# Scum and villainy: Republicans already throwing Palin under the bus. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 6, 2008, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-and-villainy-republicans-already-throwing-palin-under-the-bus/471420 "2008-11-06T05:44:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-and-villainy-republicans-already-throwing-palin-under-the-bus/471420/201 "2008-11-08T09:42:49Z")
> [@DoctorJ](#): > > I’ve seen Huckabee’s name on a list of possibilities for chair of the RNC. That’s what worries me–he could be the GOP’s Howard Dean. (Whatever you thought of Dean as a candidate, you can’t argue with his success as DNC chair.) Which means the party’s focus will be on religious issues primarily, which is a good way to drive people towards the Dems again. A bit counterproductive, especially if Obama’s managed to turn the country in the right direction. ---
**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-and-villainy-republicans-already-throwing-palin-under-the-bus/471420/202 "2008-11-08T12:30:25Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > One of the other faction leaders of the GOP is declaring, “Now, you die, and we all move up in rank!” Dammit! That made me laugh and spit coffee! ---
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-and-villainy-republicans-already-throwing-palin-under-the-bus/471420/203 "2008-11-08T15:00:31Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > \Keep him as FAR away from the White House as possible, as far as I’m concerned! Then bookmark [this link](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfSN4fnXwKM) and distribute it when necessary. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-and-villainy-republicans-already-throwing-palin-under-the-bus/471420/204 "2008-11-08T16:00:22Z")
> [@DoctorJ](#): > > From **Voyager’s** link: > > I don’t think she got nearly _enough_ shit about her decision to get on an all-day flight after having premature rupture of membranes in her high-risk pregnancy. I would have thought much better of her if she had just turned out to be covering for Bristol. What DoctorJ said. There’s a long tradition of that sort of thing in American families. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-and-villainy-republicans-already-throwing-palin-under-the-bus/471420/205 "2008-11-08T19:08:28Z")
[64 percent of Republicans want Palin to run for President in 2012.](http://thinkprogress.org/2008/11/07/palin-2012-poll/): > [@](#): > > In a new Rasmussen poll out today, Republicans overwhelmingly say that they want Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as their presidential nominee in 2012. Sixty-four percent of GOP respondents said that Palin would be their top choice in 2012 > [snip] > In the same poll, 69 percent of Republicans said that Palin “helped John McCain’s bid for the presidency,” even though exit polls found that 60 percent of voters felt that she was “not qualified to be president if necessary.” [Here’s a direct link to the poll.](http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2012/69_of_gop_voters_say_palin_helped_mccain) All I can say is that the next four years will define the GOP for the next four decades. If it can pull through as a single party with all of the constituent blocks it held in 2000 and 2004 I’ll be amazed. ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-and-villainy-republicans-already-throwing-palin-under-the-bus/471420/206 "2008-11-08T19:53:11Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > [64 percent of Republicans want Palin to run for President in 2012.](http://thinkprogress.org/2008/11/07/palin-2012-poll/):[Here’s a direct link to the poll.](http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2012/69_of_gop_voters_say_palin_helped_mccain) > > All I can say is that the next four years will define the GOP for the next four decades. If it can pull through as a single party with all of the constituent blocks it held in 2000 and 2004 I’ll be amazed. I have to wonder if this isn’t the reason McCain staffers are bashing Palin so hard right now. They know they brought the monster to life. Now, for the good of the party they are trying to drive a stake through its heart before it gets too big to kill. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-and-villainy-republicans-already-throwing-palin-under-the-bus/471420/207 "2008-11-08T20:07:28Z")
> [@Sternvogel](#): > > I have to wonder if this isn’t the reason McCain staffers are bashing Palin so hard right now. They know they brought the monster to life. Now, for the good of the party they are trying to drive a stake through its heart before it gets too big to kill. I say that everyone who voted for Obama now pushes for Palin to run in 2012. They won’t be able to keep her isolated with her at the top of the ticket, so the public will get to see _exactly_ how stupid she is, and so long as Obama can refrain from saying, “Jane, you poor ignorant slut.” during any of the debates, his reelection will be assured. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-and-villainy-republicans-already-throwing-palin-under-the-bus/471420/208 "2008-11-08T20:09:06Z")
> [@Sternvogel](#): > > I have to wonder if this isn’t the reason McCain staffers are bashing Palin so hard right now. They know they brought the monster to life. Now, for the good of the party they are trying to drive a stake through its heart before it gets too big to kill. Part of the reason for selecting Palin was to appeal to the masses of PUMAs that were supposedly disaffected from the Democratic Party after Hillary lost the primaries. I suspect that some of the Republican inner circle is sweating bullets at the thought of a **real** PUMA schism causing a lot of their base to sit on their hands if Palin gets shot down in the 2012 primaries. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-and-villainy-republicans-already-throwing-palin-under-the-bus/471420/209 "2008-11-08T20:25:22Z")
Dick Cheney will telepathically strangle her now: “Apology accepted - _Mrs_ Palin”. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-and-villainy-republicans-already-throwing-palin-under-the-bus/471420/210 "2008-11-08T20:34:52Z")
> [@Scissorjack](#): > > Dick Cheney will telepathically strangle her now: “Apology accepted - _Mrs_ Palin”. You misspelled “telekinetically,” unless you think dying in our dreams means we die in real life. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-and-villainy-republicans-already-throwing-palin-under-the-bus/471420/211 "2008-11-08T21:24:08Z")
Darth Pedant ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-and-villainy-republicans-already-throwing-palin-under-the-bus/471420/212 "2008-11-08T21:27:32Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > You misspelled “telekinetically,” unless you think dying in our dreams means we die in real life. I’d be willing to entertain the notion that Cheney is actually Freddy Krueger. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-and-villainy-republicans-already-throwing-palin-under-the-bus/471420/213 "2008-11-08T21:49:34Z")
> [@pepperlandgirl](#): > > I’d be willing to entertain the notion that Cheney is actually Freddy Krueger. [Dr. Freud] So you think your Vice President is a child molestor. Interesting. [/DF] 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-and-villainy-republicans-already-throwing-palin-under-the-bus/471420/214 "2008-11-09T01:00:35Z")
> [@DoctorJ](#): > > From **Voyager’s** link: > > I don’t think she got nearly _enough_ shit about her decision to get on an all-day flight after having premature rupture of membranes in her high-risk pregnancy. I would have thought much better of her if she had just turned out to be covering for Bristol. Now, see, that was one slur that DID bother me-the accusation that Trig was actually Bristol’s child. If only because it probably hurt Bristol more than it did her mother-and she had enough to contend with-what with being pregnant and all. Yeah, I cannot STAND her mother-but what the hell did she do to deserve any of this bullshit? (It’s like when poor Chelsea Clinton had to endure everyone trashing her looks just because they didn’t like her father) ---
**Author:** ![Spiny\_Norman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Spiny\_Norman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiny_Norman)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-and-villainy-republicans-already-throwing-palin-under-the-bus/471420/215 "2008-11-09T01:36:11Z")
- isn’t it time for him to step up in defense of his running mate? I’ve no love and very little respect for Palin, yet even I think some of the attacks are unsportsmanlike. Doesn’t McCain have a little bit of an obligation to try to keep her from being destroyed? ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-and-villainy-republicans-already-throwing-palin-under-the-bus/471420/216 "2008-11-09T01:57:27Z")
Well, she had a responsibility to stay on message and not destroy his campaign. i’d call it even ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-and-villainy-republicans-already-throwing-palin-under-the-bus/471420/217 "2008-11-09T01:57:39Z")
Guin, I understand your position on that. But the whole, long-drawn out flight thing that day… it’s just something I can’t comprehend, risking your life and your child’s life for no reason at all. Even when they got back to Alaska, going the hell and gone a few hours further past three perfectly good hospitals. It’s not that I hoped it was Bristol’s child. I was saying, ‘Well… yeah, but I can _understand_ if it were that way.’ The other option… it just makes no sense. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-and-villainy-republicans-already-throwing-palin-under-the-bus/471420/218 "2008-11-09T02:05:26Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > Guin, I understand your position on that. But the whole, long-drawn out flight thing that day… it’s just something I can’t comprehend, risking your life and your child’s life for no reason at all. Even when they got back to Alaska, going the hell and gone a few hours further past three perfectly good hospitals. > > It’s not that I hoped it was Bristol’s child. I was saying, ‘Well… yeah, but I can _understand_ if it were that way.’ The other option… it just makes no sense. I understand that, and I think what she did was inexcusable as well. Just that I also feel bad for Bristol-and really, from what I’ve read, the timing of the two pregnancies make it impossible. (Add in that it’s more common for a woman in her forties to have a Downs child, and well, there you have it.) I wasn’t saying anyone HERE-you or **DoctorJ** necessarily were bashing her, either. But the slams from the left seemed to me just as bad as those against Chelsea. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-and-villainy-republicans-already-throwing-palin-under-the-bus/471420/219 "2008-11-09T02:23:10Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Too good not to share: [the Conservatives continue to eat themselves](http://www.redstate.com/diaries/erick/2008/nov/05/operation-leper). Yep, this is the “prominent blog” I referred to in my post a few pages back. Do not underestimate how angry Palin’s fans are about this whole business. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-and-villainy-republicans-already-throwing-palin-under-the-bus/471420/220 "2008-11-09T02:49:55Z")
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