# Scum mafia:  On Cecil pond \[Game Over\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [January 24, 2010, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202 "2010-01-24T05:10:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/61 "2010-01-25T18:11:55Z")

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> [@sachertorte](#):
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> Interesting setup.  
> I’m kind of busy this month, but I think I will be able to find some time to play.  
> Sign me up if there is still room.

sach is back!

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**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/62 "2010-01-25T18:59:39Z")

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/in This looks like fun.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/63 "2010-01-25T19:17:20Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> At the risk of having my post total ALREADY surpass Chornos’ I can’t let this one slide.

Through 62 posts it’s Chronos 14, Meeko 9. So you’re almost there.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/64 "2010-01-25T19:22:04Z")

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Just need one more, it looks like.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/65 "2010-01-25T21:17:05Z")

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1: special\_ed  
2: ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies  
3: Drain Bead  
4: Oredigger77  
5: storyteller0910  
6: Meeko  
7: Mahaloth  
8: Freudian Slit  
9: USCDiver  
10: Tom Scud  
11: peekercpa  
12: Natlaw  
13: Zeriel  
14: DiggitCamara  
15: amrussell  
16: KellyCriterion  
17: Scuba\_Ben  
18: sachertorte  
19: fluiddruid  
20: TexCat  
21  
(Red Skeezix)

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/66 "2010-01-25T22:24:58Z")

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> [@Scuba\_Ben](#):
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> Through 62 posts it’s Chronos 14, Meeko 9. So you’re almost there.

Although no one made an issue of it in Colorless, I think I handled my post count in Colorless pretty well.

I tried to push that issue, and I tried to not push the “HEY TOWN! INVESTIGATE ME” tell that an Alpha/Godfather would want to employ.

Neither got anywhere though.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/67 "2010-01-25T23:04:42Z")

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So, it looks like we might fill up quicker than I thought, but I won’t be able to start until Thursday afternoon (I have a presentation then I need to prepare for). Opinions: Should we call it Night 0 at that time, then officially start the game with Summer 1 on Saturday (as the OP posits), or should we have an extra-long Summer 1 starting then, or should we change the schedule to start the seasons on different days?

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/68 "2010-01-25T23:07:38Z")

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Will scum be able to talk during Night 0?

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/69 "2010-01-25T23:15:50Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> So, it looks like we might fill up quicker than I thought, but I won’t be able to start until Thursday afternoon (I have a presentation then I need to prepare for). Opinions: Should we call it Night 0 at that time, then officially start the game with Summer 1 on Saturday (as the OP posits), or should we have an extra-long Summer 1 starting then, or should we change the schedule to start the seasons on different days?

extra long summer 1. no sense being half pregnant.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/70 "2010-01-26T00:38:01Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> extra long summer 1. no sense being half pregnant.

This.

And also, speaking at least for myself, if not a majority of the players, I bet we will have a lot more questions to ask, and rule nuance to discover and debate.

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/71 "2010-01-26T00:59:26Z")

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And, in the sentence I have been waiting to type since I started playing Mafia:

**I agree with peeker and Meeko.**

(I would pay cash money to be Scum with the two of you, by the way, partly so you’d both _get off my back_ for one game, and partly because we’d either be really great or game-overed by end of Day Three)

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/72 "2010-01-26T01:09:13Z")

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I also think a long Summer seems the best choice. Personally, scum “dream teams” have been a complete crap shoot for me.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/73 "2010-01-26T01:38:30Z")

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Extra long summer.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/74 "2010-01-26T01:48:08Z")

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What the hell; I haven’t played in forever. /in

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/75 "2010-01-26T02:04:58Z")

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1: special\_ed  
2: ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies  
3: Drain Bead  
4: Oredigger77  
5: storyteller0910  
6: Meeko  
7: Mahaloth  
8: Freudian Slit  
9: USCDiver  
10: Tom Scud  
11: peekercpa  
12: Natlaw  
13: Zeriel  
14: DiggitCamara  
15: amrussell  
16: KellyCriterion  
17: Scuba\_Ben  
18: sachertorte  
19: fluiddruid  
20: TexCat  
21: Rysto  
(Red Skeezix)

The roster is full. I’ll send out PMs late Thursday afternoon, at which time Summer 1 will begin. In my experience, there are usually about two subs needed per game, so if anyone else wants to be put down as an alternate, say so.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/76 "2010-01-26T02:08:19Z")

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Cool, glad to see you in, rysto.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/77 "2010-01-26T04:01:52Z")

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Aw man, this looks great. I am sorry I don’t have enough time to sign up…seems like I would fit right in in a pond-based game! Looks like a great roster of players and I will follow with interest!

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/78 "2010-01-26T13:49:13Z")

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> [@Thing\_Fish](#):
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> Aw man, this looks great. I am sorry I don’t have enough time to sign up…seems like I would fit right in in a pond-based game! Looks like a great roster of players and I will follow with interest!

\*\*  
You don’t have to be koi about it. \*\*

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/79 "2010-01-26T13:56:21Z")

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\*\*dangles shiny lure before **Thing Fish**

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/80 "2010-01-26T14:23:52Z")

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A few more questions.  
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For Spawn, is non voting a 50/50 chance, or given equal weight to any other one person? That is, at the start of the game, is a Non-voting Spawn a 50/50 chance, or a 1:22 chance?

Is there a group that Spawn can not vote for? [including other spawn]

Can Spawn be targeted?

How random is random? (Method, Seeds, etc.)

Will the number of Spawn influence Spawn voting habits?

As more Spawn … spawn, and no player votes for spawn, the odds of spawn hitting other spawn increase, correct? It is not like spawn will at any point favor Pond over Spawn in their individual Votes, correct?

Will the final spawn votes per end of summer be public information? Will each spawn populate, and be identified in a end of summer vote count? Not that it matters, but will spawn votes be in any other vote count, aside from final end of summer?

What happens if there are more Spawn than players?

Is there a separate wincon for Spawn alone?  
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Hey, at least I didn’t make these seperate posts.

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