# Scum mafia: On Cecil pond \[Game Over\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 24, 2010, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202 "2010-01-24T05:10:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 57
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/1121 "2010-02-12T12:58:39Z")
> [@Red\_Skeezix](#): > > Natlaw co-modded that one, and Hoopy Frood had to talk like Yoda the whole time. Started out as fun it did. Annoying it became. Glad it’s over I am. (Of course, I’m referring to the talking like Yoda part. The game itself I thoroughly enjoyed.) > [@](#): > > Giraffe has it’s own set of memes, and certain activities will get you lynched pretty quick there, they have a real strong urge to lynch the loud, so when I play there I try to match speed with everyone else, otherwise they just lynch you. Another reason besides lack of time that I probably won’t play there. I never shutup. (Although, unlike Idlemafia, Giraffe hasn’t been blocked at work yet. And neither has this place, oddly enough. I’m not sure how the proxy service–which was WebSense at one point, and may still be–determines which “game” sites to block.) ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/1122 "2010-02-12T13:28:41Z")
Has anyone ever done a “A Christmas Story” Mafia? Your are Ralphie. You are a Vig, with a 60% chance of putting your eye out. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/1123 "2010-02-12T14:14:03Z")
> [@Red\_Skeezix](#): > > Players and playstyles mostly. The games are much more subdued on Idle, there’s an underlying assumption that everyone is playing at the top of their game, and there’s less new blood so everyone is a lot cagier, but you do get a chance to see some balls out type plays. Plus some odd twists, my first game on idle everyone got to pick their own color role and it was out in the public (I was Roland from the Dark Tower). Natlaw co-modded that one, and Hoopy Frood had to talk like Yoda the whole time. > > Giraffe has it’s own set of memes, and certain activities will get you lynched pretty quick there, they have a real strong urge to lynch the loud, so when I play there I try to match speed with everyone else, otherwise they just lynch you. You know, looking back, I do also notice I slowed down my play by a lot when I started playing on IdleMafia. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/1124 "2010-02-12T15:31:44Z")
Working on a new drink. I call it a Kokomo. What goes in it? I have absolutely no idea. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/1125 "2010-02-12T16:00:38Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Huh. I actually _like_ goulash. Could I get one virgin? People don’t like goulash? It’s delicious, it’s not particularly exciting, but it is tasty. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/1126 "2010-02-12T16:57:32Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Working on a new drink. I call it a Kokomo. What goes in it? I have absolutely no idea. Well, it needs to give you a tropical contact high so how about some of the mucus off of those frogs backs. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/1127 "2010-02-12T17:27:14Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > Well, it needs to give you a tropical contact high so how about some of the mucus off of those frogs backs. Can I use muppet frogs? (Hey, I got the idea from that the Muppets do Kokomo music video I saw a while ago.) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/1128 "2010-02-12T17:56:10Z")
Well, there’s definitely [something psychedelic](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wg_L0wGTyA) about Kermit. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/1129 "2010-02-12T18:14:43Z")
I’m quite happy with my Wild Turkey American Honey. Wouldn’t you need to snort whatever you might scrape off of the back of a muppet? ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/1130 "2010-02-12T18:15:16Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > I’m quite happy with my Wild Turkey American Honey. Wouldn’t you need to snort whatever you might scrape off of the back of a muppet? You say that like it’s a bad thing… ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/1131 "2010-02-12T18:17:20Z")
NETA Oddly, that sounds just about on par with most of those ancient aphrodisiacs… ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/1132 "2010-02-12T18:21:18Z")
[Kokomo?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kokomo,_Indiana) ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/1133 "2010-02-13T17:18:16Z")
Ok, I’m back home after a lengthy travel day. I’ve caught up as much as possible, although I didn’t get to read every post in as much detail as I’d like. Sorry I didn’t get a vote down last Summer. I’ll do better from here on out. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/1134 "2010-02-13T20:03:10Z")
Once again, Summer came upon the Pond, and once again, one of the denizens did not survive the harsh Winter. As the denizens of the Pond gathered around the remains, they saw clearly that **Zeriel, a Plankton, is dead** And once again, the Scum have reproduced: **There is one Spawn in the Pond** Summer 3 has begun, and will end on Thursday at 1:00 MST. Strategy discussion may resume. [del]1: special\_ed[/del] 2: ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 3: Drain Bead 4: Oredigger77 5: storyteller0910 6: Meeko 7: Mahaloth 8: Freudian Slit 9: USCDiver 10: Alka Seltzer [del]11: peekercpa[/del] 12: Natlaw [del]13: Zeriel[/del] 14: DiggitCamara 15: amrussell 16: KellyCriterion 17: Red Skeezix 18: sachertorte [del]19: fluiddruid[/del] 20: TexCat 21: Rysto ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/1135 "2010-02-13T20:24:33Z")
I am not sure what you guys want from me, or really what else I can say. That being said, let me offer this, in the best way I know how. I remain amazed and frustrated at how well this game is being played. I try for cases made on one reason or another, and they all fall flat. Still other people find cases that question things that I never would begin to know to question. I only have two votes, and I intend to keep one of them on Spawn at all times. My votes are my votes, your votes are your votes. I do not see why there is so much agitation on what I want to do with my votes. I believe when I answer posts in rapid succession, I lose my effectiveness. Hopefully the past is behind us. Hopefully we can go forward with the new information gained from Today. Sucks for Z. He seems to be one of the ones that understands me more than the field. **Vote Spawn** ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/1136 "2010-02-13T20:39:30Z")
I’ll **Vote Spawn** as well and say that I really don’t know who else to choose. **Meeko** isn’t coming across as scummy to me despite his tendency to post a lot. So far he’s posted a lot of thoughtful stuff that has been quite valuable, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/1137 "2010-02-13T20:55:27Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > My votes are my votes, your votes are your votes. I do not see why there is so much agitation on what I want to do with my votes. You don’t think looking at votes to find scum is useful? That said, I didn’t get my vote in on time Yesterday - I preferred letting **Story** get possibly killed by a real vigilante, but I didn’t think **fluiddruid** as scum either. So I went post at another game and found the Day over when I came back. Updated bookmarks. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/1138 "2010-02-13T21:11:31Z")
> [@Natlaw](#): > > You don’t think looking at votes to find scum is useful? You would have to be more specific here. It seems like everyone is on me for switching votes, yet I have switched from Peeker and Fluid both, at different times. Certainly it was better for me to switch off of them, than to keep on both of them, right? If someone constantly votes for Town, that should be looked at. I don’t think I fit the mold there\*. Of course, it is all hindsight at that point. I mean to suggest that votes offer meaningful information, once you understand what the information means. I’m not getting anywhere with that, am I? Let me try again. The INFORMATION that one player’s voting record offers is useful for finding scum. I think I’m still DATA at this point. It would be better to all involved if my votes were better. Yes. [[\*Then again, what Mafia mold does Meeko fit?]] ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/1139 "2010-02-13T21:37:04Z")
Avoid one mislynch wagon just to jump on the next one. :smack: **Vote Spawn** My gut is screaming at me to vote for Storyteller right now, but I also fear that we’re in a chain reaction of rolling from mislynch to mislynch because the scum are laying low and letting us pick each other off for things like personal grudges and their ripple effects (ironically, it was the personal aspect of fluid’s vote on peeker that stuck in my craw, leading to my hand in her mislynch) and differences in strategy. Most of any case I could advance on Story at this point could be circumstantial shadow-boxing at best. A) He’s advocated an unpopular position. A null tell on it’s own, but a scum doing so deliberately could potentially extend their lives at key moments by convincing enough people that enough of the heat they are receiving at any given time is just because they’ve advanced an unpopular position. Supporting evidence for this is that he’s basically refused to engage Alka further on the topic of double-lyse, which could be a convenient way of dodging questions. B) Story seemed to get a bit frantic during the late-Summer tie between he and fluid, at a purely metagame level I seem to recall Story having more composure when he is a Townie getting heat, calmly presenting the reasons why the case against him should be re-examined. I’m having a hard time not seeing his play as that of a desperate scum or pfk trying to stay alive. C) The odds… Peeker, Ed, and Fluid were all Pondies and their posts have had a lot of influence as to how the final voting decisions have gone down so far, imho. Sachertorte and Storyteller as well. I’d include myself as well but I don’t know that I’m really influencing anybody. What are the chances that all of those players are all just stubborn Pondies? D) Story still has not addressed what I consider to be the biggest downside to double-lysing and that is potentially splitting the townie vote and giving the scum votes more leverage. E) He spun a pretty slick circumstantial case against fluid, and I readily admit that it underscored a good bit of the shadow-boxing I was doing with her. Sorry to see you go, Z. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/1140 "2010-02-13T21:48:51Z")
**Vote Spawn** I agree with Cometothedakrside about the current state of things. I think the scum are playing wisely and laying low, hoping to have the rest of us pick off townie after townie all along. However, I have no memory of storyteller playing all that differently between scum and townie. Then again, I can’t really remember what games he was in and what he was in those games. However, Meeko is starting toDay with an odd comment, which I see Natlaw also noticed right away. I don’t get what he was talking about with vote re-examination and his votes being his and his alone. I also don’t get what he is talking about in his response to Natlaw calling him out for it. And why would Natlaw have to be more specific about his comment? Meeko has been more clear lately and it almost is feeling like he is being intentionally vague and hard to understand. Very weird…hmmmm. What’s up with that Meeko? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202.md?page=56) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202.md?page=58)