# Screw Greg Abbott {Texas Governor}

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 2, 2021, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141 "2021-03-02T21:00:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/662 "2023-06-26T01:57:21Z")

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Vehicle is separate from the liquid assets qualification.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/663 "2023-06-26T06:03:46Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> The entire point is to penalize poverty.

_If God didn’t want them sheared, he would not have made them sheep._  
– Calvera

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/664 "2023-06-26T06:12:17Z")

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I’m still trying to figure out how you see the vehicle as being subsidized by the taxpayer. Care to explain it, without the use of any emotional language, and support your points with creditable sources?

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/665 "2023-06-26T06:36:28Z")

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I don’t speak for @bump, but I think the idea is that by giving someone food (or something that they can exchange for food) it frees up money in that person’s budget to spend on things other than food.

Other government policies are sometimes referred to as indirect subsidies, like the mortgage interest deduction on federal income taxes, or building stadiums for sports teams.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/666 "2023-06-26T06:47:16Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> I don’t speak for @bump, but I think the idea is that by giving someone food (or something that they can exchange for food) it frees up money in that person’s budget to spend on things other than food.

But that argument doesn’t make a lot of sense, since they already look at how much money you take home. They know how much money you make. They don’t need to look into the car unless you own it.

And even if you do own it outright and can sell it, that’s a one time thing. Same with bank account money. That frustrated me: because I was trying to save back some money we had left over, we got less **per month**. They treat assets like they’re ongoing, rather than something you can use one time.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/667 "2023-06-26T07:05:21Z")

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I was recently laid off from my tech job, so my take home pay is 0. However, I have enough money saved and invested to survive on for several years. There are lots of people who need food stamps more than I do.

I don’t know exactly how I’d write the rules to qualify for food assistance, but I can see the case for evaluating assets as well as income.

Ironically, my car is an 8-year-old Honda, so it’s probably under the limit for Texas.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/668 "2023-06-26T10:06:28Z")

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Some people are so invested in being outraged if someone gets something don’t deserve, they are willing to take it away from thousands that do.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/669 "2023-06-26T11:05:49Z")

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and will spend millions to enforce it.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/670 "2023-06-26T11:10:26Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> but I can see the case for evaluating assets as well as income.

What makes you think they don’t already?

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/671 "2023-06-26T11:50:33Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> What makes you think they don’t already?

I don’t think that.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/672 "2023-06-26T12:08:57Z")

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> **[SNAP Food Benefits | Texas Health and Human Services](https://www.hhs.texas.gov/services/food/snap-food-benefits)**
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> SNAP food benefits are put on to the Lone Star Card and can be used just like a debit card at any store that accepts SNAP.

> ## What it Offers
> 
> …  
> SNAP can’t be used to:
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> - Buy tobacco.
> - Buy alcoholic drinks.
> - Buy things you can’t eat or drink.
> - Pay for food bills you owe.

> ## Who is it for?
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> - People in eligible low-income households.
> - Most adults ages 18 to 49 with no children in their home **can get SNAP for only three months in a three-year period.** The benefit period might be longer if the person works at least 20 hours a week or is in a job or training program. Some adults might not have to work to get benefits, such as those who have a disability or are pregnant.
> - Households in which all members are either older adults (age 60 and older) or people with disabilities are eligible to participate in the [Texas Simplified Application Project (TSAP)](https://www.hhs.texas.gov/services/food/snap-food-benefits/texas-simplified-application-project-tsap-snap-food-benefits), which makes the SNAP application process easier and provides three years of benefits at a time instead of six months.

My bold. THREE MONTHS in a three-year period **WITH** a work requirement. People seem to think that Food Stamps are some kind of indefinite free ride for people who just don’t feel like working.

This page doesn’t address assets, but it does clarify what the monthly cash value of the foods stamps is according to family size. We’re not talking about lots of money here. (I don’t know how to make a table…)

> ## Maximum Monthly SNAP Amount
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> Most people ages 16 to 59 must follow work rules to get SNAP benefits. Work rules mean a person must look for a job or be in an approved work program. If the person has a job, they can’t quit without a good reason.
> 
> |Family size|Monthly SNAP amount|  
> |1|$281|  
> |2|$516|  
> |3|$740|  
> |4|$939|  
> |5|$1,116|  
> …

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/673 "2023-06-26T12:34:02Z")

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The way conservatives think social safety nets should function,

[![](https://jakevdp.github.io/images/ChutesAndLadders-board.gif) ](https://jakevdp.github.io/images/ChutesAndLadders-board.gif)

Ignore the ladders.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/674 "2023-06-26T20:25:10Z")

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Every time I see the title I think: ‘Not even with someone else’s dick’. Which is really funny since I don’t even have a dick of my own! 😆

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/675 "2023-06-26T20:32:31Z")

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It’s good to think someone else thinks something like me, lol!

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/676 "2023-06-26T20:39:32Z")

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Glad to help!

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/677 "2023-06-26T20:54:21Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> And anyway, if you’re financially precarious enough that you might even _consider_ food stamps when times are bad, financing a 40k+ car is irresponsible, and again not something I’m interested in subsidizing as a rule.

If you run your affairs in a way that means you might need public assistance, you’ve obviously been irresponsible and not deserving of such assistance. On the other hand, if you don’t need that assistance, you’ve obviously been responsible and we are more than happy to help you out with whatever assistance you may need.

“That’s some catch, that Catch-22.”  
“It’s the best there is.”

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/678 "2023-06-27T01:00:53Z")

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> [@Sylvanz](#):
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> Every time I see the title I think: ‘Not even with someone else’s dick’. Which is really funny since I don’t even have a dick of my own!

I got a cactus you can borrow.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/679 "2023-06-27T01:24:54Z")

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Now there’s a thought… 🤔 🤔

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/680 "2023-06-27T02:06:51Z")

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Greg Abbott needs an adviser to explain satire to him.

> **[Texas Gov. Greg Abbott shares fake article about Garth Brooks getting booed...](https://www.fox4news.com/news/texas-gov-greg-abbott-shares-fake-article-about-garth-brooks-getting-booed-for-being-woke)**
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> Governor Abbott shared the post about a fake festival in a fake Texas city from a satire website. "Go woke. Go broke," the governor said.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/681 "2023-06-27T02:34:00Z")

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Probably the most damaging thing about it for Abbott is that he didn’t realize there’s no city named “Hambriston” in Texas.

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