# Screw this hater of his own race

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 26, 2016, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-this-hater-of-his-own-race/775670 "2016-12-26T23:24:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2016, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-this-hater-of-his-own-race/775670/1 "2016-12-26T23:24:17Z")

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[Professor under fire for tweet that appeared to support ‘white genocide’](http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-professor-white-genocide-tweet-20161226-story.html)

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> A Drexel University professor has been summoned to a meeting with school officials after he tweeted a Christmas Eve message that appeared to support “white genocide.”
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> George Ciccariello-Maher, who is white and an associate professor of politics at the Philadelphia university, told the Associated Press by email Monday that his Christmas Eve message to nearly 11,000 Twitter followers — “All I Want for Christmas is White Genocide” — was meant to be satirical.
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> The professor told AP he was mocking what he called the “imaginary concept” of white genocide, which he says was invented by white supremacists.
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> “It is a figment of the racist imagination, it should be mocked, and I’m glad to have mocked it,” he said.

You know, I almost fell for that explanation until I read the next paragraph

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> Ciccariello-Maher followed up his initial tweet by praising the “massacre” of whites in Haiti during the country’s slave uprising and revolution more than two centuries ago.

Fuck you, you racist piece of shit. You’re as bad as the people you condemn. If a race war did commence (and scum like you are doing their utmost to foment one) I hope you’re the first white massacred.

BTW I’m glad to see that Drexel University is taking this seriously. I hope they fire his ass.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-this-hater-of-his-own-race/775670/2 "2016-12-27T00:20:25Z")

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The man is an idiot, so too will be most of those who condemn him.

Me, I’ve never gotten the whole race/racism thing. People are such assholes and of all the perfectly good reasons to dislike someone, they go with _color._

I am of Caucasian ancestry and am a pretty “pasty” fellow, but I regard myself as a “racial agnostic”.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-this-hater-of-his-own-race/775670/3 "2016-12-27T00:38:21Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> The man is an idiot, so too will be most of those who condemn him.

^ This.

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**Author:** ![CatandMouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@CatandMouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatandMouse)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-this-hater-of-his-own-race/775670/4 "2016-12-27T02:36:33Z")

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He’s right about one thing, white genocide is an imaginary concept invented by white supremacists.

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**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-this-hater-of-his-own-race/775670/5 "2016-12-27T03:24:39Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> Fuck you, you racist piece of shit. You’re as bad as the people you condemn. If a race war did commence (and scum like you are doing their utmost to foment one) I hope you’re the first white massacred.

Present day America doesn’t strike me as comparable to colonial Haiti so I doubt there’s much chance for this happening. That country’s 1791 slave uprising and revolution **ended** a long race-war started by European colonialists in 1492.

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**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-this-hater-of-his-own-race/775670/6 "2016-12-27T04:24:43Z")

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The man is now claiming his message is just a parody of the pig-brained useless racists who loudly, on the internet and everywhere else, think that any non-white, non-racist person of influence and any proponent of racial/ethnic inclusion is a harbinger of “white genocide,” which, since there _is_ no such thing as white genocide, just the inevitable decline of dimwitted white supremacy, does not present any actual (immediate) threat to them.

He should probably not have written his tweet so graphically, but even if he hadn’t, the pig-brained, useless racists would have their fun anyhow.

In any event, since the professor didn’t actually enslave or murder anyone, he’s not as bad as the people he condemns.

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**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-this-hater-of-his-own-race/775670/7 "2016-12-27T04:43:38Z")

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And, Good Lord, “Hater of his own race?”

What morally bankrupt, ethically empty, religiously maladjusted, kind of intellectually inert lump do you have to be to think both that hating is okay (stand down, you express plenty) but also that hating _one’s own race_ is beyond (excuse the expression) the pale?

**aldiboranti** , sorry that I spent the time on you. Because time is again not on your side. Your children will speak less of you, your grandchildren even less, and they will teach their children not to remember you at all.

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**Author:** ![CatandMouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@CatandMouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatandMouse)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-this-hater-of-his-own-race/775670/8 "2016-12-27T06:23:47Z")

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> [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](#):
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> The man is now claiming his message is just a parody of the pig-brained useless racists who loudly, on the internet and everywhere else, think that any non-white, non-racist person of influence and any proponent of racial/ethnic inclusion is a harbinger of “white genocide,” which, since there _is_ no such thing as white genocide, just the inevitable decline of dimwitted white supremacy, does not present any actual (immediate) threat to them.
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> He should probably not have written his tweet so graphically, but even if he hadn’t, the pig-brained, useless racists would have their fun anyhow.
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> In any event, since the professor didn’t actually enslave or murder anyone, he’s not as bad as the people he condemns.

Thank you!

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-this-hater-of-his-own-race/775670/9 "2016-12-27T09:21:23Z")

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> [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](#):
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> And, Good Lord, “Hater of his own race?”
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> What morally bankrupt, ethically empty, religiously maladjusted, kind of intellectually inert lump do you have to be to think both that hating is okay (stand down, you express plenty) but also that hating _one’s own race_ is beyond (excuse the expression) the pale?
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> **aldiboranti** , sorry that I spent the time on you. Because time is again not on your side. Your children will speak less of you, your grandchildren even less, and they will teach their children not to remember you at all.

If hating your own race is just fine and dandy with you then I too regret the time I have spent in desling with you in this reply.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-this-hater-of-his-own-race/775670/10 "2016-12-27T09:57:30Z")

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Anyone who unironically utters (or publishes) the phrase “hater of his own race” probably thinks that a decent person can use “illegal” as a noun, and deserves either scorn or pity (possibly a combination of the two).

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-this-hater-of-his-own-race/775670/11 "2016-12-27T10:11:54Z")

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“White genocide”. Where, in America? That’s funny. Look out White people! Here comes your genocide!

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**Author:** ![Skara\_Brae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Skara\_Brae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skara_Brae)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-this-hater-of-his-own-race/775670/12 "2016-12-27T13:34:36Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> If hating your own race is just fine and dandy with you then I too regret the time I have spent in desling with you in this reply.

Is hating your own race worse than hating anyone else because of their race?

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-this-hater-of-his-own-race/775670/13 "2016-12-27T13:43:15Z")

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I can see the satire. I can’t see the outrage except from racists who believe that some kind of ‘white genocide’ is a realistic concept.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-this-hater-of-his-own-race/775670/14 "2016-12-27T13:49:40Z")

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Trump: I’m dreaming of a white America after we nuke all the blacks, Muslims and Mexicans!  
Liberals: What the fuck???  
\*\*aldiboronti \*\*: Calm down libtards, can’t you take joke? LOL.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-this-hater-of-his-own-race/775670/15 "2016-12-27T14:04:24Z")

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I certainly can’t blame Haitian slaves for committing violence against their masters and supporters of their masters in their quest to be free. Similarly, I wouldn’t judge any concentration/death camp internee for killing Nazis in their quest to be free (or even in the chaos of the aftermath), and I wouldn’t judge any American slaves and abolitionists, like Nat Turner or John Brown, for committing violence against slavers and supporters of slavery. Slavery is a crime against humanity, and slaves (and abolitionists) are entirely justified in using any and all efforts, including deadly force, to free themselves and their fellow slaves.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-this-hater-of-his-own-race/775670/16 "2016-12-27T15:35:47Z")

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Well, when a nation of slaves overthrows the masters and takes charge of their own destiny, I’m not going to be shocked that they kill their masters.

The rest of it is just a racist jackass (the OP) whining more.

No children, but my nieces and nephew and their children will marry whoever the fuck they want and life will go on. I do not care one whit what color or ‘race’ their descendants end up being.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-this-hater-of-his-own-race/775670/17 "2016-12-27T15:55:43Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> If hating your own race is just fine and dandy with you then I too regret the time I have spent in desling with you in this reply.

You’ve been whooshed, you fucking idiot. The guy trolled you very successfully.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-this-hater-of-his-own-race/775670/18 "2016-12-27T16:27:23Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> I can see the satire. I can’t see the outrage except from racists who believe that some kind of ‘white genocide’ is a realistic concept.

Some of our neo-Nazis definitely fear “[White Genocide](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_genocide_conspiracy_theory)”

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> White genocide is a white nationalist conspiracy theory that mass immigration, integration, miscegenation, low fertility rates and abortion are being promoted in predominantly white countries to deliberately turn them minority-white and hence cause white people to become extinct through forced assimilation. The phrase “Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white”, coined by high-profile white nationalist Robert Whitaker, is commonly associated with the topic of white genocide. It has been spotted on billboards near Birmingham, Alabama and in Harrison, Arkansas.

Of course it’s crap–but the ranks of White Nationalism are full of credulous fools. Like the ones who take the professor’s Tweet seriously.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-this-hater-of-his-own-race/775670/19 "2016-12-27T16:31:46Z")

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[Here’s more](http://www.philly.com/philly/news/Drexel-officials-Professor-George-Ciccariello-Mahers-White-Genocide-tweet-was-utterly-reprehensible.html) on the case.

From his email in response:

[QUOTE=George Ciccariello-Meyer]  
On Christmas Eve, I sent a satirical tweet about an imaginary concept, ‘white genocide,’" he said in an e-mail. 'For those who haven’t bothered to do their research, ‘white genocide’ is an idea invented by white supremacists and used to denounce everything from interracial relationships to multicultural policies (and most recently, against a tweet by State Farm Insurance). It is a figment of the racist imagination, it should be mocked, and I’m glad to have mocked it.  
[/QUOTE]

It doesn’t sound like the response of someone who was genuinely advocating “white genocide” to me.

It should be mentioned that Ciccariello-Meyer’s tweets were not public, but made from a protected account.

Now, I’ll grant that this was a stupid thing to do. He should have realized that some people, such as the OP, were so naive and gullible as to take it at face value. But the OP calling for his death in response to this is what’s really beyond the pale.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-this-hater-of-his-own-race/775670/20 "2016-12-27T16:45:20Z")

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> Hey, you know something people? I’m not black, But there’s a whole lots a times. I wish I could say I’m not white.

_Trouble Coming Every Day_, St. Francis of Zappa, 1966.

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