# Scum mafia: On Cecil pond \[Game Over\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 24, 2010, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202 "2010-01-24T05:10:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/661 "2010-02-04T19:46:21Z")
ahem, assume 16 Town and 4 Scum…sorry ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/662 "2010-02-04T19:51:54Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > Personally, I think that would be a crummy thing to do. Telling someone that you hate playing with them as you bus them? It seems unlikely. It seems contrary to human nature. Kind of unlikely between Scum buddies, too. Not impossible, of course, but unlikely. > > Could I be wrong? Sure. But it’s a data point. Why not mention it? Are you using bus in the scum-on-scum sense here? Because it seemed like you were saying in your post before that a Scum **fluid** voting a TOWN **peeker** for those reasons would be crummy. Anything’s fair game if you’re _both_ Scum, after all, because you’re inherently going to be lying no matter what you say. Also, you seem to be of the mind that Scum is needling **peeker** toDay in this giant pile-on. How is intentionally needling someone to get a reaction that you can later use against them not crummy? It seems like an easy way to get a pile-on started on **peeker** , because he’s a known hothead. But you’re clearing **fluid** , at least for the time being, because it would be “crummy” for him to do that to **peeker**. The point I’m trying to make is that the behavior that you’re using to put a check in the Town column next to **fluid** is a null tell at best, and very easily opportunistic Scum behavior. > [@](#): > > Now, I have a question for you. Why are you being so oblique? You clearly want to accuse me of being Scum, but unlike **sachertorte,** who has been fairly direct in his implications, you’re dancing around the line. Are you waiting for a sign from on high, or a confession? Go ahead! Just say it! Because I honestly don’t understand where you’re coming from with your gameplay here, and it is really throwing me off. So I’m asking you questions to try to clarify where you’re coming from. You’re taking forever to vote and then rushing the vote when you finally do it. You’re serving up answers to your questions with a liberal peppering of snark, which is generally unlike you. And I know this is like banging my head against the proverbial brick wall, but I just can’t see the **story** I’ve played these games with for so long advocating what you’ve been advocating all Day. I’m clearly not the only one who is befuddled by your general behavior so far. I don’t see how what you’re doing is good pro-Town strategy OR good pro-Scum strategy. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/663 "2010-02-04T20:02:39Z")
As determined by a roll of the dice, the Spawn votes for DiggitCamara and Zeriel. Vote total: Spawn 21 peekercpa 8 Scuba\_Ben 5 Freudian Slit 3 Zeriel 2 fluiddruid 1 special ed 1 USCDiver 1 DiggitCamara 1 1: special ed – peeker (353), Spawn (353) 2: ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies – Spawn (193), Scuba\_Ben (549) 3: Drain Bead – Spawn (191), fluiddruid (316) 4: Oredigger77 – Spawn (194), Scuba\_Ben (482) 5: storyteller0910 – Freudian Slit (629), Spawn (629) 6: Meeko – Spawn (182), [del]fluiddruid[/del] (334-386), [del]peeker[/del] (386-507), Scuba\_Ben (507) 7: Mahaloth – Spawn (209), peeker (209) 8: Freudian Slit – Spawn (183-314, 441), peeker (282), [del]sachertorte[/del] (314-441) 9: USCDiver – Spawn (246), peeker (509) 10: Alka Seltzer – Spawn (249-470, 622), [del]DiggitCamara[/del] (419-622), [del]storyteller[/del] (470-622), peeker (622) 11: peekercpa – Spawn (186), [del]story[/del] (186-229), [del]Zeriel[/del] (229-601) 12: Natlaw – Scuba\_Ben (460) 13: Zeriel – Spawn (204-277, 345), peeker (204), [del]sachertorte[/del] (277-345) 14: DiggitCamara – Spawn (285), Freudian (326) 15: amrussell – Spawn (247), [del]Scuba\_Ben[/del] (428-630), USCDiver (630) 16: KellyCriterion – Spawn (374), Scuba\_Ben (529) 17: Scuba\_Ben – Spawn (225) 18: sachertorte – Spawn (202), Freudian (489) 19: fluiddruid – Spawn (296), peeker (296) 20: TexCat – Spawn (198), peeker (488) 21: Rysto – special ed (595), spawn (595) The denizens of the Pond unanimously descended on the lone Spawn, figuring that it was best to stick to a sure thing. There were no surprises as they examined the strewn organelles: **A Spawn is dead** Encouraged by this success, many of them then decided to move on to **peekercpa** , hoping to kill two of the invaders at a single stroke. But this time, the scattered remains showed no such good news: In fact, many denizens recognized the very same cell structure they themselves had. **peekercpa, a Plankton, is dead** There are currently no Spawn in the pond. It is now Winter 1. Strategy discussion should be put on hold at this time. If you have Winter actions to take, communicate them to me. Summer 2 will start this Saturday at 1:00 PM MST. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/664 "2010-02-04T20:04:13Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > Anything’s fair game if you’re _both_ Scum, after all, because you’re inherently going to be lying no matter what you say. First of all, the latter is not true. Scum can and do not-lie when it is beneficial. But more importantly, yeah, if they’re both Scum, anything’s fair game. I just don’t think it’s likely in this case. I mean, did you read **fluid’s** posts? They have a ring of truth - of actual personal frustration - to them that I simply don’t think she faked. If she did, then bravo to her, and I’ve tried to emphasize that I don’t consider her cleared, but I think her feelings sounded genuine and not reflective of two people faking a fight. > [@](#): > > But you’re clearing **fluid** , at least for the time being, because it would be “crummy” for him to do that to **peeker**. It would be crummy for **fluid** to do it in such a personal way: “I don’t like playing with you.” I can’t explain it better than that. I’m not saying Scum couldn’t do it, just that it seems like it would be… tacky. Out of bounds. Like lying about personal stuff to justify an absence. Sure, you could do that. But it’d be tacky. > [@](#): > > You’re taking forever to vote and then rushing the vote when you finally do it. You’re serving up answers to your questions with a liberal peppering of snark, which is generally unlike you. I’m frustrated as hell. The reason it took forever to get to a vote was partially that I kept getting yanked back into an argument that was going nowhere, that I wanted to stop having _because_ it was going nowhere. My actual Scum-hunt-type posts were largely ignored. So yeah, I’m frustrated. > [@](#): > > And I know this is like banging my head against the proverbial brick wall, but I just can’t see the **story** I’ve played these games with for so long advocating what you’ve been advocating all Day. I can’t help you with this. I see the game and the setup differently than you do and I don’t understand why it’s such a problem for everyone. > [@](#): > > I’m clearly not the only one who is befuddled by your general behavior so far. And yet others seem to mostly get where I’m coming from, even when they don’t agree with me. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/665 "2010-02-04T20:05:13Z")
Sorry, Chronos, for the late post. * * * And: \ ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/666 "2010-02-04T20:07:38Z")
Man, I miss night-strategizing already. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/667 "2010-02-04T20:07:55Z")
Sorry, **peeker**. Okay, I call my NEWEST drink Single Celled Reproduction on the Algae. Who wants the first taste? ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/668 "2010-02-04T20:08:05Z")
Not the best start. Sorry Peeker. I’ll take some of that Yeast piss once a bartender gets named. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/669 "2010-02-04T20:12:47Z")
> [@](#): > > Okay, I call my NEWEST drink Single Celled Reproduction on the Algae. Who wants the first taste? Y’know, that doesn’t sound nearly as bad as I was fearing. But as a scientist, I feel obliged to be able to objectively observe the effects of someone drinking it, so I’ll wait for someone else to volunteer. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/670 "2010-02-04T20:14:52Z")
Don’t mind me, I’ll be lying down over here, twitching. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/671 "2010-02-04T20:15:00Z")
Someone remind me about math Tomorrow or Next Summer or whatever. I’m hibernating. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/672 "2010-02-04T20:15:30Z")
What you were fearing? **Chronos** , my good moderator, are you implying you don’t have total and utter faith in me as a Mafia Bartender? ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/673 "2010-02-04T20:19:00Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > Someone remind me about math Tomorrow or Next Summer or whatever. I’m hibernating. Oh, math _twitch_ is on my to do list too _twitch_. You can be sure of that. _twitch_ ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/674 "2010-02-04T20:22:24Z")
Let’s do show and tell! Cool ‘lower’ lifeform news of late off the top of my head: [Diesel-producing fungi](http://www.physorg.com/news144958975.html) Holy crap! Earthquake! [General advancements in bioremediation](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioremediation) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/675 "2010-02-04T20:24:14Z")
> [@](#): > > What you were fearing? Chronos, my good moderator, are you implying you don’t have total and utter faith in me as a Mafia Bartender? I suppose you could say that I have faith in you. In the sense that I know I can always rely upon you to perform consistently in that role. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/676 "2010-02-04T20:27:25Z")
5.4 [http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Quakes/nc71348851.html](http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Quakes/nc71348851.html) ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/677 "2010-02-04T20:32:18Z")
I’ll have some brakish water please, with an umbrella in it. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/678 "2010-02-04T20:33:00Z")
Want a couple alcohol swabs in that, **Alka**? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/679 "2010-02-04T20:37:02Z")
Ouch. Hopefully a better Summer next year(so to speak). Summer 2 starts Satuday. When will it end? ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/680 "2010-02-04T20:40:06Z")
There was also supposed to be a “Sorry to see you go, peek. Don’t stop playing” included, but I got a little kerfuffled with the whole earthquake thing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202.md?page=33) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202.md?page=35)