# Screamers Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 21, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938 "2009-09-21T13:16:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 77
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1521 "2009-10-15T07:55:48Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > 5 players didn’t even vote on Day 2 (Daphne. Freudian. OaOW, OreDigger, USC Diver), is that more or less pro-town than voting for the mislynch? Change this to didn’t have a vote placed at nightfall. Not the same as not voting at all the entire day. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1522 "2009-10-15T08:04:38Z")
> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > Change this to didn’t have a vote placed at nightfall. Not the same as not voting at all the entire day. I stand corrected, I meant to refer to Day End votes. The same applies to \*\*Daphne \*\* who unvoted earlier. Day End at midnight made it more difficult for a number of us. The other three non voters have been absent from here for over a week, **Oredigger** & **USC** don’t seem to have posted anywhere on SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1523 "2009-10-15T08:14:07Z")
NETA @ **OaOW** I see you’re in the UK so same problem as Daphne and I. What’s your take on the Politician role? Does it seem town or scum to you? ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1524 "2009-10-15T08:23:19Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > NETA @ **OaOW** I see you’re in the UK so same problem as Daphne and I. > > What’s your take on the Politician role? Does it seem town or scum to you? In previous games I have played it has been a town role, but that doesn’t mean it always has to be. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1525 "2009-10-15T08:25:58Z")
I need to make an apology to Thing Fish. In a game sense, I’m sorry for being wrong. More importantly, in an out of game sense, I’m sorry for offending you. I never meant to imply that you were making up real life incidents, or that you were cheating. And I’m very sorry you read it that way. For what it’s worth, what I was getting at was that you did post two hours before your claim to confirm the time-frame - I thought that you should have typed the words, “I’m a doctor, kthxbye” right then, because time was already tight. But that’s by the by. We play Mafia for entertainment, and the point is for us all to have fun. I’ve ruined that for you, and instead caused you aggravation and insult. I’m truly sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1526 "2009-10-15T09:02:17Z")
**@Thing Fish** - Sorry to hear about your awful day, and sorry to lose you from the game. I think it’s just unfortunate the way things worked out. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1527 "2009-10-15T09:26:33Z")
**Boozy** Can you tell us why you decided for **Thing Fish**? Would really like to hear your reasoning. ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1528 "2009-10-15T09:43:19Z")
Oh Crap. That was not a good end to the Day. Sorry **Thing Fish**. I hope things improve IRL for you as well. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1529 "2009-10-15T09:52:54Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > I believe (from memory) there were no posts from the other 4 voters since the initial claim and certainly not after the subsequent claim (amrussell, CIaS, Normal Phase, Scuba Ben). London based here, so I was asleep. Please can we pick a better time for the Leader to vote so more of us are online when the deadline comes? Actually, can we get a list of where everyone is based, because there are at least 4 europeans in the mix. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1530 "2009-10-15T10:13:26Z")
Bah. Sorry, **ThingFish**. I’d say I wish I’d been around for your claim, but I can’t honestly say I’d have gotten it right if I had been. Maybe after I catch up, things will be more clear. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1531 "2009-10-15T10:23:11Z")
**CIAS** , I’m in New York, but have had Wednesday afternoon/evening business for the last several weeks. The other big game I’m in (on the Giraffe boards) has been ending Days Wednesday evenings consistently and I haven’t been around for one yet. Evenings/nights are almost always rough for me in terms of keeping up, but not to be around at all has been frustrating, especially with both games ending on Wednesday evening this week. My control freak nature is not taking it well. I doubt many people have my general issues with evenings, but for the sake of the Europeans (and for the sake of anyone who has attracted their votes), future Day ends might want to avoid that time period. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1532 "2009-10-15T10:41:57Z")
Having caught up, I’m no clearer on whether I would have changed my vote. I’ve never heard of a self-protecting Bodyguard before; that would have been a stumbling block for me. **ThingFish** , I also read about your RL issues, and I hope things turned out well. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1533 "2009-10-15T11:03:44Z")
ok, this sucks bad but chin up and all that. yasee i have been dropping it all game and i sure hope (i know some of you - at least one) have caught it. the insane survivalist was my doppleganger. shit i don’t know how much more obvious i can have been. regardless, i believe that while it sucks to lose **fishy** from a game standpoint the overall impact and data elements may actually be a net town gain. and **fishy** i will express apologies to you. i caught your message on Day one and didn’t follow through. i went a different direction on Night one and because of that may have changed some of the dynamics. stupid second guessing and all that. oh well, well played - don’t kick yourself because i fucked up. i’ll be back to explain more fully in a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1534 "2009-10-15T11:46:39Z")
I’ll embolden what ped said. **PM both Mahaloth and Pedescribe with any Night Action. Seriously.** ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1535 "2009-10-15T11:55:04Z")
Damn it! What a total clusterfuck this game has been so far. My non-vote was unfortunate, but the time issues that got others also got me, I’m afraid. Looks like I’ll be having a little drunken chat with Drain Bead tonight. Anyone else want a drink? ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1536 "2009-10-15T12:53:07Z")
and my comment to **fishy** is because i wonder if being blocked was a function of someone performing an action or whether it could have been a function of who i was attempting to visit. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1537 "2009-10-15T13:10:51Z")
> [@amrussell](#): > > I need to make an apology to Thing Fish. > > In a game sense, I’m sorry for being wrong. More importantly, in an out of game sense, I’m sorry for offending you. I never meant to imply that you were making up real life incidents, or that you were cheating. And I’m very sorry you read it that way. For what it’s worth, what I was getting at was that you did post two hours before your claim to confirm the time-frame - I thought that you should have typed the words, “I’m a doctor, kthxbye” right then, because time was already tight. > > But that’s by the by. We play Mafia for entertainment, and the point is for us all to have fun. I’ve ruined that for you, and instead caused you aggravation and insult. I’m truly sorry. Well, that makes sense. Sorry I lost my cool. Thanks to all who have expressed sympathy for my truly epically sucky day yesterday. Hugs all round. ---
**Author:** ![tiltawhirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@tiltawhirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiltawhirl)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1538 "2009-10-15T13:35:13Z")
To echo the others, **Thing Fish** –this game is supposed to be fun and I’m sorry it became an aggravation to you. When electing Leader next Day, can we please please please get a firm commitment on time of Leaders’ vote, if not day of week? The **Thing Fish** roleclaim might have been averted his mislynch if we could have had a quorum of players active at end of Day. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1539 "2009-10-15T16:02:53Z")
That sucked. Once he came out with the Bodyguard title and mechanics, I found his claim completely believable, but with at least three unchangeable votes (Boozy, the sleeping Guiri, and his own) there really wasn’t any way to save him at that point. I think the Politician is probably anti-Town. Ridiculous to make a guy vote for himself before he got a chance to claim. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1540 "2009-10-15T16:21:15Z")
Aw bloody heck. I fell asleep right after dinner and was away from LOTS of things last night, including this. I’m terribly sorry, Thing Fish. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938.md?page=76) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938.md?page=78)