative roles that may or may not be in this game. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1063 "2009-10-08T17:25:05Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > The little arrow thingy next to the “Originally posted by **NAME** ” text at the start of a quote box, that is. No shit. Learn something new every day. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1064 "2009-10-08T19:36:29Z")
OK, I just mashed up amrussell’s voting recap with CIAS’s WoW on Jimmy, just selecting the Jimmy posts that seemed of some interest, in case that helps anyone else see anything. It’s really long and possibly of no use whatsoever, so I’m hiding it in spoiler tags. It looks like a lot of garbage html in the editing window so I’m going to maybe come back and look at it again after I post it and see if anything new stands out. > [@amrussell](#): > > OK, folks, a little voting chronology. This should help us see patterns in vote-shifts, bandwagons etc. From the top: > > Boozy votes AlkaSeltzer - [287](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11598039&postcount=287) > Normal Phase votes jpei - [290](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11598563&postcount=290) > OAOW votes jpei - [300](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11599384&postcount=300) > Freudian Slit votes jpei - [306](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11599720&postcount=306) > peeker votes Tom Scud - [312](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11599812&postcount=312) > Chronos votes OAOW - [318](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11600072&postcount=318) > > Jimmy #322: Disagrees with Chronos’s reasoming over his vote for OAOW > > Tom Scud votes peeker - [342](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11600072&postcount=318) > Drain Bead votes Chronos - [345](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11602948&postcount=345) > Jimmy Chitwood votes peeker - [348](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11603101&postcount=348) > > Jimmy #352: Response to and analysis on peekercpa. This line really jumps out at me - **I’ll take my chances since you aren’t helping my team much anyway.** > > Gryff votes peeker - [368](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11604767&postcount=368) > Nanook (Guiri) votes peeker - [380](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11605306&postcount=380) > > _peeker is now vote-leader, one ahead of jpei_ > > amrussell votes Drain Bead - [387](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11605587&postcount=387) > Normal Phase unvotes jpei, votes Drain Bead - [392](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11605754&postcount=392) > Alka Seltzer votes Drain Bead - [396](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11605990&postcount=396) > Freudian slit unvotes jpei - [406](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11606776&postcount=406) > DaphneBlack votes Drain Bead - [409](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11606889&postcount=409) > Freudian Slit votes Drain Bead - [410](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11606917&postcount=410) > \*\* > Official vote count: > Alky Seltzer (1): Boozahol Octo, FBI > jpeg (1): OAoW > Mot Scud(1): peekra > The One and Only(1): Kronzor > Pecear(4): Tom Scad, Jimminy Chitwick, Gruff, Nook > Cronos(1): Braid Dean > The Dread Bean (5): amrussett, Abnormal Phase, Alka Celtser, DaphkneeBlack, Freudian Skip\*\* > > \*Drain Bead has overtaken peeker, in a very short space of time \* > > Thing Fish votes peeker - [423](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11608390&postcount=423) > TexCat votes jpei - [424](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11608425&postcount=424) > Cold Phoenix votes Drain Bead - [437](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11609585&postcount=437) > Drain Bead votes Normal Phase - [438](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11609597&postcount=438) > tiltawhirl votes Drain Bead - [443](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11609702&postcount=443) > Boozahol unvotes Alka Seltzer - [444](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11609753&postcount=444) > USCDiver votes Drain Bead - [458](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11611027&postcount=458) > > Jimmy #463: Analysis on the Drain Bead thread. Interesting post. JC says the first point raised by amrussell is not legitimate and that DB’s actions were consistent over her actions towards OAOW and Chronos. Secondly is willing to give DB the benefit of doubt over her paranoia towards the Lie Detector because the same occured to him. He also points the finger carefully without naming players over those who jumped on the Drain Bead wagon to begin with. I would hazard a guess then that those initial people are more likely to be town then. > > Oredigger votes peeker - [464](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11611426&postcount=464) > > _Drain Bead has risen to 8, while peeker is keeping in touch on 6. jpei is way down on 2._ > > Alka-Seltzer unvotes Drain Bead - [467](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11611616&postcount=467) > > _With 6 votes to DB’s 7, peeker claims doc_ > > Jimmy #484: Response to peekercpa’s claim of doctor > > Jimmy Chitwood unvotes peeker - [486](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11611939&postcount=486) > Tom Scud unvotes peeker - [489](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11611984&postcount=489) > Tom Scud votes Oredigger - [501](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11612299&postcount=501) > > Jimmy #503: Smear on Oredigger about OAOW’s partial roleclaim. Prods peekercpa about single/multiple docs in town > > Boozahol votes Tom Scud - [507](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11612859&postcount=507) > Boozahol unvotes Tom Scud, votes Oredigger - [508](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11612859&postcount=508) > Cold Phoenix unvotes Drain Bead - [515](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11613046&postcount=515) > Drain Bead votes Oredigger - [518](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11613214&postcount=518) > Thing Fish unvotes peeker - [519](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11613240&postcount=519) > tiltawhirl unvotes Drain Bead - [520](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11613318&postcount=520) > DaphneBlack unvotes Drain Bead - [522](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11613377&postcount=522) > Oredigger unvotes peeker - [523](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11613503&postcount=523) > Thing Fish votes Boozy - [536](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11614286&postcount=536) > Boozy votes peeker - [553](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11615353&postcount=553) > Tom Scud unvotes Oredigger, votes AllWalker - [555](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11615486&postcount=555) > Guiri votes peeker as reiteration of Nanook’s vote - [557](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11615538&postcount=557) > > \*\*[Official vote count](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11615879&postcount=571) > jpeg (2): OAoW, TxtKitty > Mot Scud(1): peekra > The One and Only(1): Da’Chronic > Pecear(4): Gruff, Oredigger, Boozy, GuiniPizza > The Dread Bean (4): amrussett, Abnormal Phase, Freudian Skit, UPSDriver > Borerigger(1): Brainbleed > AllWalker(1): Scudmissile \*\* > > _NB - an error in the count. Oredigger unvoted peeker (see above). Peeker is apparently tied with Drain Bead, actually 1 vote behind. In any case, nearer to a lynch than when he claimed._ > > peeker unvotes Tom Scud, votes BillMC - [577](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11616176&postcount=577) > CatInASuit votes Drain Bead - [581](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11616705&postcount=581) > Guiri unvotes peeker - [596](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11616847&postcount=596) > Alka Seltzer votes jpei - [604](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11617127&postcount=604) > Tom Scud unvotes AllWalker, votes Oredigger - [605](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11617128&postcount=605) > AllWalker votes Chronos - [609](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11617154&postcount=609) > > _As far as anyone knows at this point, the 24-hour countdown has begun_ > \*\*[Official vote count](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11617325&postcount=624) > jpeg (3): OAoW, TxtKitty, Alkaseltzer > The One and Only(1): Da’Chronic > Pecear(2): Gruff, Boozy, > The Dread Bean (5): amrussett, Abnormal Phase, Freudian Skit, UPSDriver, KittySoot > Borerigger(2): Brainbleed, Scudmissile > M.C. Billy(1): Pecear > Da’Chronic(1): AllWalker(leader) \*\* > _DB is out in front, jpei has moved into second over peeker_ > > Tom Scud unvotes Oredigger, votes TexCat - [625](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11617426&postcount=625) > DaphneBlack votes jpei - [627](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11617577&postcount=627) > BillMC votes Boozy - [628](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11617753&postcount=628) > Jimmy Chitwood votes BillMC - [630](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11617832&postcount=630) > Drain Bead votes BillMC - [631](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11617832&postcount=631) > Guiri votes jpei - [642](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11618374&postcount=642) > Oredigger votes Freudian Slit - [643](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11618406&postcount=643) > > Jimmy #654: Comments on scum claiming doc on first day. This line jumps out. \*\*To be very clear, though, I think that his claim is a lie. \*\* referring to peekercpa. > > amrussell unvotes DB, votes CatInASuit - [659](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11618934&postcount=659) > > _With that unvote, jpei is now vote leader_ > > **[Official vote count](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11619076&postcount=663): > jpeg (5): OAoW, TxtKitty, Alkaseltzer, DaffyBlk, GuyinSpain > The One and Only(1): Da’Chronic > Pecear(2): Gruff, Boozy, > The Dread Bean (4): Abnormal Phase, Freudian Skit, UPSDriver, KittySoot > M.C. Billy(3): Pecear, JiminiyShitblood, Brainbleed > Da’Chronic(1): AllWalker(leader) > TxtKitty(1): Scudmissile > Boozy(2): MCBilly, FishThingy > Freudulan Slit (1): Arr!Digger77 > CAIS (1): amrustle** > > Cold Phoenix votes peeker - [680](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11620266&postcount=680) > peeker unvotes BillMC, votes Cold Phoenix - [689](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11620266&postcount=680) > > _At this point, jpei announces that he’s taking over as leader, thus extending the day. Votes shortly before this point should be looked upon as probably the final votes players intended making on Day One._ > > Guiri unvotes jpei - [691](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11620377&postcount=691) > Tom Scud unvotes TexCat, votes jpei - [705](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11620511&postcount=705) > tiltawhilrl votes BillMC - [708](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11620523&postcount=708) > OAOW unvotes jpei - [716](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11620638&postcount=716) > Alka Seltzer unvotes jpei - [724](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11620754&postcount=724) > Oredigger unvotes Freudian Slit, votes Cold Phoenix - [726](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11620770&postcount=725) > Freudian Slit unvotes Drain Bead, votes jpei - [727](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11620861&postcount=727) > > Jimmy #738: Comment about jpei’s use of power. Also asks for someone to look at BillMC > > TexCat unvotes jpei - [739](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11621570&postcount=739) > AllWalker unvotes Chronos, votes jpei - [740](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11621636&postcount=740) > Tom Scud unvotes jpei - [748](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11622368&postcount=748) > > \*\* > [Official vote count](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11622460&postcount=749) > jpei (3): Daphne Black, Freudian Slit, Allwalker > OneandOnlyWanders(1): Chronos > peekercpa(3): Gryph, Boozahol Squid, PI, Cold Phoenix > Drain Bead (3): Normal Phase, USCDriver, CatInASuit > Bill MC(3): Jimmy Chitwood, Drain Bead, tiltawhirl > Boozahol Squid, PI(2): Bill MC, Thing Fish > CatInASuit (1): amrussell > Cold Phoenix (2): peekercpa, Oredigger \*\* > > _We have a four-way tie, with peeker and Drain Bead still at risk of lynching despite significant unvoting for both_ > > Alka Seltzer votes BillMC - [766](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11624165&postcount=766) > Daphne Black unvotes jpei, votes BillMC - [768](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11624259&postcount=768) > AllWalker unvotes jpei, votes BillMC - [799](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11625777&postcount=799) > Chronos unvotes OAOW, votes Boozahol - [805](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11626077&postcount=805) > peeker unvotes Cold Phoenix - [807](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11626102&postcount=807) > > Jimmy #809: says last 12 hours of gameplay has been anti-town > > TexCat votes BillMC - [817](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11626916&postcount=817) > Tom Scud votes CIAS - [819](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11627091&postcount=819) > jpei votes BillMC - [822](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11627398&postcount=822) > peeker votes Tom Scud - [835](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11627650&postcount=835) > Normal Phase unvotes Drain Bead, votes Chronos - [838](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11628024&postcount=838) > Guiri unvotes, votes Cold Phoenix - [869](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11628024&postcount=838) > \*\*[Final Vote Count](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11631100&postcount=880): > > jpei (1): Freudian Slit > peekercpa(3): Gryph, Boozahol Squid, PI, Cold Phoenix > Drain Bead (2): USCDriver, CatInASuit > Bill MC(8): Jimmy Chitwood, Drain Bead, tiltawhirl, Alka Seltzer, Daphne Black, Allwalker, Texcat, jpei (Leader) > Boozahol Squid, PI(3): Bill MC, Thing Fish, Chronos > CatInASuit (2): amrussell, Tom Scud > Cold Phoenix (2): Oredigger, Guiri > Tom Scud(1): Peeker > Chronos(1): Normal Phase\*\* > > Jimmy #875: Says the following: **For what it’s worth, I don’t think it’s a good idea to try to give peeker a witch trial by vig. Whether or not the vig is successful doesn’t turn on whether or not he’s scum; it turns on whether or not he’s a doctor with the ability to self-protect.** > > Jimmy #917: Comment on amrussells vote list as a good starting point for investigation. This probably means the people who voted next for BillMC are more likely town. > [@CatInASuit](#): > > Ok, looking over Jimmy Chitwood. > > WoW having found out he was scum. (Cat’s quote preserved to save the little arrow clicky-box.) ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1065 "2009-10-08T19:42:26Z")
It occurs to me that this: > [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > Of course, it damned the townie that I put the first vote on, but that’s not important right now. could be a very subtle smudge on **Drain Bead** , as it “promotes” her into the always-popular second-vote category, when in fact she was the third vote on Bill, after peeker’s subsequently unvoted first vote and then Jimmy. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1066 "2009-10-08T19:55:08Z")
Wait, I thought the third vote was supposed to be the traditionally-scummy one (if one sets any sort of stock at all in that sort of thing in the first place). ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1067 "2009-10-08T20:06:08Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > Well, the excitement never stops, does it? I’m not even going to begin to try to break down the layers of anti-town in the last 12 hours of gameplay tonight. > > On the bright side, there’ll be plenty to analyze later, right? Right? That was post 809, and may have just been noise. The events of the 12ish hours between this post and the previous Jimmy post (#776): peeker’s solo poker game AllWalker unvotes jpei, votes BillMC (799) Thing Fish lobbies for a Boozy vote (801) Chronos votes Boozy (805) peeker unvotes (807) jpei defends Boozy (808). So assuming he meant anything at all, it pretty much sounds like he was talking about the case against Boozy. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1068 "2009-10-08T20:07:14Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Wait, I thought the third vote was supposed to be the traditionally-scummy one (if one sets any sort of stock at all in that sort of thing in the first place). I guess I’ve heard both. (peeker voted for me for a second vote, among other reasons too variable to mention). ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1069 "2009-10-08T20:12:43Z")
It is now official, if it wasn’t already. \*\*Boozy is Day Two leader. \*\* Have fun, everyone! ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1070 "2009-10-08T20:15:43Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > So assuming he meant anything at all, it pretty much sounds like he was talking about the case against Boozy. (Boozy’s soft-claim, btw, fell well outside the 12-hour window). ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1071 "2009-10-08T20:19:52Z")
So. Additional points: 1 - As Drain Bead mentioned, Jimmy was poking at Chronos pretty much all Day. 2 - Jimmy was opposed to people voting for Boozy. And that’s what I’ve got for the moment. Plenty of time yet to try and pull anything together. ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1072 "2009-10-08T22:34:22Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Noted that there appears to be a correlation between being willing to trust \*\*Boozy \*\*and being willing to jump relatively late onto the \*\*BillMC \*\*bandwagon. Any particular reason our ‘willingness to trust Boozy’ is more interesting than the other people who voted for him for leader? I think his actions with jpei were strongly pro-town, and I don’t see how that can really be argued with. That doesn’t make him town, but it does make him a reasonable candidate to act as a pro-town leader. Two games now I’ve wound up voting for a lurker on Day One after initially resolving not to do it. I take responsibility for my vote; I thought Bill was not being pro-town when he was showing up, which was rarely. Bleurgh. I think those jumping on **Gryff** for claiming are misguided. Whilst there have been a large number of claims this game, I don’t think it’s been unusual or catastrophic really. And there is clearly a lot of disagreement, not all of which can be scum motivated, about the utility of partial claims or explanations which not under lynch pressure, so people making their own decisions on that front seems reasonable to me. > [@Oredigger](#): > > ith the scum being able to talk during the Day i think it’s a good idea to look for any patterns of someone rapidly changing how they’re playing or their style of play it might be a good sign of someone getting their leash yanked on the scum board. This does seem borne out by the behaviour of Jimmy. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1073 "2009-10-08T22:45:43Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Noted that **peeker’s** long, impassioned argument completely failed to touch on the actual reason that **Boozy, myself** and others have given multiple times for mistrusting him. which would be what, exactly? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1074 "2009-10-08T22:48:10Z")
> [@CatInASuit](#): > > Also can everyone make it clear when they would like Day 2 to end. Not when the leader should cast their vote, when Day should end. > > Tuesday: Tom Scud > Wednesday: CIAS > Thursday: peekercpa > > Any other opinions? > [@Alka\_Seltzer](#): > > I think the Days should end on Tuesday for now. At some point we might be able to have a short Day and get back to weekend nights, hopefully after a scum is outed. > [@Oredigger77](#): > > As far as when the Day should end i think we need to have it end on Thursday (Wednesday vote) so we can slowly switch our Days over to weekdays without having another marathon Day. So that’s 2 votes for Tuesday, one for Wednesday, and two for Thursday. Any further opinions? ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1075 "2009-10-08T22:57:18Z")
Day end on Wednesday this week would be best for me. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1076 "2009-10-08T23:03:28Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Noted that **peeker’s** long, impassioned argument completely failed to touch on the actual reason that **Boozy, myself** and others have given multiple times for mistrusting him. since i am in texas is this a 46C type of observation? ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1077 "2009-10-08T23:41:04Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > which would be what, exactly? That you claimed doc with an expectation of being counterclaimed. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1078 "2009-10-08T23:49:36Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > It looks like boozy is out leader toDay and I am curious what item was given to him and what it does. I’m not going to get into exactly what was given to me, although it really wasn’t that useful of an item. As far as the Day end, how about a Tuesday vote, for a Wednesday end? We’ll start the next day on the weekend, sure, but the governor vote seems to be a bit of a waste of time, and If we can start on substansive talks on Monday, I think things would work out much better. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1079 "2009-10-08T23:50:27Z")
**peeker** , speaking only for myself, what I find most suspicious about your claim is, first, you weren’t actually under all that much pressure when you made it; second, your emphasis of “ **A** doctor” looks like you’re covering your bases against a counter-claim; and third, your reluctance to say anything at all about the role that would provide a chance of confirming it (seriously, how would it help Scum for them to find out what your role is called?). On the other hand, if (as I suspect) **peeker** is lying, and if (as seems likely) we really do have a real Doctor in this game, then I imagine we’ll eventually get to a point where the real Doctor will find it appropriate to claim. I’m sure there’s more than two Scum in this game, so even if **peeker** is Scum, we can afford to wait and see on him, and hunt for other Scum in the mean time. The truth will come out sooner or later. ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1080 "2009-10-08T23:51:43Z")
While I don’t like all these claims, I have to blame the mods for a couple. Stop coercing players like that! Bad mods! But given that the mods are nudging us towards a couple of power roles so far and the Scum had an Investigator, I hope that means we have many, many roles as yet unrevealed. As mentioned upthread, it would suck if Scum lost their Investigator but it didn’t matter, since power roles kept claiming. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938.md?page=53) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938.md?page=55)