# Scum mafia: On Cecil pond \[Game Over\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 24, 2010, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202 "2010-01-24T05:10:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/21 "2010-01-24T18:51:33Z")
I’m in! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/22 "2010-01-24T19:04:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Freudian, I assume there will be ‘Spawn 1’ and ‘Spawn 2’ or something like it. So you would > > vote Spawn 1 Pretty much, yeah. > [@](#): > > Chronos: Will there be one or two Spawn during Summer 1? One. The one at the start of the game is the one that appears at the beginning of Summer 1. Oh, and I forgot to ask before, but it’d make things easier for me if you put mod questions in green so I’ll notice them. 1: special\_ed 2: ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 3: Drain Bead 4: Oredigger77 5: storyteller0910 6: Meeko 7: Mahaloth 8: Freudian Slit 9: USCDiver 10: Tom Scud 11: peekercpa 12: Natlaw 13: Zeriel 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/23 "2010-01-24T19:16:45Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > sounds like fun. sign me up. i’ve got to do better than last stinking game. > > btw, i never got my mvp trophy from the scum team. I’m sure I amassed a complete set in my past, If you want, I can let you have some of mine. I’ve actually been reviewing my old games. In crimson, seems like have the forbidden thread posters had me as “psycho” or similar. I commented to that with “I know I have the madness. D–n, if only I had the method.” ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/24 "2010-01-24T19:17:46Z")
NETA: that’s Half, not have. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/25 "2010-01-24T19:50:21Z")
I’m also going to try and be more active than last game. Doing my best, anyway. OK, so I’m trying to understand the setup. Forgive me if questions were clearly explained. I’ve read and re-read and I’m trying to process this. 1. How many Spawn are alive on Summer One? 2. Does the game begin with Summer One? 3. Are we allowed to know how the Spawns “decisions” are made? You said randomly, I believe, but how? I assume “randomly” includes not lysing anyone during Winter as a choice? ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/26 "2010-01-24T19:55:03Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > /in > > So it’s possible for the spawn to randomly change the wishes of the Scum if there were, say, 2 spawn and one Scum and the spawn happen to randomly select the same player to lyse? > > Freudian, I assume there will be ‘Spawn 1’ and ‘Spawn 2’ or something like it. So you would > > **vote Spawn 1** Okay, hmm…so it’ll be a choice between choosing between one of the two? Because we know that spawn are bad, I’m just wondering why wouldn’t we automatically always vote for them? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/27 "2010-01-24T20:19:37Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Okay, hmm…so it’ll be a choice between choosing between one of the two? Because we know that spawn are bad, I’m just wondering why wouldn’t we automatically always vote for them? Can we choose to place two votes on suspected scum instead of one “spawn vote” and one “scum vote”? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/28 "2010-01-24T20:20:22Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I’m also going to try and be more active than last game. Doing my best, anyway. > > OK, so I’m trying to understand the setup. Forgive me if questions were clearly explained. I’ve read and re-read and I’m trying to process this. > > 1. How many Spawn are alive on Summer One? > > 2. Does the game begin with Summer One? > > 3. Are we allowed to know how the Spawns “decisions” are made? You said randomly, I believe, but how? I assume “randomly” includes not lysing anyone during Winter as a choice? 1. During Summer 1, there will be one Spawn alive. 2. Last sentence of the OP: > [@](#): > > The game will start at the beginning of Summer 1. 1. At the end of the Summer, each Spawn will randomly select two players (including possibly Scum, but not Spawn). At the end of the Winter, each Spawn will place a vote on the Scum board for one randomly-selected non-Scum player. This does mean that, if there are more Spawn than Scum, the Scum might find themselves killing someone other than who they’d like, but the Scum will never accidentally kill a Scum during the Winter. > [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Okay, hmm…so it’ll be a choice between choosing between one of the two? Because we know that spawn are bad, I’m just wondering why wouldn’t we automatically always vote for them? You can choose to Lyse two human players, a human player and a spawn, or two spawn. Which you choose is a matter of strategy, which I would recommend you hold off on until you have your roles. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/29 "2010-01-24T20:21:23Z")
> [@](#): > > Can we choose to place two votes on suspected scum instead of one “spawn vote” and one “scum vote”? Yes, on two different suspected scum. You can’t put both of your votes on the same person, though. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/30 "2010-01-24T20:22:55Z")
OK. Does lyse=lynch? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/31 "2010-01-24T21:22:29Z")
Yes, it’s just a change in terminology to match the color. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/32 "2010-01-24T21:28:01Z")
Actually what I meant to say before I brain shorted, was is the reason we’re saying lyse because of Lysol? If so very cute. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/33 "2010-01-24T21:50:25Z")
The biological process known as [lysis](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysis) predates Lysol and was the inspiration for the product name. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/34 "2010-01-24T22:06:30Z")
\*\*Given that it is random, is it possible for Spawn to take out Scum? How exactly do spawn form? Is it n+1 for each summer or is it n\*2 for each summer?\*\* Where n = the number of spawn just before the next generation of spawn are created. Should we try not to get spawn wet, or to feed them after midnight? ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/35 "2010-01-24T22:23:47Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Strategy discussion is not permitted during Winter, though I will not be enforcing this rule in any way. I am not real clear on how the above differs from “strategy discussion is permitted during Winter.” ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/36 "2010-01-24T22:27:45Z")
> [@](#): > > Given that it is random, is it possible for Spawn to take out Scum? A Spawn might cast the deciding vote that leads to a Scum getting lysed in the Summer, but a Spawn will not outcompete a Scum in the winter. > [@](#): > > How exactly do spawn form? Is it n+1 for each summer or is it n\*2 for each summer? One is produced every Summer, no matter how many existed before. > [@](#): > > Should we try not to get spawn wet, or to feed them after midnight? Not getting them wet will be difficult, since we are after all living in a pond. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/37 "2010-01-24T22:30:17Z")
> [@](#): > > I am not real clear on how the above differs from “strategy discussion is permitted during Winter.” I’ve heard folks say that they appreciate having a break from the game, but on the other hand I don’t want to arbitrate exactly what constitutes strategy discussion. I’ve seen other games where the moderator said they wouldn’t be enforcing that rule, and the players seemed to do a pretty good job of sticking to it anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/38 "2010-01-24T23:08:04Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > One is produced every Summer, no matter how many existed before. > > Not getting them wet will be difficult, since we are after all living in a pond. \*\* 1. To be perfectly clear: Pond has to place a vote on Spawn in their final summer to win. Correct? \*\* 2. Please tell me I didn’t woosh you here. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/39 "2010-01-25T02:40:41Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > \*\* > > 1. To be perfectly clear: Pond has to place a vote on Spawn in their final summer to win. Correct? \*\* Far as I can tell. I will be watching this game with great interest, but am spoiled and cannot play. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/40 "2010-01-25T03:00:59Z")
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