# Scumpoop, take your puny little toy and shove it up your ass

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 26, 2008, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569 "2008-11-26T16:14:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/1 "2008-11-26T16:14:00Z")

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See if that makes you fell more of a man.

In this thread:

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10492874&postcount=218](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10492874&postcount=218)

The Scum drops this gem:

> [@Fucking cops...](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-cops/474087/218):
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> …  
> What really makes this thread special, though, is the number of pants-wetters soiling themselves because Doors had a gun on his person while he was in a bar. Guess what, pants-wetters? Lots of folks, like yours truly, carry guns everywhere. Bars. Malls. Dry cleaners. Restaurants. Everywhere.  
> I carry concealed primarily as a courtesy to pants-wetters like yourselves. It must be a sad, pitiful life to be so irrationally afraid of an inaminate object. 'Cause here’s the crux of the matter: if I wanted somebody dead, it isn’t the gun that makes it possible. It’s whether I want it enough.  
> Don’t fear guns, pants-wetters. Fear people who have a sincere desire to take your life.  
> …

I really think this should not get lost in the morass of that thread.

My position, in short: people who carry guns do so in order to defend themselves from assholes like Scumpup, and are probably embarrassed to be associated with his likes.

I hope the Queen of England invades your house when you are cleaning your guns and cannot use them to defend yourself.

I don’t need your courtesy. You can still carry your gun for whatever reasons you want, but not for a minute think you are doing me or anyone a favor.

(And my apologies to all if, once again, I am pitting an established troll/retard/laughingstock. I am normally out of the loop on these things)

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/2 "2008-11-26T16:20:51Z")

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I think there should be a new internet law. If you imply that someone you disagree with is soiling themselves or–if male–wears female underwear, or in fact if you make any grade 7 taunt against your opponents masculinity, you automatically lose the argument.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/3 "2008-11-26T16:24:33Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> I think there should be a new internet law. If you imply that someone you disagree with is soiling themselves or–if male–wears female underwear, or in fact if you make any grade 7 taunt against your opponents masculinity, you automatically lose the argument.

Gets my vote.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/4 "2008-11-26T16:26:41Z")

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Uh, I thought primarily “pants-wetters” was referring to people who freak out at the sight of a holstered gun, and he carries concealed for the benefit of those people.

On which point I agree with him, frankly–if the sight of a properly holstered gun freaks you out, perhaps you need to take a deep breath occasionally.

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/5 "2008-11-26T16:29:33Z")

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So THATS why society frowns on people mating with monkeys…

What got me was the line about it being such a sad and pitiful life to be afraid of guns. Well, sad and pitiful about sums up anybody that feels the need to “_carry guns everywhere. Bars. Malls. Dry cleaners. Restaurants. Everywhere_.”

What a sad, pitiful little monkey spawn.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/6 "2008-11-26T16:31:29Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> Uh, I thought primarily “pants-wetters” was referring to people who freak out at the sight of a holstered gun, and he carries concealed for the benefit of those people.
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> On which point I agree with him, frankly–if the sight of a properly holstered gun freaks you out, perhaps you need to take a deep breath occasionally.

How does the phrase “pants wetters” help him make his point?

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/7 "2008-11-26T16:33:57Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> I think there should be a new internet law. If you imply that someone you disagree with is soiling themselves or–if male–wears female underwear, or in fact if you make any grade 7 taunt against your opponents masculinity, you automatically lose the argument.

So, the OP would lose, too, by referring to his target as **scumpoop?**

People who carry do so in part to defend themselves from thieves and murderers, but mostly because they can. Unless and until we start seeing lots of stories in the news that start out like **Doors’s** post but end up with a taster-wielding moron dead on the floor, I’m perfectly okay with people carrying. And even then, if all they do is weed out morons like the guy with the taser, I’m still pretty okay with it.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/8 "2008-11-26T16:36:37Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> So, the OP would lose, too, by referring to his target as **scumpoop?**

Yep, they both lose. I suppose this means that everyone will carry guns nowhere now. Or maybe no one will carry them everywhere…ok now I’m confused.

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**Author:** ![Elvis\_Chimney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/50afbb/32.png) [@Elvis\_Chimney](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elvis_Chimney)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/9 "2008-11-26T16:37:18Z")

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I think this and posts like it serve a purpose in that they provide an example to other would-be Internet Tough Guys of just how ridiculous they can sound.

Sadly, in my experience the standard ITG has such a low level of self-awareness that the lesson is lost, but it helps that it’s out there at least.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/10 "2008-11-26T16:41:05Z")

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I find it extremely amusing that the guy who’s afraid enough of The Big Scary World to carry a gun everywhere he goes is referring to _other_ people as pant-wetters.

[QUOTE=Zeriel]  
On which point I agree with him, frankly–if the sight of a properly holstered gun freaks you out, perhaps you need to take a deep breath occasionally.  
[/QUOTE]

The sight of a properly holstered gun on the hip of some dude in the mall doesn’t bother me at all. The sight of a gun stored in _any_ way would bother me in a bar. I mean, I’m not afraid of cars, but I’m sure as hell afraid of a drunk guy in a car.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/11 "2008-11-26T16:48:57Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> So, the OP would lose, too, by referring to his target as **scumpoop?**

Not by as much.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/12 "2008-11-26T16:58:22Z")

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Apparently carry has become the new battle line of the gun/antigun debate: if you carry, you’re an arrogant in-your-face cowboy who’s making the trouble to begin with. If you object to carry, you’re a hysterical gunphobe who demands that the world respect your neurotic fears.

This simply isn’t debatable; it comes down to what axioms form your worldview, which no argument will change.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/13 "2008-11-26T17:14:22Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> I think there should be a new internet law. If you imply that someone you disagree with is soiling themselves or–if male–wears female underwear, or in fact if you make any grade 7 taunt against your opponents masculinity, you automatically lose the argument.

I heartily endorse this product and/or service.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/14 "2008-11-26T17:16:46Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> Apparently carry has become the new battle line of the gun/antigun debate: if you carry, you’re an arrogant in-your-face cowboy who’s making the trouble to begin with. If you object to carry, you’re a hysterical gunphobe who demands that the world respect your neurotic fears.
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> This simply isn’t debatable; it comes down to what axioms form your worldview, which no argument will change.

I wouldn’t say it that way, but in a way I agree with you. For me I think a lot of it is that I just don’t comprehend why people would need to carry a weapon in most situations.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/15 "2008-11-26T17:24:10Z")

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Wow…an insult based on my user name. Color me nuked.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/16 "2008-11-26T17:33:29Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> So, the OP would lose, too, by referring to his target as **scumpoop?**

No, he’s covered by both the “Username Mockery” and “Fecal Reference” exception clauses, which (judiciously applied) have carried me over the dialectical finish line on more than one occasion.

Officiously,  
**Urinal Turdnip**

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/17 "2008-11-26T17:44:51Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> Apparently carry has become the new battle line of the gun/antigun debate: if you carry, you’re an arrogant in-your-face cowboy who’s making the trouble to begin with. If you object to carry, you’re a hysterical gunphobe who demands that the world respect your neurotic fears.
> 
> This simply isn’t debatable; it comes down to what axioms form your worldview, which no argument will change.

I don’t think this is a carry vs. no carry. This is more carry vs. nutjob thinking that carry makes him a man.

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/18 "2008-11-26T17:46:06Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> Wow…an insult based on my user name. Color me nuked.

One hour and ten minutes and you already solved the first word of the subject line. Good boy. Have a cookie and continue reading. It might do you some good.

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/19 "2008-11-26T17:48:06Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> So, the OP would lose, too, by referring to his target as **scumpoop?**

Not technically, no. I am not referring to what’s on his underwear but to the totality of his being. Addressing the general turdiness of a person is still acceptable.

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**Author:** ![Acid\_Lamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Acid\_Lamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acid_Lamp)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/20 "2008-11-26T17:48:25Z")

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Make that **Urinal turdrip**.

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