# Screamers Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 21, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938 "2009-09-21T13:16:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 72
**Author:** ![Gryff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Gryff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gryff)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1421 "2009-10-14T06:45:18Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > I still want **peeker** to hang, but I understand I’m not getting any traction there. I still think Peeker is the scummiest I have seen, but I am assuming an investigator has or will investigate him. ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1422 "2009-10-14T09:33:20Z")
Interesting passage of play. I would lean heavily towards town for Boozy Squid, Gryff and probably Alka Seltzer as well. I guess it would have made for four confirmable townies which probably means we don’t have a masonry around. Freudian Slit: From the WoW I did, she looks scummy and has been lurking since. She hasn’t posted a response so it’s hard to tell either way what she is apart from anti-town. Given that she was consistently voting for anti-town behaviour and is doing doing her best at it now is not really acceptable. Thing Fish: Having read through the case against him, it definitely looks suspicious I will be honest and say that he had not pinged me that much but the case against him seems good. A defence has been promised for later on. If Thing Fish can provide a good account of actions my vote is likely to be on Freudian Slit, however, as I don’t like ties and the case appears sounder. **vote Thing Fish** ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1423 "2009-10-14T11:57:59Z")
Hello everyone. I have somewhat recovered from my day from hell yesterday. I have also caught up rapidly and see that there have been many developments, not all of which I have processed very well. Right now, I’m going to **unvote Normal Phase** The case against **Thing Fish** does look suspicious but I’m going to wait a bit and see what he has to say. I’d like to guard against my OMGUS tendencies and think about it a bit more. To those who continue to press for more info from me: I am not going to tell you anything more about the ‘mechanics of my role’ or any info I may have. It _would not be pro-town_ no matter what you seem to think. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1424 "2009-10-14T12:10:39Z")
> [@DaphneBlack](#): > > It _would not be pro-town_ no matter what you seem to think. /snipped @ **Daphne** does that include telling us only **Freudian Slit** ’s alignment? If she’s town, we will not vote for her to be lynched and so that’s a pro-town motive. If she’s scum or third party, we’ll lynch her toDay and that’s a pro-town motive. What could be anti-town about revealing ONLY her alignment? ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1425 "2009-10-14T12:30:11Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > /snipped > > @ **Daphne** does that include telling us only **Freudian Slit** ’s alignment? If she’s town, we will not vote for her to be lynched and so that’s a pro-town motive. If she’s scum or third party, we’ll lynch her toDay and that’s a pro-town motive. What could be anti-town about revealing ONLY her alignment? Especially since FS has several votes on her now. If she’s Town and you can save her, that would be swell. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1426 "2009-10-14T12:50:25Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > [ (not that there are any other ways, as you’ve pretty much been preoccupied with going after me so far in this game). I know. I think I’ve said my piece. I believe you’re Scum, but I’ve said as much as I can on that topic. There are other Scum in the game. I have my usual Wednesday plans this afternoon/evening and appointments this morning, so I won’t be around much the rest of the Day. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1427 "2009-10-14T12:58:45Z")
I’d like to see your opinion on who you think the other Scum are, **Normal**. Hopefully you’re not basing your other decisions based on the assumption that I’m Scum, because I’d like to someDay see you barking up the right tree for once. I actually kinda wish I could die just so I could stop being such a huge distraction for people. I think the **Thing Fish** case has merit, but right now I want **Daphne** to inform us of **Freudian Slit** ’s alignment, hopefully before she returns to the thread (I still hold out hope there). Or “Dunno,” I guess, which will let us know just how limited the limited Investigator portion of the role is. Also, **Daphne** …do you believe that I would be able to confirm that you blocked me tonight, if you choose to do so? Until I get an answer to both of these questions, my vote remains where it was before the whole **Boozy** episode. **[color=blue]Vote Daphne**[/color ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1428 "2009-10-14T13:01:15Z")
Shit, blew the coding. **Vote Daphne** ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1429 "2009-10-14T13:20:24Z")
OK, look people. I had hoped it would be obvious from what I have been saying. I do not _know_ Freudian Slit’s alignment. If I did, you are absolutely right that it would be pro-town to reveal it. ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1430 "2009-10-14T13:22:25Z")
I also have no knowledge whether or not my blockee will know about it. I’d still love to hear from **Freudian Slit** on that one! I’m happy to block **Drain Bead** tonight, in either case, though, if that’s what the town as a whole wants. ---
**Author:** ![tiltawhirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@tiltawhirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiltawhirl)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1431 "2009-10-14T13:43:10Z")
> [@DaphneBlack](#): > > To those who continue to press for more info from me: I am not going to tell you anything more about the ‘mechanics of my role’ or any info I may have. It _would not be pro-town_ no matter what you seem to think. How does it help town if you’re mislynched without at least giving up all of your exclusive information ? **Vote DaphneBlack** by way of encouragement to come clean. ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1432 "2009-10-14T14:57:52Z")
I don’t think everybody’s thinking clearly here. There are certain things that would help scum to know, but not particularly town. In my opinion, exactly how my role works is something that would be much more helpful for scum to know than town. Why does town need to know how my role works? Voting me as ‘encouragement to come clean’ when that actually just makes it easier for me to be mislyncedh is really not pro-town. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1433 "2009-10-14T15:04:28Z")
The only info i would have wanted from Daphne is any role info on FS. Since Daphne has none, I see no point in pursuing this. All I am waiting for before deciding on an unvote is for FS to pop in and comment on whether they knew they were blocked. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1434 "2009-10-14T15:06:22Z")
Vote Count: Gryff(1): Boozoahol(1): Peeker Daphne(5): Gryff, Oneandonly, Chronos, Drain Bead, Tiltawhirl Freudian Slit(3): ScubaBen, AllWalker, Thing Fish Thing Fish(5): amrussell, TomScud, Boozy Squid, Guiri, CiaS DrainBead(1): Normalphase ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1435 "2009-10-14T15:52:01Z")
**FS** not returning, but posting elsewhere, is one of the most frustrating things about toDay in this game. At this point, I have to speculate about what **Daphne** can and cannot do. My speculation is that at this point in the game, Vanilla Town is the most likely to drop off the map. Our role is…well, generally boring. People with power roles and Scum tend be less likely to completely drop the game, as it really screws over their team in a way that an absent Vanilla generally will not. Now, if **Daphne** is telling the truth, I can imagine that she will only gain info on a role if it’s someone who can actually do something worth blocking. That seems to go with the color of the Bartender role–a Vanilla would have nothing worth disclosing, but get a power role or Scum drunk (can you get a robot drunk?) and they might spill what they’ve been up to. So as such, I would make two assumptions if **Daphne** is telling the truth–that **FS** is Vanilla Town, and if **Daphne** blocks me, she will receive no additional information about my alignment. At this point, I am losing hope that **Freudian Slit** will return and let us know if she knows she was blocked. I’d like to see **Daphne** answer the question of whether or not she thinks I would know I was blocked if someone blocked me. Once again, like when I asked that question of the mods and they didn’t respond, I doubt I’ll get a satisfactory answer. Really, **Freudian** ’s non-appearance is the only thing that’s keeping me from unvoting **Daphne** and and going on with the plan to have her block me toNight. But if there’s absolutely no way for me to confirm that it was done, and **Daphne** is still not going to be able to confirm me one way or the other, then I’m not sure what the plus is, other than maybe a “dunno” answer from **Daphne** in the AM might clear up some lingering suspicion of me. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1436 "2009-10-14T15:56:01Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > I’d like to see **Daphne** answer the question of whether or not she thinks I would know I was blocked if someone blocked me. She already did, though it’s not a great deal of help: > [@DaphneBlack](#): > > I also have no knowledge whether or not my blockee will know about it. I’d still love to hear from **Freudian Slit** on that one! ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1437 "2009-10-14T17:11:02Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Argh! Caught up (more or less) but no time to post in detail! > > **Unvote Boozy** > > **vote Freudian Slit** > > Detailed defense of charges against me to follow tomorrow morning. NETA: Early afternoon, and probably not as detailed as I would like. Sorry, meatspace responsibilites are overwhelming today. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1438 "2009-10-14T17:12:18Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > Vote Count: > > Gryff(1): > > Boozoahol(2): AlkaSelzter, Peeker > > Daphne(3): Gryff, Oneandonly, Chronos > > Freudian Slit(4): ScubaBen, Guiri, AllWalker, Thing Fish > > Normalphase(1): Daphne > > Thing Fish(3): amrussell, TomScud, Boozy Squid > > DrainBead(1): Normalphase > > I’ve been skimming, so hopefully I didn’t miss anything, but assuming I didn’t, the day ends Wedensday, October 14, 11:35 AM. **You mean 11:35 PM, right???** ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1439 "2009-10-14T17:17:03Z")
I read this page and was ready to unvote FS, then I double checked this: > [@pedescribe](#): > > I’ve been skimming, so hopefully I didn’t miss anything, but assuming I didn’t, the day ends Wedensday, October 14, 11:35 AM. And I remembered that that’s today. So what’s the outcome? (Assuming either EDT or CDT.) Anyway. **Drain Bead** ’s 11:52 EDT is what got me thinking – a plain role has no role-based element to pay attention to. I am very unlikely to vote for FS Tomorrow. I’ll have to double check the cases on **Thing Fish** and **DaphneBlack** , assuming they both survive to Tomorrow. _Aside to **GuiriEnEspaña** _: I do NOT have a weird fetish for doilies, and I resent the insinuation! I have a weird fetish for neoprene rubber body suits. Please get it right. AOP after Thing Fish: **Unvote Freudian Slit** I’m up in the air between Daphne and Thing Fish. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1440 "2009-10-14T17:24:41Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > **You mean 11:35 PM, right???** Yes, sorry. Misread the time. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938.md?page=71) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938.md?page=73)