# Screw Greg Abbott {Texas Governor} **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 2, 2021, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141 "2021-03-02T21:00:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 41
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/802 "2024-01-13T23:02:17Z")
This is actually part of their master plan to destroy America, authored by the people that brought you the January 6th coup attempt. The first link is to the plot itself, the second (if you don’t want to click American Greatness) is analysis and summary. > **[How States Could Constitutionally Assume Abandoned Responsibilities of the...](https://amgreatness.com/2021/08/10/how-states-could-constitutionally-assume-abandoned-responsibilities-of-the-national-government/)** > > The COVID pandemic has witnessed the exercise of state “police powers” on a scale and scope unprecedented in America’s peacetime history. Out of fear of contagion, massive amounts of private property… > **[The Seditionist’s Cookbook - The Bulwark](https://www.thebulwark.com/the-seditionists-cookbook/)** > > Is violence an essential element of the populist right’s political agenda? To claim otherwise has become increasingly difficult. A manifesto co-authored by John Eastman—the Trump lawyer who was forced to resign as dean of Chapman University Law... Here’s an excerpt: _A governor might mobilize state law enforcement and national guard units to take up positions at commonly used crossing points, and simply turn back illegal entrants, or place them in state holding centers from which they would be returned by air or other conveyance to the countries from which they entered. Equipped with a more robust constitutional mandate, eminent domain could also be used to acquire land at or near the border to erect walls and place other impediments to unauthorized entry. And this shouldn’t be by unilateral gubernatorial action, but done in concert, if at all possible, with the relevant state legislatures. **Checkpoints would also have to be established along the lines demarcating borders with states that didn’t join in this effort in order to prevent migrant circumvention.** Here COVID precedents could be drawn upon._ And please note that this is an old article, they’ve been plotting this for a while now. I guess they were waiting for the election year. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/803 "2024-01-13T23:10:46Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > And now he’s sparking a legal fight with the Border Patrol. I have to believe the orders come from him, because an officer wouldn’t make a call like refusing entry to the DHS on his own, would he? Unless he’s a true believer. I really think Abbott’s goal is to recreate Orval Faubus’ standoff with federal troops on the steps of Little Rock High School. Ironically, he’d have to use the ramp, which wouldn’t be there but for the federal Americans with Disabilities Act. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/804 "2024-01-13T23:24:07Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Which is weird given how Christians used to be the ones who were persecuted. They are persecuted because we don’t allow them to murder people they don’t like. Unfair! ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/805 "2024-01-13T23:57:15Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > Jose Andres does this all the time at the drop of a hat. Greg could hire Jose Andres to handle the program, except for the name “Jose” and the fact that the dude speaks with the same (or at least similar) accent as the undeserving people Greg wants to starve. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/806 "2024-01-14T01:47:50Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > I really think Abbott’s goal is to recreate Orval Faubus’ standoff Not sure if he can participate in one. Just sayin’. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/807 "2024-01-14T04:21:29Z")
Abbott says the only thing he and his henchmen aren’t doing to migrants is shooting them because he “doesn’t want to get charged with murder”. That’s a pretty odd statement for a couple of reasons. First, his little stunt with the razor wire on the floats in the Rio Grande have already gotten people killed. Shooting’s not the only way to commit murder, Guv. And, of course, his statement really leaves a lot of “wiggle room”. So he’s not shooting people, but he’s doing everything else, i suppose? That means rape isn’t off the table. And why would I not be surprised if that happens. To paraphrase a line from, I think it was, \*Crucifer of Blood", “His henchmen hate fucking migrants except, oddly enough, when they’re fucking migrants.” And this is the so-called party of good Christian values? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/808 "2024-01-14T05:02:18Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > And this is the so-called party of good Christian values? They wouldn’t be able to recognize good Christian values if Hobby Lobby had a discount sale. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/809 "2024-01-14T05:27:31Z")
And now a woman and two children have died because of Greg Abbott’s stunt. They were trying to cross the river and got into trouble near Shelby Park, Mexican authorities alerted the Border Patrol about the situation, but the Texas authorities denied them entrance to the park to try to save the migrants. As a Texan, I say send the tanks. > **[Three migrants drowned near Eagle Pass park after Border Patrol was denied...](https://www.texastribune.org/2024/01/13/henry-cuellar-texas-border-eagle-pass/)** > > Texas officers took control over Shelby Park against the city’s wishes on Wednesday and have since blocked U.S. Border Patrol agents from entering. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/810 "2024-01-14T06:35:00Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > > [@Monty](#): > > > > And this is the so-called party of good Christian values? > > They wouldn’t be able to recognize good Christian values if Hobby Lobby had a discount sale. I laughed. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/811 "2024-01-14T06:42:03Z")
I agree. The Feds need to put a stop to abbott’s posturing. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/812 "2024-01-14T07:12:10Z")
But according to no less an authority than Nikki Haley, it was “The Federals” interfering in states’ matters that caused the Civil War. Do you really want to risk that over a few brown people? (/s, in case it wasn’t obvious) ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/813 "2024-01-14T22:10:19Z")
As governor Abbott is the “buck stops here” authority in Texas the deaths are his fault then. He needs to face criminal charges. As do the Texas ‘authorities’" who blocked the Feds. _“I was only following orders.”_ Where have we heard that before? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/814 "2024-01-15T02:46:11Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > _“I was only following orders.”_ Where have we heard that before? For these pricks, that’s a feature, not a bug. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/815 "2024-01-17T00:21:18Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I laughed. It’s not your fault, since you were obviously responding to a different post, which you quoted, but seeing this response immediately after the previous post about the drowned migrants, gave me a start as I wondered whether Abbott had joined the Dope. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/816 "2024-01-17T00:28:24Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > It’s not your fault, since you were obviously responding to a different post, which you quoted, but seeing this response immediately after the previous post about the drowned migrants, gave me a start as l wondered whether Abbott had joined the Dope. And that, boys and girls, is why quoting the post you’re responding to is best practice. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/817 "2024-01-17T00:47:32Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Texas is passing up nearly $350 million in federal aid to help feed millions of low-income children Can Biden give that money over to Chicago, New York, Denver et al. to help pay for all of the migrants Abbott is sending our way? I think someone needs to remind him that Texas is no longer an independent republic, despite how he runs the state. No wonder all you Texicans are moving to Colorado. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/818 "2024-01-17T02:52:45Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > And that, boys and girls, is why quoting the post you’re responding to is best practice. YES YES YES! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/819 "2024-02-01T02:24:39Z")
Well, looks like Abbott is gaining fans… in Russia. They love what he’s doing. > **[Russian TV host rejoices at Texas border "civil war" hurting Ukraine](https://www.newsweek.com/russia-state-tv-texas-border-control-greg-abbott-joe-biden-donald-trump-1864605)** > > The U.S. could face "civil war 2.0," said Russian state media host, Sergey Mardan. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2024, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/820 "2024-11-29T09:12:58Z")
And you think the courts are going to stop “the cruelty is the point” or even state government overreach? [Dream on!](https://apnews.com/article/texas-immigration-border-razor-wire-d6ac24f9d7eb62b9c14cc0fb4498b27e) (The link goes to AP.) > A federal appeals court Wednesday ruled that Border Patrol agents cannot cut [razor wire that Texas installed](https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-immigration-texas-razor-wire-9daef6bd316211b6633ece718e505187) on the U.S.-Mexico border in the town of Eagle Pass, which has [become the center](https://apnews.com/article/abbott-biden-border-convoy-eagle-pass-f26d91bdef9802570c5aa9752598622f) of the state’s aggressive measures to curb migrant crossings. IIRC, this razor wire has already killed people crossing. Be proud of your governor, Texas! ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141/821 "2024-12-02T20:30:27Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > And you think the courts are going to stop “the cruelty is the point” or even state government overreach? [Dream on!](https://apnews.com/article/texas-immigration-border-razor-wire-d6ac24f9d7eb62b9c14cc0fb4498b27e) (The link goes to AP.) It all becomes moot anyway in a couple of months when Texas and the Feds become entirely simpatico regarding the border. I would not be surprised if we end up deploying anti-personel land mines on the border. ([very depressing Quora thread](https://www.quora.com/Should-we-place-landmines-on-the-US-southern-border)) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141.md?page=40) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141.md?page=42)