# SDMB All-Pro fantasy football league 2012 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 16, 2012, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-all-pro-fantasy-football-league-2012/628389 "2012-07-16T05:29:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Ol\_Gaffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Ol\_Gaffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ol_Gaffer)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-all-pro-fantasy-football-league-2012/628389/41 "2012-10-31T22:05:30Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > \ > > Anyway, Tazmanian Devils hasn’t been adjusting his roster the last 2 weeks. To be fair, Jordy Nelson was a late scratch, but he had a bunch of empty/bye slots against me last week. I get that you lose interest in a league when you’re out of it, but it’s not fair to the people who are still fighting for playoff spots to quit mid season. The easy wins against absentee owners can cause one team to unfairly ascend to a playoff spot over a team that had to compete against people doing their best to win, and it upsets league balance. It’s unacceptable not to at least make basic roster moves like not subbing out injured/bye players. Please don’t say anything to him… at least not until after I’ve played him in Week 13. There is a good chance I’ll be needing a win for a playoff spot. Haha. ---
**Author:** ![Ol\_Gaffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Ol\_Gaffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ol_Gaffer)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-all-pro-fantasy-football-league-2012/628389/42 "2012-11-05T18:55:49Z")
Dang **SenorBeef** , I was all set to come in here and bust you up for buying into the Jermichael Finley hype but I see you are doing just fine with his measly, and typical, contribution. Enjoy owning that frustration!! In other news… all hail Doug Martin!! ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-all-pro-fantasy-football-league-2012/628389/43 "2012-11-06T00:18:52Z")
I’ve been plugging random tight ends into my starting slot all season, changing them pretty frequently - Finley seemed like the best of a rather bad bunch. ---
**Author:** ![Ol\_Gaffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Ol\_Gaffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ol_Gaffer)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-all-pro-fantasy-football-league-2012/628389/44 "2012-11-14T21:22:27Z")
Apathy is apparently contagious. Omnipotents, No Use For A Name, and Taz are all leaving bye week and injured players in their starting lineups. I know Yahoo was jacked up on Sunday but it wasn’t impossible to set your lineup prior to noon on Sunday. I know its par for the course in most other leagues but it still kind of sucks for the rest of us still playing. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-all-pro-fantasy-football-league-2012/628389/45 "2012-11-14T21:56:39Z")
In any event, we certainly need to change the name of the league. This is (a)pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-all-pro-fantasy-football-league-2012/628389/46 "2012-11-15T03:46:29Z")
Yeah, this league is a dissapointment. I find myself not spending much time on roster management or anything even because the league is too thin with too few starters - too easy to manage. I think we’re going to have to revamp the league significantly next year to keep it interesting. I’m open for suggestions as to what we should do with it. ---
**Author:** ![PlanetCharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c37758/32.png) [@PlanetCharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlanetCharlie)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-all-pro-fantasy-football-league-2012/628389/47 "2012-11-15T04:15:45Z")
Let me join, thats what. I don’t talk quite as much shit as you do, but I’m as competitive as they come. Actually, if anyone ‘gives up,’ is just over it, I’ll gladly take their team and that burden off their hands - if anyone is interested just let me know. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-all-pro-fantasy-football-league-2012/628389/48 "2012-11-17T22:20:52Z")
I’m not giving up, but I tend to do a lot of lineup changes Sunday between 11 and 1, looking for matchup-related steals available in free agency in the last moments. As luck would have it, last week I had to attend a luncheon, so I did everything the night before. ---
**Author:** ![Frosted\_Glass](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frosted_glass/32/3926_2.png) [@Frosted\_Glass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frosted_Glass)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-all-pro-fantasy-football-league-2012/628389/49 "2012-11-18T15:58:46Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Yeah, this league is a dissapointment. I find myself not spending much time on roster management or anything even because the league is too thin with too few starters - too easy to manage. I think we’re going to have to revamp the league significantly next year to keep it interesting. I’m open for suggestions as to what we should do with it. Was this message supposed to be for this league or the Big League? For me, it is completely opposite. There are a good number of starters available, so I have to continually think about matchups. I try not to play around too much because that only leads to trouble but I still have to evaluate my roster. In the Big League, I am basically on auto-pilot unless I have to drop an injured player or fight to pick someone up off the waiver wire. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-all-pro-fantasy-football-league-2012/628389/50 "2012-11-18T16:04:04Z")
No, I meant it for this one - having 2 WR, 1 RB, and 1 W/R slot is a lot shallower than most leagues. I find that you start your studs and rarely have to make a decision. The hard decisions are rarely for your RB1 or WR2 slot - they’re for RB2, Flex, WR3/4, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Frosted\_Glass](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frosted_glass/32/3926_2.png) [@Frosted\_Glass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frosted_Glass)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-all-pro-fantasy-football-league-2012/628389/51 "2012-11-18T17:08:50Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > No, I meant it for this one - having 2 WR, 1 RB, and 1 W/R slot is a lot shallower than most leagues. I find that you start your studs and rarely have to make a decision. The hard decisions are rarely for your RB1 or WR2 slot - they’re for RB2, Flex, WR3/4, etc. Okay, that makes a lot more sense. I know we are not even at playoffs, so this is a super early discussion, but adding a starting RB slot would change a lot of that. Just something to put on the board for next year. In the meantime, I need to keep myself above .500 ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-all-pro-fantasy-football-league-2012/628389/52 "2012-11-18T19:21:27Z")
> [@Frosted\_Glass](#): > > Okay, that makes a lot more sense. I know we are not even at playoffs, so this is a super early discussion, but adding a starting RB slot would change a lot of that. Just something to put on the board for next year. > > In the meantime, I need to keep myself above .500 I’d like to get within shouting distance of .500 ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-all-pro-fantasy-football-league-2012/628389/53 "2012-11-19T15:49:30Z")
This is the week where Green-Ellis (18.30) beat out both Ray Rice (10.80) and LeShoure (14.70). This week, G. Graham (24.20) beat out O. Daniels (8.70). Yet, even had I chosen optimally, there was no way in hell I would even have come close to beating No Use For A Name’s 174.55, led by Matt Schaub (42.55) and Andre Johnson (42.30). Life just ain’t fair. I’m barely better than a team on autopilot, and I’m trying. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2012, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-all-pro-fantasy-football-league-2012/628389/54 "2012-11-20T16:52:19Z")
Want to know something crazy? On draft day, Tazmanian devils was projected to crush this league - almost 1500 points, 13-0 record, 5 wins higher than the next guy. He’s currently 1-10 with 857 points, projected to be 2-11 with 1072. Don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like it. ---
**Author:** ![Ol\_Gaffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Ol\_Gaffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ol_Gaffer)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2012, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-all-pro-fantasy-football-league-2012/628389/55 "2012-11-20T21:50:20Z")
Wow. That’s odd. He’s had some trouble with injuries (MJD, Jordy Nelson) and Gates has been more 2011 than 2008… again. But still, that strikes me as pretty odd. It didn’t seem like his draft was that overpowering. Oh well, I guess that’s why they play… Oops, shit. Can’t believe I almost wrote that. I agree that another starting slot would increase competition a little, especially during the bye weeks. Might put a little impetus behind actually trading as well, which really seems to be a low point with this league. But, as **SenorBeef** point out, with such shallow lineups, you really can start a decent team every week with minimal waiver pickups and no trades. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2012, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-all-pro-fantasy-football-league-2012/628389/56 "2012-11-20T21:53:18Z")
We could maybe think of doing something radical to revive interest in this league. RB/WR parity has increased over the years in fantasy football - maybe we could try a league with like 7 flex spots instead of traditional RB/WR/TE slots to maximize strategy flexibility or something like that. Something to make this unique and interesting again. ---
**Author:** ![Ol\_Gaffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Ol\_Gaffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ol_Gaffer)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2012, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-all-pro-fantasy-football-league-2012/628389/57 "2012-11-20T21:59:17Z")
Hmmmm… that’s an interesting suggestion. We should discuss it this off season but I’m all for a radical reinvention… at least insofar as it revives interest. Two QBs? IDPs? Definitely some options out there. We could do like Bill Simmons’ league where the winner gets to vote out one other player for the upcoming season! ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2012, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-all-pro-fantasy-football-league-2012/628389/58 "2012-11-20T22:04:43Z")
I will maintain my desire to be in a league where the rest of the league gets to rename the team that finished last (and you can’t change it until you win). That’s motivation. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2012, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-all-pro-fantasy-football-league-2012/628389/59 "2012-11-20T23:15:08Z")
All flex and IDP? Can you do IDP and DEF at same time? I’m not big on 2 QB. Even with just 12 people, there will be teams screwed on bye weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Frosted\_Glass](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frosted_glass/32/3926_2.png) [@Frosted\_Glass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frosted_Glass)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2012, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-all-pro-fantasy-football-league-2012/628389/60 "2012-11-20T23:52:39Z")
2 QB can be a pain once you get further into the season but I really like the idea of all Flex. I’ve always dreamed of fielding an all TE team. I also like the idea of IDP and DEF (if that’s even possible). I’m basically up for anything that isn’t multiple QBs. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-all-pro-fantasy-football-league-2012/628389.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-all-pro-fantasy-football-league-2012/628389.md?page=4)