# SDMB 2012 NFL Mock Draft!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 19, 2012, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-2012-nfl-mock-draft/619337 "2012-04-19T23:36:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-2012-nfl-mock-draft/619337/181 "2012-04-23T23:39:04Z")
Where’s the Beef? ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-2012-nfl-mock-draft/619337/182 "2012-04-23T23:42:08Z")
I sent him a PM. Presumably he’s tied up at work, with luck he’ll be in soon and we can finish out the round this evening. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-2012-nfl-mock-draft/619337/183 "2012-04-24T00:53:07Z")
Sorry - usually I get at least 2-3 pauses a day at work where I can get a little personal time in, but I was absolutely swamped from 9 to 5 today. That’s rare, or I’d have sent a pre-selected list. I traded the pick to Omni for the Bears 2nd and 4th. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-2012-nfl-mock-draft/619337/184 "2012-04-24T00:58:51Z")
If Omn isn’t back within an hour or so, I’ll make the pick (sans trade) to keep things moving. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-2012-nfl-mock-draft/619337/185 "2012-04-24T01:02:13Z")
The Bears are trading up to get what looks to be the best pass rusher left on the board. A guy with a first round grade who should provide the speed and explosiveness on the edge that Idonije lacks. **44. Chicago Bears Andre Branch DE, Clemson** ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-2012-nfl-mock-draft/619337/186 "2012-04-24T02:33:51Z")
Can we trade future draft picks in this mock? ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-2012-nfl-mock-draft/619337/187 "2012-04-24T02:34:44Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > Can we trade future draft picks in this mock? Yup, be realistic though. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-2012-nfl-mock-draft/619337/188 "2012-04-24T02:37:53Z")
**45. Dallas Cowboys Jerel Worthy DT, Michigan State** **kidchameleon** sent me this proxy pick before I made the trade with **Beef**. He said he’d be around to offer his rationale at some point, hopefully that’ll be forthcoming. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-2012-nfl-mock-draft/619337/189 "2012-04-24T02:52:58Z")
**First Round** **1. Indianapolis Colts - garygnu** Andrew Luck QB, Stanford **2. Washington Redskins - DCnDC** Robert Griffin III QB, Baylor **3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Oakminster** _(from Minnesota)_ [sup]1[/sup] Trent Richardson RB, Alabama **4. Cleveland Browns - SenorBeef** Morris Claiborne CB, LSU **5. Minnesota Vikings - Hamlet** _(from Tampa Bay)_ [sup]1[/sup] Matt Kalil OT, USC **6. St. Louis Rams - RetroVertigo** Justin Blackmon WR, Oklahoma State **7. Jacksonville Jaguars - furt** Michael Floyd WR, Notre Dame **8. Miami Dolphins - Omniscient** Melvin Ingram OLB, South Carolina **9. Carolina Panthers - Jules Andre** Fletcher Cox DT, Mississippi St. **10. Buffalo Bills - Omniscient** Riley Reiff OT, Iowa **11. Kansas City Chiefs - SenorBeef** Dontari Poe DT, Memphis **12. Seattle Seahawks - Hamlet** Quinton Coples DE, North Carolina **13. Arizona Cardinals - RetroVertigo** Kendall Wright WR, Baylor **14. Dallas Cowboys - kidchameleon** Mark Barron S, Alabama **15. Philadelphia Eagles - Jules Andre** Luke Kuechly LB, Boston College **16. New York Jets - Gray Ghost** Bobby Massie OT, Ole Miss **17. Cincinnati Bengals - It’s Not Rocket Surgery!** David DeCastro, G, Stanford **18. San Diego Chargers - TheBoltEater** Nick Perry DE/OLB, USC **19. Chicago Bears** - **Omniscient** Stephon Gilmore CB, South Carolina **20. Miami Dolphins - Omniscient** _(from Tennessee)_ [sup]2[/sup] Ryan Tannehill QB, Texas A&M **21. Cincinnati Bengals - It’s Not Rocket Surgery!** Dre Kirkpatrick CB, Alabama **22. Cleveland Browns - SenorBeef** Cordy Glenn G/T, Georgia **23. Detroit Lions - Gangster Octopus** Jonathan Martin, OT Stanford **24. Pittsburgh Steelers - furt** Michael Brockers DT, LSU **25. Denver Broncos - TheBoltEater** Devon Still DT, Penn State **26. Houston Texans - Gray Ghost** Stephen Hill WR, Georgia Tech **27. New England Patriots - ShadowFacts** Whitney Mercilus DE/OLB, Illinois **28. Green Bay Packers - Gangster Octopus** Courtney Upshaw, DE, Alabama **29. Baltimore Ravens - DCnDC** Dont’a Hightower ILB, Alabama **30. San Francisco 49ers - garygnu** Coby Fleener, TE, Stanford **31. New England Patriots - ShadowFacts** Shea McCLellin OLB/DE Boise St. **32. New York Giants - It’s Not Rocket Surgery!** Mike Adams T, Ohio State **Second Round** **33. St. Louis Rams - RetroVertigo** Amini Silatolu, OT, Midwestern State **34. Indianapolis Colts - garygnu** Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin **35. Minnesota Vikings - Hamlet** Janoris Jenkins, CB/Pothead, North Alabama **36. Minnesota Vikings - Hamlet** _(from Tampa Bay)_ [sup]1[/sup] Harrison Smith, S, Notre Dame **37. Cleveland Browns - SenorBeef** Doug Martin, RB, Boise State **38. Jacksonville Jaguars - furt** Chandler Jones, DE, Illinois **39. St. Louis Rams - RetroVertigo** David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech **40. Carolina Panthers - Jules Andre** Levonte David, OLB, Nebraska **41. Buffalo Bills - Omniscient** A.J. Jenkins, WR, Illinois **42. Tennessee Titans - Oakminster** _(from Miami)_ [sup]2[/sup] Reuben Randle, WR, LSU **43. Seattle Seahawks - Hamlet** Kendall Reyes, DT, University of Connecticut **44. Chicago Bears** - **Omniscient** _(from Kansas City)_ [sup]3[/sup] Andre Branch, DE, Clemson **45. Dallas Cowboys - kidchameleon** Jerel Worthy, DT, Michigan State **46. Philadelphia Eagles - Jules Andre** **47. New York Jets - Gray Ghost** **48. New England Patriots - ShadowFacts** **49. San Diego Chargers - TheBoltEater** **50. Kansas City Chiefs - SenorBeef** _(from Chicago)_ [sup]3[/sup] **51. Philadelphia Eagles - Jules Andre** **52. Tennessee Titans - Oakminster** **53. Cincinnati Bengals - It’s Not Rocket Surgery!** **54. Detroit Lions - Gangster Octopus** **55. Atlanta Falcons - garygnu** **56. Pittsburgh Steelers - furt** **57. Denver Broncos - TheBoltEater** **58. Houston Texans - Gray Ghost** **59. Green Bay Packers - Gangster Octopus** **60. Baltimore Ravens - DCnDC** **61. San Francisco 49ers - garygnu** **62. New England Patriots - ShadowFacts** **63. New York Giants - It’s Not Rocket Surgery!** Additional Team Assignments **89. New Orleans Saints - Oakminster** **95. Oakland Raiders - garygnu** [sup]1[/sup] Tampa trades their 2012 1st and 2nd round picks to Minnesota, in exchange for the Vikings 2012 1st and 6th round picks. [sup]2[/sup] Tennessee trades their 2012 1st round pick to Miami, in exchange for the Dolphins 2012 2nd round pick and their 2013 1st round pick. [sup]3[/sup] Chicago trades their 2012 2nd round and 4th round picks to Kansas City, in exchange for the Chiefs 2012 2nd round pick. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-2012-nfl-mock-draft/619337/190 "2012-04-24T02:56:18Z")
Forthcoming indeed! The Cowboys’ problem last year wasn’t offense. Certainly the offense isn’t perfect. The line was young and shakey at times. Key skill players were injured or out of shape. They put up just over 23 points a game, good enough for a middle of the road. A quick look at their points allowed actually has them ranked slightly higher in the league (13th vs. 14th), but they were repeatedly killed by the inability to shut down teams on long drives, especially toward the end of games, was particularly problematic, especially in the three losses to the Superbowl participants. Free agency has filled most of the ‘holes’ that the team had from free agency, but some of these signings just brought in a servicable player, such as inside linebacker Dan Conner (in case Bruce Carter isn’t ready) and safety Brodney Pool (beacuse Danny McCray isn’t ready now and is a long shot to ever be even an average starter). Mark Barron is the consensus best safety in the draft, capable of coverage and run support. A truly great safety is something the Cowboys have been lacking since Darren Woodson retired. Roy Williams briefly starred, but his deficiencies in coverage were quickly discovered and exploited. Gerald Sensebaugh is servicable at either spot and hopes that free agency prize Brandon Carr can join the existing corners to upgrade the secondary. Even if the corners shine, there is a lack of personality and confidence. Barron will give them that, forcing opposing quarterbacks to hold the ball longer and preventing running backs from ripping off big plays. An upgraded secondary can only go so far. Too many plays saw opposing quarterbacks holding the ball for four or five seconds. Short yardage defense was generally a failure and the inability of the line to hold their ground was a big part of that. If Demarcus Ware or Jay Ratliff wasn’t getting pressure, generally no one was. A lot of Dallas fans have pointed the blame at Anthony Spencer. Lining up across from Demarcus Ware should make getting sacks a lot easier. But Ware was moved around a lot to take advantage of weak spots in the protecting. In addition, someone had to drop back into coverage if it wasn’t a blitz, so frequently that was Spencer, who did a good job against the run. Jerel Worthy will provide some more power up front, where the ends outside of occasional bursts from Jason Hatcher, didn’t put pressure on the other team often enough. A bit raw, a part of the defensive line rotation is the perfect place to learn. At 310 pounds, he might even be able to put on enough muscle to get a look at nose tackle, where Ratliff is looking for a replacement before he breaks down under constant double teams. Having the late-first round Worthy fall into the middle second is a pick I couldn’t pass up, despite thinking about falling back to get an extra fourth. There is some concern about his attitude and effort, but falling this far should motivate him, both emotionally and economically. The draft is anything but a sure thing. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-2012-nfl-mock-draft/619337/191 "2012-04-24T02:58:02Z")
Not that it looks like we’ll get through round 3 at this point, but Jacksonville traded their 4 to Tampa for LeGarette Blount. ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-2012-nfl-mock-draft/619337/192 "2012-04-24T03:04:22Z")
Checking in to say i’m here. I know i’m on the clock, but still at work. I’ll be able to make a pick within the hour, just takes time to pull up my resources. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-2012-nfl-mock-draft/619337/193 "2012-04-24T03:06:22Z")
We can probably get through round 3 if we don’t get too many delays. Does anyone do draft parties anymore, given the awkward Thursday night start? I usually set up my own little war room in my own living room… for no reason at all. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-2012-nfl-mock-draft/619337/194 "2012-04-24T03:12:08Z")
> [@Jules\_Andre](#): > > Checking in to say i’m here. I know i’m on the clock, but still at work. I’ll be able to make a pick within the hour, just takes time to pull up my resources. I can recommend a good punter… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-2012-nfl-mock-draft/619337/195 "2012-04-24T04:00:06Z")
**46. Philadelphia Eagles Zach Brown LB, North Carolina** So far, you could have drawn my picks from any of the Eagles fan blogs or mocks. But the Eagles are in a good spot here. Strangely, for an 8-8 team and probably the most disappointing team in 2011, they have few holes. So they’ll go BPA here, even if taking a LB, let alone two, is almost impossible. More thoughts later! ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-2012-nfl-mock-draft/619337/196 "2012-04-24T04:16:25Z")
Real busy tonight, so it’ll just be the pick for right now. (Texans too, if we make it that far tonight.) 1. New York Jets Ronnell Lewis OLB/DE, Oklahoma ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-2012-nfl-mock-draft/619337/197 "2012-04-24T05:08:22Z")
The Titans trade the 52nd overall pick to the Eagles, in exchange for Asante Samuel, and the Eagles’ 3rd and 5th round picks this year. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-2012-nfl-mock-draft/619337/198 "2012-04-24T07:24:02Z")
I sent a trade offer as the 49ers GM to the Patriots ( **Jules** ). (I also managed to send the same offer to the Eagles, who had already made their pick. And yes, I’m apparently not paying close enough attention. :D) ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-2012-nfl-mock-draft/619337/199 "2012-04-24T10:14:14Z")
Just got home, and there’s a lot going on! **On the Zach Brown pick:** Firstly, there’s no chance this ends up happening in the real draft. The Eagles, and specifically Andy Reid, hate drafting LBs early. I think by now most people know that Andy Reid has never drafted a LB in the first round. But here’s the rundown of every LB the Eagles have drafted in the first three rounds under Reid (round in parentheses). Try not to get too excited. 1999 Barry Gardner (2), 2001 Quinton Caver (2), 2005 Matt McCoy (2), 2007 Stewart Bradley (3), and 2008 Bryan Smith (3). Only one ever started a full season (Stewart), and they all combine for 57 starts for Philly. Awful. Worse than awful. The defensive line is fine (with Trent Cole, Cullen Jenkins, and Jason Babin, I’d say it’s the best in the NFL). The secondary stunk, but it was as much scheme as it was the players. The gaping hole was in the linebacker group. With Ryans coming in, Kuechly taken in round one, and now Brown, they have an entirely new LB group to work with. And if Ryans isn’t healthy, Kuechly can slide over and man the middle (hopefully better than Casey Matthews did last season). But at least there’s promise there. **On the trade:** Samuel is gone. If the Eagles don’t get something for him after openly putting him on the market for two seasons in a row, he could damage the locker room and undermine the season. His value is as low as you could imagine because it appears as if the Eagles have no leverage. But he’s still a top 3 corner in the league and the Titans could really use a replacement for Cortland Finnegan. I think I got the best possible deal I could have gotten, but I’d have also taken the trade in the reverse, too. I like the flexibility I have with a total of three picks in the second round, though the strategy and timing is a bit silly. Because the Eagles don’t have a lot of holes on their starting units, they really shouldn’t be a buyer in the draft. We’ll see how it plays out. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-2012-nfl-mock-draft/619337/200 "2012-04-24T10:30:52Z")
> [@Jules\_Andre](#): > > **On the Zach Brown pick:** Firstly, there’s no chance this ends up happening in the real draft. I can see it happening more than the commonly-predicted and eminently-sensible Keuchly pick. > [@](#): > > I like the flexibility I have with a total of three picks in the second round, though the strategy and timing is a bit silly. Because the Eagles don’t have a lot of holes on their starting units, they really shouldn’t be a buyer in the draft. We’ll see how it plays out. Dollars to donuts they either trade up to the first round, or trade out to get a #1 next year. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-2012-nfl-mock-draft/619337.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-2012-nfl-mock-draft/619337.md?page=11)