# Scum mafia: On Cecil pond \[Game Over\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 24, 2010, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202 "2010-01-24T05:10:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/121 "2010-01-28T01:38:45Z")
So we get our roles tomorrow evening or during the day? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/122 "2010-01-28T04:17:23Z")
or at 12:01 am ? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/123 "2010-01-28T05:52:25Z")
A little after 4:00 MST, assuming we can find someone to fill that hole in the roster. ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/124 "2010-01-28T11:46:50Z")
Was planning on watching this one, but since you are missing a player. /in ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/125 "2010-01-28T12:24:36Z")
[burns]Excellent[/burns] ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/126 "2010-01-28T12:28:39Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > [burns]Excellent[/burns] [Johnny Cage]Let’s Dance[/Johnny Cage] I still think Mortal Kombat The Motion Picture (The first one) is underrated. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/127 "2010-01-28T13:00:09Z")
There are all kinds of things about the Spawn mechanic we don’t know. **Chronos** could be using them in countless different ways. It’s entirely possible that Spawn fuel certain Scum powers, or even Town powers. We have no idea how the game will develop. The only thing I’ll commit to right now is that we almost surely want to lyse one player and one Spawn in Summer One; everything after that, I think, is not yet clear. ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/128 "2010-01-28T13:16:40Z")
Can we wait until the game starts before we talk strategy please. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/129 "2010-01-28T13:40:35Z")
> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#): > > Can we wait until the game starts before we talk strategy please. And so Alka carries on my legacy, such as it is.😛 ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/130 "2010-01-28T13:42:43Z")
I agree with Alka. I’ve been dying to talk strategy but I hold off because I don’t want to do it until everyone has their roles. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/131 "2010-01-28T13:45:16Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > I agree with Alka. I’ve been dying to talk strategy but I hold off because I don’t want to do it until everyone has their roles. Why not? I mean, I tend to agree with **peeker** (twice!); if we talk about it now, then we can look for changes in people’s approaches after the game starts. ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/132 "2010-01-28T13:58:43Z")
Personally, I consider it to be anti-game (and absurd) to start playing when you don’t know what side you are on. The whole point of mafia (for town) is distinguishing between the players who do and don’t have hidden knowledge and who are playing to an anti-town agenda. As an aside, I also consider the occasionally used technique of playing before reading your role PM to be against the spirit of the game. Please limit any discussion to rule clarifications for the time being. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/133 "2010-01-28T14:09:31Z")
> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#): > > Personally, I consider it to be anti-game (and absurd) to start playing when you don’t know what side you are on. The whole point of mafia (for town) is distinguishing between the players who do and don’t have hidden knowledge and who are playing to an anti-town agenda. As an aside, I also consider the occasionally used technique of playing before reading your role PM to be against the spirit of the game. Please limit any discussion to rule clarifications for the time being. Alka, I can see we’re going to have some problems with this. You’re not moderating the game, and you really don’t get to dictate the behavior of the other players either pre-game or post-game in this way. In the spirit of cooperation and remaining pleasant, I will refrain from strategy discussion until roles have been distributed. But can you please, please, _pretty please_ try to remember that you are not the final word on how we play here (or anywhere)? I mean, with sugar on top? ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/134 "2010-01-28T14:15:47Z")
I know this, which is why I phrased it as a request. I’m stating my position, not trying to dictate. ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/135 "2010-01-28T14:18:31Z")
(You seem to be confusing taking a strong position, and I’m very definite about why I think we shouldn’t talk strategy at this point, with dictating, which I simply can’t do. The only tool I have in this game are my arguments, which people will listen to or ignore as they see fit.) ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/136 "2010-01-28T15:56:28Z")
I’ll look for my role tonight, but please be aware I’ve had a bit of trouble with my internet at home over the last week or so. I’ve been able to access it most of the time, but have had it conking off for awhile sometimes. Anyway, I should be able to confirm and perhaps post something more tonight, but I might not. I will be trying to post more than I did in the last game, as well. ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/137 "2010-01-28T16:09:08Z")
I hope there isn’t a 3rd party whale, or this could be a very short game. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/138 "2010-01-28T16:28:39Z")
I have no problem with strategy discussion before a game starts. We’re just talking about the game in general. This is a unique set-up and worthy of discussion. Why wait until we have our roles? Unlike others though, I won’t look for changes in people’s behavior. I’ll look at the ides presented and look for and Pro-Scum motivations regardless of what they said before. So, even if someone get s a role of Scum, if they argue against a blatantly pro-Town course of action, they’re going to raise my eyebrow. I’m not certain that I understand the rationale behind waiting to discuss things. This group often talks about various mafia strategies outside of actual mafia games. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/139 "2010-01-28T16:54:21Z")
Hope we find our final player today…I really want to get my role and start playing. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/140 "2010-01-28T17:01:45Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Hope we find our final player today…I really want to get my role and start playing. > [@Alka\_Seltzer](#): > > Was planning on watching this one, but since you are missing a player. > > /in :dubious: I can has skimming? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202.md?page=8)