# Screamers Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 21, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938 "2009-09-21T13:16:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 83
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1641 "2009-10-17T20:17:46Z")
Question for those who still doubt my claim: do you really think colour is that important? I admit to total ignorance of the source material for this game. Is it that weird to imagine (in this world) that it’s possible for robots to get drunk? I would like to point out briefly that a lot of folks were suspicious of me for ‘trying to save’ peeker. Does his flipping town make you rethink some of this, perhaps? I’d like to not be the distraction that I was yesterday. I’m going to do a full re-read (I know I promised this before, but I’ve not been able to do it yet) and see if I can find anything that’s been overlooked in the messiness. I get the feeling that a lot of the mess yesterday was town-on-town. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1642 "2009-10-17T20:30:31Z")
> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#): > > Only 2 kills last night, so it does look likely that TexCat was killed recruiting. Or Jimmy investigated a paranoid gun owner > [@](#): > > Objectively, I agree that Boozy and Gryff are closer to confirmed than I am. I think Tom’s theory that Boozahol might be the head screamer is very unlikey, although I can’t quite rule it out. If he is it would mean there is no Megacorp Regional Manager and he was given the role name in order to fake claim. That would make my role pretty gastardly. Yeah, I hadn’t considered a counterclaim. (Unless Freudian or Oredigger is the real Megacorp Regional Manual… grrr…) > [@](#): > > If I was 3rd party I wouldn’t have claimed day 2, running the risk of being blocked or killed. I’m expecting the scum will confirm us by slicing us into tiny pieces. Indeed. I don’t think my alternate theory is worth acting on at the moment; I fully expect you to be confirmed-by-night-kill over the next couple nights. I was mainly bringing the theory up for Town players to consider if they end up in a four or five-person endgame situation with you still alive. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1643 "2009-10-17T20:31:35Z")
NETA: Regional Manager of course. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1644 "2009-10-17T20:32:19Z")
> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#): > > That sounds a bit like a **Hacker** role, over-riding door controls. Alternatively, if the doors in the mining complex are a bit lower-tech, it could be a **Chair-Positioner**. I am totally stealing the Chair Positioner. lol Day 3 Leader votes: AlkaSeltzer(5): Tom Scud, USCDiver, AllWalker, CatinASuit, Daphne TomScud(3): Guiri, Gryff, OneandOnly Daphne(2): Drainbead, Normal Phase Boozy (2): Alka Seltzer, Chronos ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1645 "2009-10-17T20:32:37Z")
Oh, Daphne; considering that she’s now basically gone, could you let us know what you found out about Freudian? ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1646 "2009-10-17T20:47:07Z")
I thought **Daphne** already said she found out nothing. Which is sort of in line with my theory that VTs are the most likely to go AWOL early on in a thread. She found out nothing with me too–no doubt she only learns something if the person blocked had an ability TO block. ---
**Author:** ![tiltawhirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@tiltawhirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiltawhirl)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1647 "2009-10-17T20:55:25Z")
**Elect Tom Scud** because he has been mindful of players’ preferences as to time and day of week of Day end. No offense, Boozy, but I don’t want to have to stay up until 11:30 to find out what happens again. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1648 "2009-10-17T21:05:52Z")
Got my PM, looks like the first one was eaten. My collection on Gryff was successful, I can confirm he is town. > [@USCDiver](#): > > Thanks. **peeker** mentioned during the Night that he had only acquired the full Doctor functioning on **Thing Fish** ’s death… > > So he was able to self protect during the Night which means he was most likely blocked and killed by Screamers. Peeker claimed both that he could and couldn’t self protect, probably trying to WIFOM the scum. > [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > This is a joke about the mods getting you and AllWalker mixed up on day 1, right? Yes, I was joking. My Chair-Positioner comment may not have been entirely serious either. > [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > The existence of a Town Roleblocker makes me lean toward SK rather than Vig, too. It seems a little pointless to have a Town Roleblocker when there’s only one anti-Town killer out there. But it’s probably a little premature to be worrying about who the other kills are coming from. Possibly, but there was also a town role-blocker in the Weird Wild West game (and no SK). > [@DaphneBlack](#): > > Question for those who still doubt my claim: do you really think colour is that important? Up to a point, the colour should make some kind of sense. My thought was that alcohol might make a robot malfunction. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1649 "2009-10-17T21:34:56Z")
Quoth **Normal Phase** : > [@](#): > > It is a very bizarre choice of color, I agree with you there. I was starting to get nervous about it after you pointed it out again last Night. But given this morning’s revelations: > – maybe the Screamers are susceptible for some reason that makes sense to pedescribe and Mahaloth Does anyone who saw the movie know the answer to this? Of course, this game might not completely follow the flavor of the movie, but it’s at least a start. > [@](#): > > – maybe they are not, and that fact is intended to be conveyed in whatever information she gets back regarding the outcome I suppose that could be… “You gave \ drink after drink, but no matter how much he drank, he never seemed to get drunk”. > [@](#): > > What could conceivably be the win condition for such a role? Possibility 2 (roleblocking as a balancing factor to investigation) is a scenario where she’s Town, so she has the Town win condition. Possibility 3 pretty much depends on there being a whole team of 3rd parties, and I don’t know what their win condition would be… Maybe something to do with berynium? > [@](#): > > Inconsistent with peeker’s story of having been role-blocked the previous night, by a different method than Daphne and Drain Bead describe. Unless, That does make this less plausible, but remember, **peeker** also speculated that maybe his being stuck in his room was a result of whom he was trying to visit. As for the possibility that they’re both Scum, I can’t rule it out, but I think I want to go back and look over how those bandwagons rolled along. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1650 "2009-10-17T21:40:38Z")
Quoth **Drain Bead** : > [@](#): > > I thought Daphne already said she found out nothing. No, she just said she doesn’t [know her alignment](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11661870#post11661870). She might still know something about her role. ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1651 "2009-10-17T21:50:24Z")
OK, fine, since Freudian is MIA and basically out of the game I will spill. I received no alignment information. But I did discover she has a power of some kind. The nature of this power was not disclosed. I can’t figure out why she’s abandoned the game, but I didn’t want to disclose this yesterday because if she was scum and got some votes I would have expected some argument against lynching her. I don’t recall that really happening though. If it looked like she was in real danger to be lynched I would have spilled. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1652 "2009-10-17T22:46:01Z")
Leader vote count. AlkaSeltzer(6): Tom Scud, USCDiver, AllWalker, CatinASuit, Daphne, Tiltawhirl TomScud(3): Guiri, Gryff, OneandOnly Daphne(2): Drainbead, Normal Phase Boozy (2): Alka Seltzer, Chronos ---
**Author:** ![tiltawhirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@tiltawhirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiltawhirl)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1653 "2009-10-17T23:33:39Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Leader vote count. > > AlkaSeltzer(6): Tom Scud, USCDiver, AllWalker, CatinASuit, Daphne, Tiltawhirl > TomScud(3): Guiri, Gryff, OneandOnly > Daphne(2): Drainbead, Normal Phase > Boozy (2): Alka Seltzer, Chronos I voted for Tom Scud, not Alka Seltzer. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2009, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1654 "2009-10-18T00:14:20Z")
> [@tiltawhirl](#): > > I voted for Tom Scud, not Alka Seltzer. Fixed. AlkaSeltzer(5): Tom Scud, USCDiver, AllWalker, CatinASuit, Daphne, TomScud(4): Guiri, Gryff, OneandOnly, Tiltawhirl Daphne(2): Drainbead, Normal Phase Boozy (2): Alka Seltzer, Chronos ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2009, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1655 "2009-10-18T00:22:22Z")
I trust **Alka** more than **Tom** …remember, **Jimmy** seemed very helpful too. Note my mention that **Daphne** is the most confirmed Town I know, but I’m changing to the closest thing to confirmed Town who actually has a chance to be leader. It’s a strategic choice for 2nd best. 😉 **un-elect Daphne** **elect AlkaSeltzer** ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2009, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1656 "2009-10-18T00:47:53Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > I trust **Alka** more than **Tom** …remember, **Jimmy** seemed very helpful too. > > Note my mention that **Daphne** is the most confirmed Town I know, but I’m changing to the closest thing to confirmed Town who actually has a chance to be leader. It’s a strategic choice for 2nd best. 😉 > > **un-elect Daphne** > **elect AlkaSeltzer** I heartily endorse this line of reasoning. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2009, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1657 "2009-10-18T01:15:59Z")
I’m going to support Drain Bead and Tom Scud in the leader voting. I’m still hopelessly behind, though. **Elect AlkaSeltzer** And it’s sad to see two Town go. But perhaps we had a one-shot Vig? ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2009, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1658 "2009-10-18T04:00:37Z")
Right. Alky is the Leader. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2009, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1659 "2009-10-18T04:00:54Z")
Oh, hey, **Scuba** , do you have anything interesting to report concerning the doily? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2009, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/1660 "2009-10-18T04:06:59Z")
Might as well get this one down: **vote Chronos** For his refusal to vote strategically at the end of Day 2. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938.md?page=82) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938.md?page=84)