# Screamers Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 21, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938 "2009-09-21T13:16:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 67
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1321 "2009-10-13T01:03:00Z")
**Mods, can you send a PM to ping Freudian Slit to get her back in the thread?** ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1322 "2009-10-13T01:13:05Z")
i posited a suggestion of what i occurred. maybe so maybe no. but apparently you know better. how in the world could you be that convinced. oh, i get it. **vote drain bead** ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1323 "2009-10-13T01:15:09Z")
crap what happened to think. sheepdoodle what i think occurred. bad peek, to the backyard with you. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1324 "2009-10-13T01:20:07Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > NETA: This is seriously not making sense to me. One would think that Day-strategizing Scum would not say something as insane as “Scum blocked me but didn’t kill me because they were hoping to nab **texcat** , who they thought I was protecting for some insane reason,” especially when at least one other good reason for why Scum would block a Townie Doc **peeker** but not kill him has been articulated in this thread before **peeker** started going off the rails with this **texcat** stuff. > > Can anyone else help me get this? Because right now I’m feeling like this is so silly that I _have_ to be missing something crucial. well at least you got the part about me not being part of any daytime scum strategizing correct 'cause that would put me in the schizophrenic camp. gotta admit this game is driving us all a little bit nuts. **pede/mahaloth is this even close?** ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1325 "2009-10-13T01:22:20Z")
Aaaaaaaaaand we have an OMGUS. **peeker** , the appropriate thing to do when I called you out on this **texcat** stuff would be to say “Hey, it’s just a suggestion, and probably not a very good one at that,” rather than to try to defend something that is essentially indefensible and then vote me for pressing you on it, while THEN saying “hey, it’s just a suggestion.” Do you really think that me calling you out on _this_ makes me Scum? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1326 "2009-10-13T01:26:29Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > What does _not_ make sense is **peeker** ’s insistence that the reason the Scum blocked him and didn’t kill him was not because of this, or because they wanted to make certain they got **jpei** , but instead because they wanted to make certain they got _ **texcat** _. It would have been an _unbelievably_ anti-Town move of **peeker** to protect **texcat** last Night, so I sincerely doubt that Scum would have been worried about it enough to block **peeker** for that reason, and I can’t see any reason right now why **peeker** is so insistent that this must be the case. Right. I just don’t think that his weird speculation is particularly relevant. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1327 "2009-10-13T01:27:33Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > I really hope **FS** comes back. i think she’s in atlanta with luke. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1328 "2009-10-13T01:31:04Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > Aaaaaaaaaand we have an OMGUS. **peeker** , the appropriate thing to do when I called you out on this **texcat** stuff would be to say “Hey, it’s just a suggestion, and probably not a very good one at that,” rather than to try to defend something that is essentially indefensible and then vote me for pressing you on it, while THEN saying “hey, it’s just a suggestion.” > > Do you really think that me calling you out on _this_ makes me Scum? yeh that makes sense. **unvote** you’re full of flopdoodle **vote drain bead** ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1329 "2009-10-13T01:38:10Z")
ok, in all seriousness. **unvote** i really assumed that you thought it was a suggestion. it make sense, to me, however. why would anyone else kill **texcat**? a town vig. now that makes no sense. an sk \*\*. that makes less sense. scum. well they’d be the last group around. and a mason recruiter/confirmer would be one of the most powerful roles that scum would have to face. so maybe just blind luck, then. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1330 "2009-10-13T01:48:05Z")
1 - compulsory vig decided to lynch the lurker 2 - maybe **texcat** tried to recruit the wrong person (Jimmy?) and got killeded that way. Anyway, not a lot productive going to happen from this speculation. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1331 "2009-10-13T01:53:09Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > 1 - compulsory vig decided to lynch the lurker > 2 - maybe **texcat** tried to recruit the wrong person (Jimmy?) and got killeded that way. > > Anyway, not a lot productive going to happen from this speculation. ok, i’ll let it lie. ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1332 "2009-10-13T02:42:33Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > oh jesu christo. an sk (i assume we have one because of three deaths) wants to eliminate any type of confirmation. sheeps, an sk has to get rid of them otherwise at end game they end up in a small pool of unconfimreds and have to die with the rest of the good townies and bad boys. sheesh, its pretty durn simple. so yep, **jpei** would be 3rd party toast. c’mon think about it - that’s the safest kill out there. > > peanut butter on a banana stick. On Night 1, a confirmed Town is one of the most likely targets for Doc protection. Or Scum kill. So if a 3rd party targets them, they are likely to be wasting a kill. If only I had said that earlier… > [@AllWalker](#): > > Someone who is more likely than the average player to be either protected by Doc or targeted by Scum - either way, throwing a kill away. … oh good, I did. Alternatively, the could wait and hope that the Scum does the killing for the SK, or that the Doc gets enough candidates for protection that they are more likely to leave the confirmed player alone. Pretty durn simple is right - the “safest kill” is the most obvious kill, and when is that a good idea? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1333 "2009-10-13T02:50:52Z")
Quoth **Drain Bead** : > [@](#): > > NETA: This is seriously not making sense to me. One would think that Day-strategizing Scum would not say something as insane as… Eh, **peeker** says insane and seemingly-insane things no matter what side he’s on, and I don’t think that Scum teammates would be able to stop him from doing so. In fact, they might not even try: A sane-sounding **peeker** might attract suspicion. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1334 "2009-10-13T03:14:23Z")
> [@CatInASuit](#): > > And possibly the following as well. > > **Hey Mods, was any berynium found on Jimmy Chitwood’s or TexCat’s body?** > > Just curious 🙂 No. > [@CatInASuit](#): > > **Not forgetting is there berynium on BillMC’s body as well?** No. > [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > **Mods, has Freudian Slit been inactive since early night 0 due game dynamics or simply hasn’t posted by choice?** If she had been unable to post, it would have been in the Official Dawn/Dusk. > [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > **Mods, can you send a PM to ping Freudian Slit to get her back in the thread?** Done. > [@peekercpa](#): > > well at least you got the part about me not being part of any daytime scum strategizing correct 'cause that would put me in the schizophrenic camp. > > gotta admit this game is driving us all a little bit nuts. > > **pede/mahaloth is this even close?** …huh? If I interpreted that correctly, then: no comment. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1335 "2009-10-13T03:24:13Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > You smoked a squag and began to leave your place of residence to ++++++ over ???, but your door was blocked somehow. > > paraphrased liberally and from **pede**. One other thing occurred to me (always assuming this is a genuine paraphrase). I don’t want to read too much into color, but if the way the scum roleblocker works is by blocking the blocked player’s door, then maybe they can only block players from using powers to target other players. In other words, maybe they didn’t kill **peeker** because he couldn’t self-protect. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1336 "2009-10-13T03:25:57Z")
NETA: of course if **peeker** is lying then that’s an awfully convenient kind of roleblocker for the scum to have, since it explains why his doc heals aren’t healing for squat, but why the scum haven’t killed him yet. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1337 "2009-10-13T03:26:58Z")
NETA: and in my original post, of course I meant “they didn’t kill **peeker** cause they couldn’t STOP him from self-protecting.” ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1338 "2009-10-13T05:13:16Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > and **vote Boozahol**. Given that we seem to have a lot of weird power roles in this game, the fact that he is softclaiming isn’t actually as suspicious to me as it might otherwise be…but based on Yesterday’s events, I still think he is suspicious, and I’m not going to let him off the hook with a softclaim. Power roles shouldn’t hard claim unless forced to by being endangered of being lynched or having information that will help a lynch. (note: I’m catching up right now. If I post anything else in the next five minutes, it’s an automatic reaction tochanging events as I read them, not because I’m secret scum-plotting to ride some bandwagon) ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1339 "2009-10-13T05:32:18Z")
All right. I’m caught up. I still want a peeker lynch, but I’m more convincd by the **Daphne** case than the **Drain Bead** one. I’m waiting for tomorrow to vote, though. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1340 "2009-10-13T06:37:00Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > All right. I’m caught up. I still want a peeker lynch, but I’m more convincd by the **Daphne** case than the **Drain Bead** one. > > I’m waiting for tomorrow to vote, though. very Democratic of you sport! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938.md?page=66) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938.md?page=68)