# Screw Caroline Kennedy

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-caroline-kennedy/479127>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 29, 2008, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-caroline-kennedy/479127 "2008-12-29T23:00:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-caroline-kennedy/479127/101 "2009-01-22T20:51:50Z")

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[Paterson’s people are now saying Kennedy didn’t withdraw because of a personal issue, but because of issues related to taxes and a household employee.](http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/23/nyregion/23caroline.html?hp) (Another illegal immigrant employee deal? They’re all the rage.)

Conflicting accounts are coming out about whether Paterson was ever going to pick her or not - I think people close to her are saying she was the choice until something cropped up at the last minute; which you could call the ‘moral victory’ storyline; while other people, maybe Paterson’s, are saying he was never going to pick her, period. Separately, [Ted’s people are said to be pissed off that she implied she quit because of his health because it makes it sound like he’s going to drop dead any minute.](http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1873328,00.html)

The Times article also says it looks like Paterson will pick Rep. Kirsten Gillibrand to replace Clinton. She’s from the 20th District, which includes Saratoga Springs.

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**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-caroline-kennedy/479127/102 "2009-01-22T23:01:10Z")

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I am hoping that he’ll choose Gillibrand, if only to spread out some of the state’s power back to upstate. Having said that, I still stand by what I’ve been saying all along - as long as he chooses no one with NYS Legislature experience, I’ll be satisfied.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-caroline-kennedy/479127/103 "2009-01-23T17:27:36Z")

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Meh. Turns out she doesn’t have the hide for the job after all. She’s too much Jackie and not enough Jack.

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**Author:** ![sugar\_and\_spice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@sugar\_and\_spice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugar_and_spice)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-caroline-kennedy/479127/104 "2009-01-23T17:43:47Z")

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> [@OtakuLoki](#):
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> I am hoping that he’ll choose Gillibrand, if only to spread out some of the state’s power back to upstate. Having said that, I still stand by what I’ve been saying all along - as long as he chooses no one with NYS Legislature experience, I’ll be satisfied.

wish granted:

[http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/24/nyregion/24choice.html?hp](http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/24/nyregion/24choice.html?hp)

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-caroline-kennedy/479127/105 "2009-01-23T18:56:31Z")

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Today is a great day to be a New Yorker. Joe Bruno looks like he might just be getting what he [deserves](http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2009/01/23/america/Bruno-Charges.php).

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-caroline-kennedy/479127/106 "2009-01-23T22:02:02Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Meh. Turns out she doesn’t have the hide for the job after all. She’s too much Jackie and not enough Jack.

I disagree. Jackie was pleasant, stylish, highly educated in the arts, charming and gracious. She was also savvy and not only knew and understood her role as First Lady, but delivered on it in such a way as to exceed anyone’s expectations. She was also, as her comportment following JFK’s assassination showed, a very, very tough woman.

Caroline on the other hand, is a petulant, arrogant, entitled and somewhat beligerent little brat who wants everything done on her own terms and clearly can’t be arsed to construct an intelligent rationale for her candidacy nor to moderate her behavior enough to win the support of New Yorkers and NY power brokers who otherwise _wanted_ to support her.

It is amazing in some photos though how much [both of her parents can be seen in her face](http://teacher.scholastic.com/scholasticnews/indepth/constitution_day/background/images/kennedy.jpg).

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-caroline-kennedy/479127/107 "2009-01-24T01:56:01Z")

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Joe is _so_ effing mobbed up.

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**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2009, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-caroline-kennedy/479127/108 "2009-01-27T03:17:19Z")

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Argh! The attacks over the Senate choice are starting. With this lovely [piece of idiocy](http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/25/opinion/25dowd.html?_r=1) from someone who is normally a voice of reason in the press: Maureen Dowd.

A couple of highlights:

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> Paterson could have acted a month ago, or even a week ago. There was no reason not to, certainly not his claim that he had to wait for Hillary, ad nauseam, to exit to State. Colorado’s governor named Michael Bennet senator two and a half weeks before Ken Salazar resigned his seat for the Interior Department.
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> Then the Democrats would have had another Kennedy in the Senate representing New York — Bobby’s niece and a smart, policy-oriented, civic-minded woman to whom the president feels deeply indebted in an era when every state has its hand out.

And we need an inarticulate woman who caves at any hint of a hard question in the Senate, why?

Then there’s this accusation:

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> Kennedy friends said that, as Caroline was pulling out for family reasons, the governor made a crude attempt to control the spin — a childish “You can’t quit, I’m firing you” power play.

Was Ms. Dowd actually watching the same effing press conferences the rest of us were?

For that matter she goes into conspiracy theory territory, claiming that it’s part of a Clinton plot to get back at Ted. WTF?

(And let’s not forget that her idea of what’s good for the country seems to be what’s good for NYC.)

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2009, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-caroline-kennedy/479127/109 "2009-01-27T04:03:18Z")

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Republican attack machine, Loki.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2009, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-caroline-kennedy/479127/110 "2009-01-27T04:07:14Z")

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Bwahahaha!  
😉

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2009, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-caroline-kennedy/479127/111 "2009-01-27T05:13:34Z")

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Caroline Kennedy’s [resume](http://lancemannion.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/01/31/jfk_and_caroline.jpg)is now online.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2009, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-caroline-kennedy/479127/112 "2009-01-27T15:03:08Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Caroline Kennedy’s [resume](http://lancemannion.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/01/31/jfk_and_caroline.jpg)is now online.

Well played!

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