# SDMB Baseball Hall of Fame vote #2: First Basemen

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**Created:** [July 29, 2008, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-baseball-hall-of-fame-vote-2-first-basemen/458034 "2008-07-29T02:16:19Z")\
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We’ve elected ten catchers. Now it’s time for first basemen, and this will be a terrific vote with many candidates!

The rules are the same; Please name ten first basemen (in no particular order) who you think we should name to the SDMB Baseball Hall of Fame. Active players and players ineligible for election to Cooperstown are eligible; there are no restrictions. Below I have provided a list of all Hall of Fame first basemen as well as many other first basemen who might merit consideration; **this list is provided for your convenience. It is not a restricted ballot. You can vote for players I have not mentioned if you wish.** Please note we will be having ballots for Negro League stars in another thread.

You may vote for less than ten if you wish but please vote for ten if you can. **The ten players with the most votes shall be immediately inducted into the SDMB Hall of Fame.** There is no minimum percentage of votes needed; the top ten are in.

A few notes before I post the list. A class of player I’m struggling with are multi-position players; I am not sure where to put them. I’m thinking, specifically, of players who didn’t play a majority of their games at one position (Pete Rose, Paul Molitor) and players who were mostly DHs (Edgar, Harold Baines.) Comments are welcome.

Here - again, solely for your convenience, please feel free to vote for people not on this list - is a list of top first basemen:

Lou Gehrig  
Rudy May  
Albert Pujols  
Jimmie Foxx  
Roger Connor  
Willie McCovey  
Kent Hrbek  
Roy Sievers  
Jack Clark  
Jack Fournier  
Hank Greenberg  
Harmon Killebrew  
Jim Bottomley  
Frank McCormick  
Bob Watson  
Tino Martinez  
Jason Giambi  
Jake Beckley  
Eddie Murray  
Mark McGwire  
Rod Carew  
Cecil Fielder  
Rafael Palmeiro  
Jeff Bagwell  
John Mayberry  
Don Mattingly  
Wally Joyner  
Jim Thome  
Steve Garvey  
George Kelly  
Jake Daubert  
George Sisler  
Dick Allen  
Todd Helton  
Bill Buckner  
John Olerud  
Cap Anson  
Dan Brouthers  
Johnny Mize  
Frank Thomas (The Big Hurt)  
Will Clark  
Boog Powell  
Tony Perez  
Bill Skowron  
Keith Hernandez  
Gil Hodges  
Orlando Cepeda  
Vic Power  
Frank Chance  
Norm Cash  
Mark Grace  
George Scott  
Bill Terry  
Andres Galarraga  
Chris Chambliss  
Mickey Vernon  
Mike Hargrove  
Mo Vaughn  
Fred McGriff  
Hal Chase  
Carlos Delgado  
Joe Adcock  
Dolf Camilli  
Cecil Cooper  
Bill White  
Charlie Grimm

Voting closes midnight Thursday.

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Again, in no particular order:

Lou Gehrig  
Eddie Murray  
Jimmie Foxx  
Hank Greenberg  
Frank Thomas (The Big Hurt)  
Jeff Bagwell  
Cap Anson  
George Sisler  
Rod Carew  
Harmon Killebrew

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**Lou Gehrig** : _He clearly stands at the top of this list!_  
Jimmie Foxx : _Great offensive star_  
Cap Anson \*Can’t leave Cap off this list. \*  
Hank Greenberg: _A truly great player_.  
Eddie Murray: _A great player, a great switch hitter and a very good glove. \*  
Keith Hernandez: \* a good offensive player and a great fielder._  
Bill Terry: \*A great player and from what I heard he had a very good glove. He was also apparently a team leader. His lifetime .341 BA speaks volumes. \*  
Dan Brouthers: \*I will include him as the second best 1B of the 1800s. \*  
George Sisler: \*His numbers are close to Terry, but I know less about him.\*Willie McCovey: \*The great McCovey rounds out my top 10. \*

Sorry Rod Carew, maybe at 2B. You were far more valuable at 2nd than at 1st.

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
**Lou Gehrig** : _He clearly stands at the top of this list!_  
Jimmie Foxx : _Great offensive star_  
Cap Anson \*Can’t leave Cap off this list. \*  
Hank Greenberg: _A truly great player_.  
Eddie Murray: _A great player, a great switch hitter and a very good glove. \*  
Keith Hernandez: \* a good offensive player and a great fielder._  
Bill Terry: \*A great player and from what I heard he had a very good glove. He was also apparently a team leader. His lifetime .341 BA speaks volumes. \*  
Dan Brouthers: \*I will include him as the second best 1B of the 1800s. \*  
George Sisler: \*His numbers are close to Terry, but I know less about him.\*Willie McCovey: \*The great McCovey rounds out my top 10. \*

Sorry Rod Carew, maybe at 2B. You were far more valuable at 2nd than at 1st.  
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You have one more spot on your top ten.

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Lou Gehrig  
Jimmie Foxx  
Hank Greenberg  
George Sisler  
Keith Hernandez  
Orlando Cepeda  
Frank Chance  
Bill Terry  
Harmon Killebrew  
Albert Pujols

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[QUOTE=Lamar Mundane]  
You have one more spot on your top ten.  
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That’s odd, I had \*\*Willie McCovey \*\* in the last spot. Wait, he is still there, I lost a line break. :smack:

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**Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-baseball-hall-of-fame-vote-2-first-basemen/458034/7 "2008-07-29T03:51:28Z")

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Jeff Bagwell  
Jimmy Foxx  
Lou Gehrig  
Hank Greenberg  
Keith Hernandez  
Gil Hodges  
Harmon Killebrew  
Willie McCovey  
Johnny Mize  
Frank Thomas

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**Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-baseball-hall-of-fame-vote-2-first-basemen/458034/8 "2008-07-29T05:19:04Z")

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Lou Gehrig  
Jimmie Foxx  
Roger Connor  
Willie McCovey  
Cap Anson  
Dan Brouthers  
Johnny Mize  
Hank Greenberg  
Jeff Bagwell  
Frank Thomas (The Big Hurt)

Really tough to leave Killebrew and Murray out.

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**Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-baseball-hall-of-fame-vote-2-first-basemen/458034/9 "2008-07-29T06:57:04Z")

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Lou Gehrig  
Albert Pujols  
Jimmie Foxx  
Willie McCovey  
Hank Greenberg  
Harmon Killebrew  
Rod Carew  
Jeff Bagwell  
George Sisler  
Tony Perez

Joe

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Rudy MAY?

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Now that I’m over my shock at a mediocre pitcher appearing somehow on this list, my top 10 1B men, in alphabetical order (oddly imbalanced to the first half of the alphabet):

Dick Allen  
Cap Anson  
Dan Brouthers  
Jimmie Foxx  
Lou Gehrig  
Hank Greenberg  
Gil Hodges  
Harmon Killebrew  
Johnny Mize  
George Sisler

It seems a good idea to have a “miscellaneous” category, covering multi-position players (I’d include Carew and Allen on that list, possibly Cepeda and Killebrew and others who played elsewhere than first base for parts of their careers). One of the reasons I didn’t vote for Cepeda was his years platooning with McCovey and in the OF. Personally, I’d put anyone on that list who didn’t play over 98% of his career games at a single position (including OF as one position). It would be fun, IMO, to have a large grab-bag category.

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Lou Gehrig  
Jimmie Foxx  
Willie McCovey  
Hank Greenberg  
Rod Carew  
George Sisler  
Johnny Mize  
Gil Hodges  
Frank Chance  
Bill Terry

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Hank Greenberg  
Rod Carew  
Eddie Murray  
Frank Thomas  
Jimmie Foxx  
Harmon Killebrew  
Albert Pujols  
Dick Allen  
Willie Stargell  
Jim Thome

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So little love for Frank Thomas… ☹

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Lou Gehrig  
Willie McCovey  
Hank Greenberg  
Harmon Killebrew  
Eddie Murray  
Cecil Fielder  
Don Mattingly  
George Sisler  
Frank Thomas (The Big Hurt)  
Mo Vaughn

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Hmm. Anyone mentioning Stargell ought to save him for the left-field list, when he was younger and wasn’t nagged by injuries. He was moved to first base in 1975, pretty late in his career.

Most lists have him as a top ten left fielder, but he doesn’t register as a first baseman - even though he was working first when he had his amazing Series in '79.

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[QUOTE=Gadarene]  
So little love for Frank Thomas… ☹  
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But it is an all time list and he just isn’t an all timer. I had a hard time not including Harmon Killebrew, but no matter how much I liked him and how much I love his name, he doesn’t belong and yet he was a better first baseman than Thomas or one of my favorite players like Don Mattingly or Bill ‘Moose’ Skowron.

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Gehrig  
Foxx  
McCovey  
Greenberg  
Mize  
Pujols  
Bagwell  
The Big Hurt  
Murray  
Terry  
Honorable mention: Musial, who’ll get in as an OF

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Lou Gehrig  
Willie McCovey  
Hank Greenberg  
Harmon Killebrew  
George Sisler  
Dick Allen  
Johnny Mize  
Boog Powell  
Tony Perez  
Bill Skowron  
Orlando Cepeda

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Gehrig  
Gehrig  
Gehrig  
Gehrig  
Gehrig  
Gehrig  
Gehrig  
Gehrig  
Gehrig  
Gehrig  
Gehrig  
Gehrig

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