# Screw France **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 4, 2003, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792 "2003-02-04T21:28:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Clint\_in\_Wichita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Clint\_in\_Wichita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clint_in_Wichita)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/221 "2003-02-24T23:11:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Coldfire \* > \*\*There you go again, Clint. Read some more. Then form opinions. \*\* My opinions on the Iraq situation are based almost solely on reading various articles and, of course, watching news on TV. I don’t know how else I can gather facts on the matter, other than becoming a high-ranking politician. Allegedly, France, Russia, Germany, and China all do billions of dollars worth of business every year. Germany is suspected of selling banned equipment to Iraq. This stuff is all over the news…I’d have a hard time believing all of it is false. ---
**Author:** ![GoHeels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b3f665/32.png) [@GoHeels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GoHeels)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/222 "2003-02-25T00:06:18Z")
Has anyone considered the possibility that “Clint in Wichita” may just be someone who doesn’t like America and wants to reinforce the “dumb boorish ugly American” stereotype? ---
**Author:** ![Clint\_in\_Wichita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Clint\_in\_Wichita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clint_in_Wichita)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/223 "2003-02-25T00:25:31Z")
“Stereotype”…exactly. Kinda like the smelly Frenchman stereotype. ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/224 "2003-02-25T00:33:46Z")
clint, the “dumb boorish ugly american” stereotype dosent exist. why do you insist on using the “smelly Frenchman” one? ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/225 "2003-02-25T01:25:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by GoHeels \* > \*\*Has anyone considered the possibility that “Clint in Wichita” may just be someone who doesn’t like America and wants to reinforce the “dumb boorish ugly American” stereotype? \*\* Yeah, that thought did cross my mind too. I post on another board where that happens a _lot_. However, it’s been my experience that most trolls who do that sort of thing have trouble faking American English, and Clint sounds like a genuine American. Regardless, **Clint** , your posts reinforce pretty much every conceivable ugly stereotype about Americans, so if you geniunely don’t like to see your country criticized, you might stop giving people ammo. BTW, I’m off to Amsterdam for the first time on Saturday, so I’m glad to see it’s getting such brilliant reviews 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/226 "2003-02-25T01:29:04Z")
How long are you going to be in town? Need a tour guide for a night? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bizzwire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/958977/32.png) [@bizzwire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bizzwire)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/227 "2003-02-25T02:56:54Z")
Hey **Clint** , your stupid is showing… I’ve been to Kansas and I’ve been to France. France is better. ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/228 "2003-02-25T16:46:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Coldfire \* > \*\*How long are you going to be in town? Need a tour guide for a night? 🙂 \*\* I’m not sure because I’m still figuring out where else I want to go, but definitely the 2nd through 5th, and probably another day or two before I fly out on the 18th. Sure, I’d love a tour guide for a night if any of those dates work. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/229 "2003-02-25T16:56:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by bizzwire \* > I’ve been to Kansas and I’ve been to France. > \*\* You’ve been to Coldfire’s underpants? ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/230 "2003-02-25T18:04:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*Adn NObody is envious of anyone living in Kansas! :rolleyes: \*\* What the fuck is with this attitude? Isn’t it possible at all to give **Clint** the well-deserved smackdown he needs without bashing Kansas? Do you even really _know_ anything about actually living in my State? 😕 ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/231 "2003-02-25T18:24:15Z")
Why is anyone surprised at Clint being a zenophobic fuck? This is the same asshole who justified the killing of palestian children with the comment that “nits make lice”. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/232 "2003-02-25T18:26:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Gary Kumquat \* > \*\*Why is anyone surprised at Clint being a **x** enophobic fuck? This is the same asshole who justified the killing of palestian children with the comment that “nits make lice”. \*\* Where’s the jaw-drop smiley when you need it? I retract my conciliatory tone. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/233 "2003-02-25T18:42:37Z")
> [@](#): > > What the fuck is with this attitude? Isn’t it possible at all to give Clint the well-deserved smackdown he needs without bashing Kansas? Do you even really _know_ anything about actually living in my State? I had a very bad experience hitchhiking through Topeka in 1984, and I’ve detested the place ever since. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/234 "2003-02-25T18:54:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*I had a very bad experience hitchhiking through Topeka in 1984, and I’ve detested the place ever since. \*\* I can only imagine how bad an experience one can have whilst hitching. I have everything but sympathy for you, and anything you suffered. I am profoundly sorry for any hurt you have had here. But, with all due respect to you, is that the fault of Kansas? Or the people (in general usage of the term) who live here? Hasn’t much of this thread been fighting the very attitude that a country and a people are not defined by a few stereotypes and bad apples in the bunch? My point, dear **gobear** , is how can **Clint** be decried for bashing France, while Kansas, the State and the people who live there, is bashed as well? Am I misunderstanding things here? Is it really OK now that we’ve reached the latter pages of the thread to make fun of some cultures, peoples, and lands, so long as they are “funny” or “different”? And I’m the only one who cares about the inequity here? Didn’t the piece I wrote back on page 4 (or whatever) apply to more than one place? That’s why I’m posting. Like the Lorax who speaks up for the trees, I guess it’s my job to speak up for Kansas. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/235 "2003-02-25T19:34:40Z")
I do apologize for hurting your feelings, and I retract my comments about your home state. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/236 "2003-02-25T20:19:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fretful Porpentine \* > \*\*I’m not sure because I’m still figuring out where else I want to go, but definitely the 2nd through 5th, and probably another day or two before I fly out on the 18th. Sure, I’d love a tour guide for a night if any of those dates work. \*\* Alright, I’ll send you an e-mail and we’ll work things out. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Truth\_Seeker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@Truth\_Seeker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truth_Seeker)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/237 "2003-02-26T01:34:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\*I have everything but sympathy for you, and anything you suffered. \*\* Is this a colloquialism or a freudian slip? Pretty funny, either way. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/238 "2003-02-26T02:48:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Truth Seeker \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > I have everything but sympathy for you, and anything you suffered. > > Is this a colloquialism or a freudian slip? > > Pretty funny, either way. 🙂 \*\* Holy shit, that’s not what I meant! I meant that I have nothing but sympathy for **gobear**. Jesus Christ, I’m just glad he’s a person who doesn’t assume I mean ill of him. Sorry **gobear**! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/239 "2003-02-26T03:02:25Z")
No worries, **Anthracite**. I know you and I knew it was just a typo. Hugs. ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/240 "2003-02-26T16:10:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Clint in Wichita \* > \*\* > This stuff is all over the news…I’d have a hard time believing all of it is false. \*\* Most of it isn’t false, it’s just not complete, and ignores the role that US firms may or may not have had in selling to and buying from Iraq. But some of it is pure crap. Remember the babies being killed in Kuwait by Iraqi soldiers before the Gulf war? Made up _in toto_. Here’s the [cite](http://www.snopes.com/military/stamp.htm) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792.md?page=11)