# Screw France

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 4, 2003, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792 "2003-02-04T21:28:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/141 "2003-02-18T16:57:31Z")

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Yo, Doghouse? [The Germans certainly recall an incident.](http://www.rense.com/general34/germanyseethes.htm)

This potential war is bringing out the worst in people, everybody. It’s the real assholes that show their true colours first. Hence, Chirac’s pathetic attempt to threaten the Eastern European nations into submission. You’ll notice that he was alone in doing so.

Nothing against France, a lot against Chirac. Kind of similar to my position on the US at the moment, really.

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/142 "2003-02-18T17:03:39Z")

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> (However, I am very disappointed that the early snide rolleyes of cowgirl on the 1st page here towards Americans was uniformly ignored by everyone. I do not feel that was constructive or proper.)

Honestly, I didn’t even notice it, Una. At that stage I was a little involveed with other responses.

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/143 "2003-02-18T18:21:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TwistofFate \*  
> \*\*Honestly, I didn’t even notice it, Una. At that stage I was a little involveed with other responses. \*\*

I didn’t mean to pick on it, and I regret mentioning it, as the sentiment expressed wasn’t worth recognition. I just was feeling in a mood of “why can’t everyone get along” today.

But I think my other points are valid - France is not evil because they disagree with the US on a few issues; nor the US because they disagree with France on a few issues.

Perhaps it is a measure of how much the French are actually respected that so many are bothered by their not agreeing with the US? I mean to say - it would not nearly be in the news so much, even if they had the same veto power in the UN and NATO, if Curacao didn’t think the US should use force against Iraq.

I think France is very highly respected and regarded by many, and thus that is why there is _some_ of the consternation over their not agreeing with the US. It tells us that maybe the issue isn’t as clear, or black-and-white, as we like to think it is…? And maybe it makes people doubt if the path they have chosen is so clear-cut and right.

I don’t know. 😕

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/144 "2003-02-18T18:48:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Anthracite \*  
> **I mean to say - it would not nearly be in the news so much, even if they had the same veto power in the UN and NATO, if Curacao didn’t think the US should use force against Iraq.**

Useless nitpick of the day: Curacao is a dependency of the [Kingdom of the Netherlands](http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/nt.html#Govt), so it doesn’t have a UN seat at all. 🙂

Good points, though.

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**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/145 "2003-02-24T10:54:04Z")

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[CNN NEWS](http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/South/02/23/sunbathers.run.over.ap/index.html): A Florida cop is being hailed as a hero after he detects two French invaders who had landed on the beach and he singlehandedly and heroically fights wth them managing to kill one and severely injure the other thus prompting the rest of the French to have second thoughts about ever trying to come to America.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/146 "2003-02-24T11:26:29Z")

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Ooh dear, **sailor** , very poor taste.

You’re up early, aren’t you?

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/147 "2003-02-24T12:54:36Z")

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sailor, is it fun being a complete ass?

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**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/148 "2003-02-24T12:59:51Z")

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I guess some people don’t share my sense of humor.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/149 "2003-02-24T13:08:12Z")

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Hey, **Sailor** , the tragedy in Florida is not exactly a kneeslapper. What’s your next act, Holocaust jokes?

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/150 "2003-02-24T14:07:26Z")

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This one’s for **sailor** : :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/151 "2003-02-24T14:13:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by sailor \*  
> \*\*I guess some people don’t share my sense of humor. \*\*

You can’t share what you don’t have, **sailor**.  
So why don’t you call again when you _get_ a sense of humour.

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**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/152 "2003-02-24T15:19:57Z")

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My monitor is quite small and I only saw the “fighting ignorance” part. I did not see it was “fighting ignorance and bad taste”. Not to mention I was fooled by all the threads I have seen which did not seem to be in good taste at all. At any rate, even though I can hold my own quite well, I am not about to participate in a pissing match of personal insults which would result in another meltdown. We have enough of those already without my participation.

\>\> So why don’t you call again when you get a sense of humour.

Um, OK.

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**Author:** ![Clint\_in\_Wichita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Clint\_in\_Wichita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clint_in_Wichita)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/153 "2003-02-24T17:40:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by cowgirl \*  
> \*\*I love France. It’s not only the wine, the cheese, the pastries and the lifestyle that’s based around consuming them. It’s also the scenery, the hip-hop and dub music, but mostly for the fact that they will always be the butt of jokes for liking Jerry Lewis and David Hasselhoff, and they don’t seem to care. That’s classy.
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> I even like Quebec.
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> Now, Americans, on the other hand … :rolleyes: \*\*

Then move to fucking France, dummy.

Have fun giving about 60% of your paycheck to the French govt., for the privilege of living among filthy “men” and unshaven “women”. Iffy drinking water and obsolete indoor plumbing are 2 other things you can probably look forward to as you settle in with your panty-waisted countrymen.

Yeah, them thar Frenchies are so cultured, that we’re barbarians in comparison. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Clint\_in\_Wichita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Clint\_in\_Wichita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clint_in_Wichita)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/154 "2003-02-24T17:43:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gobear \*  
> \*\*Hey, **Sailor** , the tragedy in Florida is not exactly a kneeslapper. What’s your next act, Holocaust jokes? \*\*

I guess to some pussies, the next step up from a dead Frenchie would be the Holocaust.

Bleeding hearts make me sick.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/155 "2003-02-24T17:51:22Z")

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**Clint** , you are a cunt.

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/156 "2003-02-24T17:53:47Z")

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Clint, you are a moron. I hope you are involved in a freak yachting accident.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/157 "2003-02-24T18:09:15Z")

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Goodness, but that was hateful. If it had come from somewhere other than a hayseed in Kansas, I’d be insulted.

As it is, I’m just amused.

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**Author:** ![Clint\_in\_Wichita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Clint\_in\_Wichita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clint_in_Wichita)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/158 "2003-02-24T18:10:00Z")

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You couldn’t pay me enough to live Ireland, either.

That’s coming from someone who’s stranded in the middle of the Midwest.

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**Author:** ![Clint\_in\_Wichita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Clint\_in\_Wichita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clint_in_Wichita)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/159 "2003-02-24T18:12:09Z")

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Hateful?

I was responding to hatred. Hatred of Americans, which makes me sick.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-france/152792/160 "2003-02-24T18:15:27Z")

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I don’t care why you did it.

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