# Screaming and heckling are not problems on college campuses

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screaming-and-heckling-are-not-problems-on-college-campuses/786175>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 9, 2017, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screaming-and-heckling-are-not-problems-on-college-campuses/786175 "2017-05-09T02:17:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![BwanaBob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bwanabob/32/2985_2.png) [@BwanaBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BwanaBob)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screaming-and-heckling-are-not-problems-on-college-campuses/786175/201 "2017-05-17T16:28:10Z")

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> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#):
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> This is not what it means. You don’t grant freedom of speech. The constitution protects your speech from “ **governmental** ” regulation.  
> Totally agree.

Fixed that for you. It’s significant. My boss can tell me that anyone who openly cheers for the Yankees while at work will be fired, but Orioles fans get a pass. My There’s no freedom from repercussions of speech.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screaming-and-heckling-are-not-problems-on-college-campuses/786175/202 "2017-05-18T01:37:40Z")

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Doesn’t matter. All the Antifa thugs are doing is uniting people of all persuasions against them.

A side effect is also making feminists and SJWs look as bad as possible too.

In fact, they’ve done themselves SUCH a disservice that using the term ‘sjw’ has changed or is starting to change from “Did you just say SJW? Ugh…you’ve said all you need to. There’s no talking to someone who uses that term.”

to…“I know exactly the kind of shrill, close-minded person you’re talking about.”

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screaming-and-heckling-are-not-problems-on-college-campuses/786175/203 "2017-05-18T01:56:24Z")

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> [@BwanaBob](#):
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> Fixed that for you.

No. You violated SDMB board rules by changing another poster’s words:  
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You have been around long enough to be aware of this rule.  
Do not do this again.

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**Author:** ![Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/aca169/32.png) [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inbred_Mm_domesticus)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screaming-and-heckling-are-not-problems-on-college-campuses/786175/204 "2017-05-18T11:53:28Z")

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I read an article today that covers most of the points about nonviolent heckling, which is what this thread is about. It’s a good summary of the legitimate posts in this thread: [https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2010/02/17/heckle](https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2010/02/17/heckle).

It adds an additional point concerning limited heckling and other types of demonstrations one can do at an event without interrupting the speaker excessively. It presents the University of Michigan policy as an attempt to balance the rights of protesters and speakers:

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> “Within the confines of a hall or physical facility, or in the vicinity of the place in which a member of the university community, invited speaker, or invited artist is addressing an assembled audience, protesters must not interfere unduly with communication between a speaker or artist and members of the audience. This prohibition against undue interference does not include suppression of the usual range of human reactions commonly displayed by an audience during heated discussions of controversial topics. Nor does this prohibition include various expressions of protest, including heckling and the display of signs (without sticks or poles), so long as such activities are consistent with the continuation of a speech or performance and the communication of its content to the audience.”

I believe it is a policy most, no matter what their opinion of the topic, could support. Despite my approval of this policy, and even if it were adopted on every campus, I would still prefer that students push the boundaries.

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**Author:** ![BwanaBob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bwanabob/32/2985_2.png) [@BwanaBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BwanaBob)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screaming-and-heckling-are-not-problems-on-college-campuses/786175/205 "2017-05-22T18:27:51Z")

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My mistake. I got lazy and didn’t do the correct thing. Suitably ashamed.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screaming-and-heckling-are-not-problems-on-college-campuses/786175/206 "2017-05-22T20:19:11Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> In fact, they’ve done themselves SUCH a disservice that using the term ‘sjw’ has changed or is starting to change from “Did you just say SJW? Ugh…you’ve said all you need to. There’s no talking to someone who uses that term.”
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> to…“I know exactly the kind of shrill, close-minded person you’re talking about.”

Lemme check…nope. No change, still the first thing.

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