# Screw you, Burl Ives!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-you-burl-ives/1011833>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 18, 2024, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-you-burl-ives/1011833 "2024-12-18T22:59:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2024, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-you-burl-ives/1011833/61 "2024-12-20T20:51:48Z")

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Did you know the B-section lines up perfectly with “they’re eating the dogs, they’re eating the cats”?

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/9SeMHr-sYuM/maxresdefault.jpg "Trump - "They're Eating the Dogs" Matched Up Perfectly to the Peanuts Theme Song") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SeMHr-sYuM)

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2024, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-you-burl-ives/1011833/62 "2024-12-20T20:51:55Z")

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That’s funny, I always thought “Put a Little Love in Your Heart” was stolen from the Beatles’ “Baby, You’re a Rich Man.”

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2024, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-you-burl-ives/1011833/63 "2024-12-20T20:53:42Z")

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> [@Spiderman](#):
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> > [@Yllaria](#):
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> > You all have reminded me that I haven’t watched [The Christmas Can-Can](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E-47VmFopE) yet this year. It’s sung by Straight No Chaser.
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> If you’re going to introduce people to SNC, at least introduce them to the song that made them _really_ [famous](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fe11OlMiz8)

And be sure to check out their rendition of “We Three Kings” in 5/4 time:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Tv_txDURiDU/maxresdefault.jpg "Straight No Chaser - We Three Kings") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv_txDURiDU)

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2024, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-you-burl-ives/1011833/64 "2024-12-20T21:26:39Z")

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Thanks to both of you. I’ll listen to these as soon as I get home.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2024, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-you-burl-ives/1011833/65 "2024-12-26T22:52:12Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> I haven’t heard “Last Christmas” ONCE so far.

We regret to inform you all that I did indeed unequivocally hear “Last Christmas” yesterday. That being said, I made it to 4PM Christmas day, which I think is a pretty good run.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2025, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-you-burl-ives/1011833/66 "2025-01-05T21:36:07Z")

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I used to frequent Barnes & Noble a lot, and they always had the same Xmas song by (I think) Harry Connick Jr. playing. It was almost like it was on a continuous loop. Kind of a melancholic dirge. I casually looked for it once, but wasn’t sad to not find it.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-you-burl-ives/1011833/67 "2025-12-02T17:12:40Z")

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We regret to inform you that I went yesterday to the supermarket with the radio station that only plays Christmas music this time of year (so this is entirely on me), and I had to endure the fucking holly jolly Christmas again. Albeit in a cover by Michael Bublé. Fuck you, Michael Bublé!

AND I lost Whammageddon. Still haven’t heard “Silver Bells”, though, so I’ve got that.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-you-burl-ives/1011833/68 "2025-12-02T18:04:00Z")

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Walking in to school yesterday, I passed the band room, and heard what sounded suspiciously like “Last Christmas”. Later that day, I saw the instrumental music teacher in the break room, and he confirmed that they’re playing that for the Christmas concert. Along with “All I Want for Christmas is You”.

I always go to all the concerts, for the students’ sake… but man, it’s going to be tough this year.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-you-burl-ives/1011833/69 "2025-12-07T23:13:38Z")

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We regret to inform you that I heard part of a jazzy version of “Silver Bells” today. Such is life.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-you-burl-ives/1011833/70 "2025-12-08T00:14:57Z")

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That’s how I feel about Paul McCartney’s “Wonderful Christmas Time.” I do understand why some people don’t like it.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-you-burl-ives/1011833/71 "2025-12-08T00:27:48Z")

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Ugh, no, you said it! Now there’s a risk of memetic contamination, and I’ll end up with that horrid song stuck in my head!

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-you-burl-ives/1011833/72 "2025-12-08T00:29:57Z")

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I somehow never heard “Wonderful Christmas Time” until 2012, in France, and I’m still not quite convinced it was ever on The Christmas Song Canon List before that.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-you-burl-ives/1011833/73 "2025-12-08T01:21:36Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Paul McCartney’s “Wonderful Christmas Time.” I do understand why some people don’t like it.

The lyrics are INANE. At least Silver Bells is describing something, and Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer is parodying a murder ballad at the same time as parodying a Christmas carol.

This is also my objection to Jingle Bell Rock and Rockin’ Around the Christmas Tree, but I don’t think Burl Ives covered either of those.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2025, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-you-burl-ives/1011833/74 "2025-12-09T18:16:23Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> This is also my objection to Jingle Bell Rock and Rockin’ Around the Christmas Tree, but I don’t think Burl Ives covered either of those.

Maybe, maybe not…

> **[Jingle Bell Rock — Burl Ives | Last.fm](https://www.last.fm/music/Burl+Ives/_/Jingle+Bell+Rock)**
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> Read about Jingle Bell Rock by Burl Ives and see the artwork, lyrics and similar artists.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2025, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-you-burl-ives/1011833/75 "2025-12-09T18:51:35Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> > [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> > This is also my objection to Jingle Bell Rock and Rockin’ Around the Christmas Tree, but I don’t think Burl Ives covered either of those.
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> Maybe, maybe not…

Nothing at Second Hand Songs.

[Jingle Bell Rock](https://secondhandsongs.com/work/47639/versions)

[Rockin’ Around the Christmas Tree](https://secondhandsongs.com/work/10154/versions)

Never take anything at Last.FM at face value, they simply repeat whatever users have listed in their music library. Which led to the site [confusing Johnny Horton with Johnny Rebel.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Rebel_(musician)#Misattributions)

ETA:[I guess that will never go away](https://www.last.fm/search?q=i+hate+niggers) (linked blurred due to hate speech; fourth one down).

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2025, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-you-burl-ives/1011833/76 "2025-12-09T18:57:35Z")

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[URL= [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nytpYtLtHpE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nytpYtLtHpE)] This will make you feel better. [/URL]

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2025, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-you-burl-ives/1011833/77 "2025-12-09T19:35:34Z")

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Forget _that_, here’s a rocking cover of “You’re a Mean One, Mr. Grinch” by the Whirling Dervishes: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjmTkQk0zA4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjmTkQk0zA4)

Since it doesn’t mention Christmas, does “You’re a Mean One” actually count as a Christmas song? I can’t be bothered to go through the lyrics to check.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-you-burl-ives/1011833/78 "2025-12-10T17:25:15Z")

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The best version of [Frosty the Snowman](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXfDBH2bij4&list=RDMXfDBH2bij4&start_radio=1)

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-you-burl-ives/1011833/79 "2025-12-10T17:45:36Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> Since it doesn’t mention Christmas, does “You’re a Mean One” actually count as a Christmas song? I can’t be bothered to go through the lyrics to check.

Since it is part of a cherished Christmas special, it fits in under the “show exemption”, same as Linus and Lucy. More so, it is part of the Grinch’s journey from heel to hero, and his understanding the True Meaning Of Christmas!

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-you-burl-ives/1011833/80 "2025-12-10T23:39:36Z")

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Well, yes, obviously the song comes from a Christmas special, but since it’s Thurl Ravenscroft describing what a piece of shit the Grinch is for three minutes, with no mention of Christmas, couldn’t one hypothetically play it at other times of the year? Grinches are associated with [other holidays](https://www.google.com/search?q=Halloween+is+Grinch+Night), after all.

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