# Scumpoop, take your puny little toy and shove it up your ass **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 26, 2008, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569 "2008-11-26T16:14:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/61 "2008-11-26T21:26:41Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Okay, now we’re moving in the right direction. Could we go with something a little less effete? Python’s good, but perhaps something from the Tarentino oeuvre? Does Scumpup look like a bitch? DOES HE LOOK LIKE A BITCH?? Then why you tryin’ to fuck him like a bitch? ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/62 "2008-11-26T21:40:21Z")
> [@Cluricaun](#): > > Anything less than .577 Tyrannosaur is totally inadequite for family get togethers. Something tells me Aunt Linda is about to find out what Cousin Albert (in the lower right corner) really thinks of her dry ass turkey. [http://lve.scola.ac-paris.fr/anglais/thanksgiving/food.htm](http://lve.scola.ac-paris.fr/anglais/thanksgiving/food.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/63 "2008-11-26T22:41:00Z")
> [@5-4-Fighting](#): > > I have a carry permit too, so don’t let me find you’ve been creepin’ 'round my backstairs.\* > > **5-4-Felching** > > - You know what I mean. You do got one mighty fine set of backstairs, boy. [/leers] ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/64 "2008-11-26T23:50:49Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > Anecdotally, the guys I know who would carry to a bar are the designated driver types who have 0-1 beers while they’re there. I’m just as wary of drunks with guns as with cars, but I’m just as mostly unconcerned about guys who’ve had less than a beer an hour and cars/guns. If everyone’s anecdotal experience matched yours, I’d be fine with that, but I doubt everyone’s does. In general, I assume people in bars may not be playing with a full deck of cards. > [@Zeriel](#): > > It’s heated because both sides are scared of what they rightly think is something to be scared of–guns are dangerous, but having them available is in the constitution for a defendably good reason. I don’t think the British are coming back. 😃 Still, it is in the Constitution and I will defend your right to carry as long as it stays there. Just don’t expect me to like it. [QUOTE=Cluricaun] Which is all well and good until something like Virginia Tech happens again and people start wondering how things would have turned out if there were someone who did happen to be carrying and how many lives could have been saved if there had only been, you know, a responsible gun owner around. [/QUOTE] Every time somebody goes off the deep end and shoots a bunch of people before getting capped by the cops, you always see the neighbors on TV going, “well, he seemed like such a nice guy. Quiet. Kept to himself. Always mowed the lawn on Saturdays.” Shooter X might _be_ a responsible gun owner right up until the day he kills six, you know. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/65 "2008-11-27T00:03:03Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > . . . . you always see the neighbors on TV going, “well, he seemed like such a nice guy. Quiet. Kept to himself. Always mowed the lawn on Saturdays.” > > Shooter X might _be_ a responsible gun owner right up until the day he kills six, you know. Even then, he might still think he’s being a responsible mower. You know, mow the lawn on Saturday, mow down six on Sunday. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/66 "2008-11-27T01:49:02Z")
Nothing personal against Scumpup, but the name/sound really works for it. To Scumpup a thread Scumpupping a thread Definition: To state or imply that the other person is such a coward about whatever issue is being discussed or in their fear of that poster that they are relieving themselves in their pants. ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/67 "2008-11-27T01:50:43Z")
> [@ShotgunZen](#): > > …panty wetters… You see, now the game changes. You can call me a panty wetter any day. > [@5-4-Fighting](#): > > - You know what I mean. There seems to be a lot of that on your posts lately. ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/68 "2008-11-27T01:54:56Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > This may be the best pit thread this week. Why, thank you. That means a lot to me. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_fight_the_hypothetical)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/69 "2008-11-27T02:20:55Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > And the gun’s in the cradle and a silver spoon, > Little boy Doors shot a hole in the moon? Laughed out loud. ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/70 "2008-11-27T05:41:49Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > On the other hand, the thread linked was already pretty heated and he wasn’t really lowering the tone of discourse more than it already was. Heated? Okay, I wasn’t reading it that way, but ymmv. At least not until Scumpup came in and started squirting testosterone all over the place. It should also have been obvious from what I posted that I’m not anti-gun (anyone paying attention to my username? Anyone?). I am anti-stupid, though. Bringing a gun into a bar is asking for trouble. What happens in bars? People drink and get drunk. Drunk people are irrational. Irrational people get into fights. Ergo, a punch up now turns into the wild west with guys like Scumpup thinking they are Wyatt Earp and are going to save the day, or people like AD reacting inappropriately until they actually know what is going on. [QUOTE=Cluricaun] Which is all well and good until something like Virginia Tech happens again and people start wondering how things would have turned out if there were someone who did happen to be carrying and how many lives could have been saved if there had only been, you know, a responsible gun owner around. [/QUOTE] How do you know there weren’t and that they weren’t hiding under the tables ‘wetting their pants’ along with the people who didn’t have guns? Having a hammer doesn’t mean you know how to drive a nail. Nor does having a gun make you capable of using it in a dire situation. It does give you more options in how you react. It also increases the possibility of escalating a non-dire situation into one. You should be level headed enough to understand the issues and not react in a manner that endangers others and increases the likely hood of a misunderstanding of your intent. ---
**Author:** ![Jaglavak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85f322/32.png) [@Jaglavak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaglavak)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/71 "2008-11-27T06:20:51Z")
Question: In this thread, [Scumpup snarks Vunderbob](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=490458) for even implying that he might occasionally carry a weapon. But now we find out that Scumboy carries all the time himself? So, Scum, what was your major malfunction over there in the first place? Now, I know I’m supposed to pile on in the Pit, but if you were just having a bad day you can say so and I’ll leave it alone. We don’t actually have to be enemies unless that’s how you want it. ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/72 "2008-11-27T10:49:29Z")
> [@Uzi](#): > > It should also have been obvious from what I posted that I’m not anti-gun … I am anti-stupid… This is it. Many normal people carry guns, concealed or not. They just don’t make an issue of it. I bet most of them are embarrassed to have Scumpup associated with them. It is just like trying to make a rational argument against religion and have Der Thris show up to “support” you. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/73 "2008-11-27T13:11:16Z")
> [@](#): > > take your puny little toy and shove it up your ass Didn’t we just do this in the “Hey Dio” thread? ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/74 "2008-11-27T13:49:28Z")
> [@Jaglavak](#): > > Question: In this thread, [Scumpup snarks Vunderbob](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=490458) for even implying that he might occasionally carry a weapon. But now we find out that Scumboy carries all the time himself? > > So, Scum, what was your major malfunction over there in the first place? Now, I know I’m supposed to pile on in the Pit, but if you were just having a bad day you can say so and I’ll leave it alone. We don’t actually have to be enemies unless that’s how you want it. I believe in carrying a weapon for self defense, not so you can act like a jerk. In that thread, I believed he acted like a jerk. His use of the term “aces in the hole” led me to believe he had the balls to do so because he was armed. In practice, (outside of genuine self defense) having a gun shouldn’t lead to you doing or saying anything differently than if you didn’t have it. Somewhere in one of these threads I mentioned that in 25 years I have never drawn a gun in anger. That includes arguments and people who were acting like obnoxious fools. If anything, carrying the gun leads me to let a lot of stuff slide, since by carrying a lethal weapon a higher level of judgement and behavior is necessary. Any other questions? ---
**Author:** ![Petrobey\_Mavromihalis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@Petrobey\_Mavromihalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Petrobey_Mavromihalis)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/75 "2008-11-27T13:55:14Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > If anything, carrying the gun leads me to let a lot of stuff slide, since by carrying a lethal weapon a higher level of judgement and behavior is necessary. Got to agree with this. Ever since I started carrying around my RPG I’ve attained Zen-like levels of calm and wisdom. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/76 "2008-11-27T15:05:51Z")
> [@Sapo](#): > > This is it. Many normal people carry guns, concealed or not. They just don’t make an issue of it. I bet most of them are embarrassed to have Scumpup associated with them. It is just like trying to make a rational argument against religion and have Der Thris show up to “support” you. Okay, Slappy, how about you go ahead and give some specific examples of stuff I’ve posted here that give you reason to believe I am such an awful threat to have running loose with a gun? No hypotheticals, please. All you have to judge me by is stuff that I’ve actually posted, so confine yourself to that body of “evidence.” I’m sure my calling antis “pants-wetters” is going to figure into this, but I want to see exactly how. ---
**Author:** ![WILLASS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/54ee81/32.png) [@WILLASS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WILLASS)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/77 "2008-11-27T17:05:07Z")
As someone from a country where it’s illegal to own a handgun at all (based on the actions of one man _legally_ allowed to own a gun collection: google ‘Dunblane Massacre’ for further information) I do find it weird that people can argue their right to carry a weapon for self defence although I except that is probably due to the fact that the very idea is ludicrous over here, I do want to point out something I saw on ‘Worlds Craziest Mall Shoot-Outs’ or some such bullshit I was watching to pass the time. There was footage of a couple of ‘hoods walking into a big store and sticking up customers for their wallets, one of their victims called her husband who was waiting in the car (with a gun, legally) who came in just as they were leaving, upon realising they were the culprits he ran out into the lobby (still on camera) and unloaded about 8 shoots into the night hitting one of the crims’ who was later apprehended - Cops hailed him as a hero. The entire time I was watching this I was thinking ‘holy shit, what would happen if he winged or killed an innocent bystander’? I have been deer hunting and you need to make sure that you have hill cover before taking a shot so as to ensure the bullet won’t travel down into a valley and take out a rambler yet it seems that in certain places in the U.S you will actually get props from the police for firing almost blindly into a shopping mall car park. It gives new meaning to the word ‘reckless’ in my opinion. Now, I await the inevitable ‘well he is one of the bad eggs who shouldn’t be allowed to carry’ etc. etc. but I still believe that however ‘level headed’ you are you are still going to pretty angry if some guy just robbed your wife. Now the way I see it is this, what is worse to lose your wallet and the chance of exacting retribution on the robber or to blow the head off an innocent bystander? I know he didn’t kill anyone in this case but shit, it’s not exactley unlikely to happen is it? Markedly more so than the chances of hitting a rambler in the woods in my opinion. YMMV obviousley. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/78 "2008-11-27T17:45:35Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > I believe in carrying a weapon for self defense, not so you can act like a jerk. In that thread, I believed he acted like a jerk. His use of the term “aces in the hole” led me to believe he had the balls to do so because he was armed. > In practice, (outside of genuine self defense) having a gun shouldn’t lead to you doing or saying anything differently than if you didn’t have it. Somewhere in one of these threads I mentioned that in 25 years I have never drawn a gun in anger. That includes arguments and people who were acting like obnoxious fools. If anything, carrying the gun leads me to let a lot of stuff slide, since by carrying a lethal weapon a higher level of judgement and behavior is necessary. > Any other questions? You seem to be implying that at some point, if pushed far enough, you _will_ draw your gun and shoot someone over an argument. ---
**Author:** ![WILLASS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/54ee81/32.png) [@WILLASS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WILLASS)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/79 "2008-11-27T17:58:03Z")
Although I really don’t agree with carrying a weapon for ANY reason I don’t see where Scumpup is implying that. There is a good chance that I am just being dense though… ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569/80 "2008-11-27T18:54:03Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I don’t think the British are coming back. 😃 Obviously; but it’s the principle of the thing. Do we really want that only an elite warrior caste, imposing the will of the government on the populace, should be privileged to possess weapons? And please don’t tell me that that’s ok because our “tradition of democracy” means that they would never ever misuse that privilege; I can’t count how many threads we’ve had about police misconduct. And those are just lightly armed civilian constabularies; what happens when actual troops decide they’re going to call the shots, as has happened from ancient Rome to modern Thailand? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scumpoop-take-your-puny-little-toy-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/474569.md?page=5)